4K(2160P) Blu-ray movies

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by jpthomas27

What all of this means is that you are still getting 1080P and they are just using the 4K master as the source. Nothing more! These are in no way, shape or form 4K movies and the resolution is absolutely not 2160P.

It's all marketing so they can get people to re-buy titles they already have at a very marginal improvement in picture quality. Don't fall for it people!!

Once 4K TVs are affordable and there is a standard 4K format for home movies then these discs will be crap. In the end they are still 1080P and the only thing that a 4K player and TVs can do with them is to upconvert the picture, the same way your current blu ray players and 1080P TVs do for DVDs.

Yeah that does sound like a major scam, the more that i think about it now ! . I know now not to fall for it because its like a bad gimmick .

[Retroj23]

Oh shit, I just realized something. In a couple of years when 4K is the norm, I will again be buying my favorite films all over again. Not only that but a 4K tv and player.
Oh well. That's how it goes with this hobby.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Retroj23

Oh shit, I just realized something. In a couple of years when 4K is the norm, I will again be buying my favorite films all over again. Not only that but a 4K tv and player.
Oh well. That's how it goes with this hobby.

No, you won't. The only films that will be worth buying in 4K are 35mm films that have recently been remastered. Then if they need a restoration as well that will cost the studio additional money. I am honestly waiting until we get to 8K so that I can enjoy 65/70mm films properly.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by Retroj23

Oh shit, I just realized something. In a couple of years when 4K is the norm, I will again be buying my favorite films all over again. Not only that but a 4K tv and player.
Oh well. That's how it goes with this hobby.

Or, You could play your current 1080P BD movies in a future 4K BD Player and Ultra HDTV, that will likely work up to double the resolution of 1080P , which is what i am planning on doing when the time comes for that. I would think that any current 1080P BD movie would be able to play in any future BD Player and Ultra HDTV, in double the resolution of 1080P with a progressive scan rather then an Interlaced scan. That's considering that i can play all my old Dvds in 1080P, on my Blu-ray player and HDTV that both work up to 1080P.

[Retroj23]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

No, you won't. The only films that will be worth buying in 4K are 35mm films that have recently been remastered. Then if they need a restoration as well that will cost the studio additional money. I am honestly waiting until we get to 8K so that I can enjoy 65/70mm films properly.

That's what I was referring to. Once 8K hardware and content is available and films, especially films shot in 70MM, are made available in 8K, we would essentially have to purchase our films over again.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Or, You could play your current 1080P BD movies in a future 4K BD Player and Ultra HDTV, that will likely work up to double the resolution of 1080P , which is what i am planning on doing when the time comes for that. I would think that any current 1080P BD movie would be able to play in any future BD Player and Ultra HDTV, in double the resolution of 1080P with a progressive scan ranther then an Interlaced scan. That's considering that i can play all my old Dvds in 1080P, on my Blu-ray player and HDTV that both work up to 1080P.

Upconversion is the cheap way out. This is why I upgraded all of my DVDs that were available on BD during 2008. Upconversion hardly looks any better.

[Falaskan]

I thought we all decided a year ago that 4K wouldn't be noticeable unless you had a mega huge screen.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I thought we all decided a year ago that 4K wouldn't be noticeable unless you had a mega huge screen.

Sure, for resolution, but then again it's all about seating distance. This is why when I do get into the 4K/8K arena down the road I plan to get a projector as I already have a 96" screen that I occasionally use with my BenQ MP512ST projector. With that size screen 4K would be fully resolvable at about 7 feet.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Upconversion is the cheap way out. This is why I upgraded all of my DVDs that were available on BD during 2008. Upconversion hardly looks any better.

I wasn't talking about playing Dvds on a Dvd upconverter player and hdtv on that post to Retroj23. I was talking about playing current 1080P BD movies in a future 4K BD Player and Ultra HDTV. Which i know would work because its just like how anyone can play, their old dvds on a BD player and it will play in 1080P depending on if you have a 1080P hdtv though.

[Canada]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I guess you didn't read the first couple pages of this thread where I said all of this.

I don't read every post on a specific thread do have any idea how long that would take.

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

I wasn't talking about playing Dvds on an Dvd upconverter player and hdtv on that post to Retroj23. I was talking about playing current 1080P BD movies in a future 4K BD Player and Ultra HDTV. Which i know would work because its just like how anyone can play, their old dvds on a BD player and it will play in 1080P depending on if you have a 1080P hdtv though.

Of course it will work but those 1080p BD's will only be upscaled to 4k, nothing more.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Yeah that does sound like a major scam, the more that i think about it now ! . I know now not to fall for it because its like a bad gimmick .

It really is. Its simply companies looking for the next revenue stream since blu-ray has leveled off and prices are low enough that profit margins are razor thin. I get the whole thing - 3D was the same thing...an attempt to resell you a film. Again.

With reasonably decent gear and good blu-ray transfers, you aint getting much better video/audio quality for home. Just isnt happening. Maybe someone with a 50 foot screen that they sit 3 feet away from might benefit.

For me, blu-ray is the pinnacle of home video and Im not buying gear and movies yet again. Im done. They can try to pimp it any way they like. The phrase "diminishing returns" comes into play here.

4K = YAWN

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Canada

I don't read every post on a specific thread do have any idea how long that would take.

Then why are you here asking questions that were answered in the first part of this thread? Come on, even I'm not that lazy.

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

It really is. Its simply companies looking for the next revenue stream since blu-ray has leveled off and prices are low enough that profit margins are razor thin. I get the whole thing - 3D was the same thing...an attempt to resell you a film. Again.

With reasonably decent gear and good blu-ray transfers, you aint getting much better video/audio quality for home. Just isnt happening. Maybe someone with a 50 foot screen that they sit 3 feet away from might benefit.

For me, blu-ray is the pinnacle of home video and Im not buying gear and movies yet again. Im done. They can try to pimp it any way they like. The phrase "diminishing returns" comes into play here.

4K = YAWN

Surely its a good thing when it comes to films like Ghostbusters though where the original BD release wasn't quite as good as it could have been, this brand new 4k remaster could correct all the issues from the original BD release.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Surely its a good thing when it comes to films like Ghostbusters though where the original BD release wasn't quite as good as it could have been, this brand new 4k remaster could correct all the issues from the original BD release.

Well, anything is possible. Just don't get your hopes up lest they be dashed.

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

For me, blu-ray is the pinnacle of home video and Im not buying gear and movies yet again. Im done. They can try to pimp it any way they like. The phrase "diminishing returns" comes into play here.

4K = YAWN

I think a lot of people feel this way, as good as Blu-ray is it's still hasn't been fully embraced, and to add yet another format namely 4K I think that it will never get out of the hardcore niche market.

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

This is why when I do get into the 4K/8K arena down the road I plan to get a projector as I already have a 96" screen that I occasionally use with my BenQ MP512ST projector. With that size screen 4K would be fully resolvable at about 7 feet.

I agree, I have seen it myself and it is very noticeable if I go 4k it would most likely be a projector. Everyone is so focused on resolution, but the big thing about 4k that a lot of people miss is the increased colour space this will be immediately noticeable even on a smaller screen, say good bye to banding, the other added benefit is B&W movie will also look better.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by JoeDeM

I think a lot of people feel this way, as good as Blu-ray is it's still hasn't been fully embraced, and to add yet another format namely 4K I think that it will never get out of the hardcore niche market.



I agree, I have seen it myself and it is very noticeable if I go 4k it would most likely be a projector. Everyone is so focused on resolution, but the big thing about 4k that a lot of people miss is the increased colour space this will be immediately noticeable even on a smaller screen, say good bye to banding, the other added benefit is B&W movie will also look better.

Yeah, the increase in color saturation/replication will be the other big plus since we already have lossless audio. I certainly have no problem with seeing banding being abolished as it still seems to creep into new releases from time to time.

[bigdaddyhorse]

I can hear the future whining already. Example: "the new Star Wars set still doesn't have the original versions and looks just like my blu-rays".
Pass, but I said that about blu too and look at me now.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

I can hear the future whining already. Example: "the new Star Wars set still doesn't have the original versions and looks just like my blu-rays".
Pass, but I said that about blu too and look at me now.

The Star Wars thread has a few hundred extra pages because of that BS.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Of course it will work but those 1080p BD's will only be upscaled to 4k, nothing more.

Yes that is what i figured would be the case becuse of the fact that, Dvds can play in a BD player in 1080P with a 1080P hdtv. So its same thing with playing BDs in a future 4K BD player and future 4K ultra hdtv in 2160P(4K).