Will they remaster the Terminator movies?

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by hskr121

As I understand it they rushed Terminator and Terminator 2 and the quality doesn't look as good as newer releases. I actually have Terminator and I'm happy with it but I've heard Judgement Day could look better and I'm hesitant to buy it. I know for The Fifth Element they remastered that on Blu-ray probably making it look better, will they remaster other movies that were "rushed" specifically Terminator 2?

These are handled by different studios. The Terminator is put out by MGM (via Fox) and Terminator 2 is from Lionsgate.

Personally, I'm waiting for the Special Edition version of T2. Like other Cameron films, the compromise for Hollwood execs version is a pale comparison to the Director's Cut.

T2, Aliens, and The Abyss are all films that only fully make sense with the Director's Cut.

[C6 Z06]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

These are handled by different studios. The Terminator is put out by MGM (via Fox) and Terminator 2 is from Lionsgate.

Personally, I'm waiting for the Special Edition version of T2. Like other Cameron films, the compromise for Hollwood execs version is a pale comparison to the Director's Cut.

T2, Aliens, and The Abyss are all films that only fully make sense with the Director's Cut.

I agree. +100

[lch]

so how does t2 extreme version dvd fare against bd version ?

[TorpedoShockwave]

I have part 1 on Blu-Ray and it looks great.

[cawgijoe]

I have both and they are definitely worth the buy. Great PQ as far as I'm concerned as well as great flics.

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by cawgijoe

I have both and they are definitely worth the buy. Great PQ as far as I'm concerned as well as great flics.

Unfortunately, T2 lacks the uber-extended directors cut that you could access by entering a code on the DVD version. Until that appears on BD, I'll hold off.

I'd also like to see at least the extras ('cause they were pretty darn good) from the original releases of each ported over, but first and foremost, just give the best sound and picture quality possible.

[Magic]

Originally Posted by C6 Z06

I agree. +100

Absolutely!

[Mouldingo]

Them Europeans have a remastered director's cut in 1080P/24 coming out soon, but in HalfDead DUD...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7A4UKRwSZZo

[Objectivity]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Personally, I'm waiting for the Special Edition version of T2. Like other Cameron films, the compromise for Hollwood execs version is a pale comparison to the Director's Cut.

T2, Aliens, and The Abyss are all films that only fully make sense with the Director's Cut.

Cameron had final cut on T2 and has said the cuts he made were to create a tighter version of the movie. The special edition adds moments back in for fans, but nothing is truly missing. IIRC, the only main edition is the surgery on the T2, the other moments are small bits that aren't needed - the second Terminator learning the dog's name isn't Wolfie, etc.

[Amel]

I am skipping many movies that have poor video quality, especially warner brothers movies, those guys need to do much more!

[caliminius]

Originally Posted by Objectivity

Cameron had final cut on T2 and has said the cuts he made were to create a tighter version of the movie. The special edition adds moments back in for fans, but nothing is truly missing. IIRC, the only main edition is the surgery on the T2, the other moments are small bits that aren't needed - the second Terminator learning the dog's name isn't Wolfie, etc.

I would say I totally disagree. I didn't much care for the original movie, but the extended edition added in a lot of really nice moments that made me absolutely love it. I especially like the scene where they open up the terminator to reprogram his CPU, which was a very important character building moment for John. The fatherly moments with John and the Termitor at the camp. Sarah's dream about Reese. The extended scenes at Dyson's house. And the ending changes actually made it make sense when there was an actual reason why Sarah could tell the 2 terminators apart.

But they could skip the part where John tries to teach the Terminator to smile, kind of funny but also a bit cringe-inducing at the same time. But it does set up the moment later on when he picks up the minigun and flashes the sh*t-eating grin.

Personally, I think Aliens is the one James Cameron movie where the theatrical version is better than the extended cut. It just seems a bit convenient that it was Newt's parents who were sent out to investigate the ship. I sort of liked getting to see the colony pre-Alien infestation, but it really didn't move the plot along. The only really necessary scenes were those that built up the mother-daughter relationships (Burke talking to Ripley about her daughter, Ripley and Newt discussing where babies come from, etc.). But the turrent guns were wasted time just to watch a counter and a couple of guns fire into darkness.

[Objectivity]

Originally Posted by caliminius

I would say I totally disagree. I didn't much care for the original movie, but the extended edition added in a lot of really nice moments that made me absolutely love it. I especially like the scene where they open up the terminator to reprogram his CPU, which was a very important character building moment for John. The fatherly moments with John and the Termitor at the camp. Sarah's dream about Reese. The extended scenes at Dyson's house. And the ending changes actually made it make sense when there was an actual reason why Sarah could tell the 2 terminators apart.

I'm not saying that the extended editions don't add a lot. I had forgotten about the Reese scene when I wrote originally. What I said was that the theatrical version is the "Director's Cut." Cameron had final cut on the film, He could have handed them a six hour reel of the worst takes with no edits for pacing and they would have had to take it.

The extended edition is just that, extended. It adds bits that were either cut because they weren't needed (T2 learning he was tricked with the dog's name) or that were removed for pacing reasons, even if they added to the character's backstory (Reese and the surgery)

I want the extended editions also, but this notion that every extended edition out there is a director's cut is ridiculous. Directors can recut their films and add material back in for the fans (and to make more money) but to imply the original wasn't thier cut - when they had final cut - is silly.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Objectivity

Cameron had final cut on T2 and has said the cuts he made were to create a tighter version of the movie. The special edition adds moments back in for fans, but nothing is truly missing. IIRC, the only main edition is the surgery on the T2, the other moments are small bits that aren't needed - the second Terminator learning the dog's name isn't Wolfie, etc.

"Are we learning yet?" - Granted it still makes sense, but not nearly as much as compared to the surgery.

Without the glitching, the sudden loss of reforming at the end doesn't make a lot of sense.

I think it is like LOTR. Whatever the Director says about the theatrical versions, such love was put into the extended cuts it's hard not to look at them like the definitive versions of the films.

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

These are handled by different studios. The Terminator is put out by MGM (via Fox) and Terminator 2 is from Lionsgate.

Actually, "Terminator" was put out by MGM (via Sony) on Blu-ray.

~Alan

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

Actually, "Terminator" was put out by MGM (via Sony) on Blu-ray.

~Alan

True. But, the thread title is about remastering. That would occur via Fox (unless MGM plays musical studios again )

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

True. But, the thread title is about remastering. That would occur via Fox (unless MGM plays musical studios again )

True!

The DTS-HD MA track could be a slight improvement, though probably not much considering the age of the film... but it would be interesting to see a remastered version use MPEG4 encoding instead of MPEG2.

I'm personally looking forward to the eventual re-release of T2 on Blu-ray though. Hopefully with MPEG4 encoding and 6.1/7.1 DTS-HD MA encoding.

~Alan

[Canada]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

These are handled by different studios. The Terminator is put out by MGM (via Fox) and Terminator 2 is from Lionsgate.

Personally, I'm waiting for the Special Edition version of T2. Like other Cameron films, the compromise for Hollwood execs version is a pale comparison to the Director's Cut.

T2, Aliens, and The Abyss are all films that only fully make sense with the Director's Cut.

I am only buying the Directors Cut of Aliens and only getting T2 if it has PCM, the Special Edition, and the alternate Special edition with the ending that leaves no room for T3.

[tron3]

Please forgive me for reviving this necro-thread, but the original question still stands. Does ANYONE know if the first movie will be remastered?

As I understand, T2 Skynet Edition is a great transfer. So is T3. But T1 only seems to get the, "It's cool." response and not, "WOW!"

I have now been waiting on this for 3 years as I adopted blu-ray summer of 2007. Do I buy T2 and T3 and wait in vain for Terminator to be remastered, or do I bite the bullet and just buy the set?

If they don't do something soon, then I will consider this entire franchise "Terminated" and wisk it to the side. That is really saying something since I am a Terminator die hard.

[DarthMarino]

Yes, the first movie has been restored through Lowry Digital and should be released later this year. Apparently, they had to wait for Cameron's approval but he was busy with Avatar.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by DarthMarino

Yes, the first movie has been restored through Lowry Digital and should be released later this year. Apparently, they had to wait for Cameron's approval but he was busy with Avatar.

In the words of Arnie, "Excellent.".