Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by tsinindy

No, he was talking about Episode I, not Episode VII, which I'm sure will be fraught with Lens Flares.

I hope not.

Do all of J.J. Abrams' films have lens flare or is just his Star Trek films?

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

I hope not.

Do all of J.J. Abrams' films have lens flare or is just his Star Trek films?

Even the first few episodes of Fringe have lens flare issues and he didn't even direct those.

[RyanPom]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

I hope not.

Do all of J.J. Abrams' films have lens flare or is just his Star Trek films?

Lost never had any lens flare, and he directed the pilot.

[kenkraly2004]

Originally Posted by Roonan

It seems to be a glow for the explosion when the laser bolt at the top of the frame hits the wall.

It's a blue streak part of the green laser bolt right before it hits the wall and therefore has been in every release of Episode 1 since it came out in 1999 and not a defect on the Blu-Ray. It's always been their. It's not a huge issue.

[AmusedToDeath]

Originally Posted by Nightman04

Yes, but that was before he sold the rights to it. Pretty sure Disney can release any version of the movie they want.

See secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html for more info about this, but basically the original negative was discovered to be in bad shape when they got it out to do the Special Editions in 1994 and all their energy (and money) went into restoration for the purpose of the SE. So there is apparently no suitable negative available of the original film from which to scan without major restoration. It's unlikely anyone including Disney will ever spend the millions required to restore the original prints.

There was some kerfuffle a few years ago when it was discovered the National Film Registry copy of the film which was purported to be the 1977 version was actually the Special Edition. Lucas apparently had a line in his contract with Fox that the original prints were to be destroyed if discovered.

So basically, the last version of the OT ever likely to be seen by the public in the future is the 2006 DVDs, which were just ports of the 1995 Laserdiscs and non-anamorphic.

[IanTheCool]

Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

See secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html for more info about this, but basically the original negative was discovered to be in bad shape when they got it out to do the Special Editions in 1994 and all their energy (and money) went into restoration for the purpose of the SE. So there is apparently no suitable negative available of the original film from which to scan without major restoration. It's unlikely anyone including Disney will ever spend the millions required to restore the original prints.

There was some kerfuffle a few years ago when it was discovered the National Film Registry copy of the film which was purported to be the 1977 version was actually the Special Edition. Lucas apparently had a line in his contract with Fox that the original prints were to be destroyed if discovered.

So basically, the last version of the OT ever likely to be seen by the public in the future is the 2006 DVDs, which were just ports of the 1995 Laserdiscs and non-anamorphic.

I dont know, if there is any film out their worth the investment of htat heavy restoration, it would be star wars, wouldnt you think?

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

See secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html for more info about this, but basically the original negative was discovered to be in bad shape when they got it out to do the Special Editions in 1994 and all their energy (and money) went into restoration for the purpose of the SE. So there is apparently no suitable negative available of the original film from which to scan without major restoration. It's unlikely anyone including Disney will ever spend the millions required to restore the original prints.

There was some kerfuffle a few years ago when it was discovered the National Film Registry copy of the film which was purported to be the 1977 version was actually the Special Edition. Lucas apparently had a line in his contract with Fox that the original prints were to be destroyed if discovered.

So basically, the last version of the OT ever likely to be seen by the public in the future is the 2006 DVDs, which were just ports of the 1995 Laserdiscs and non-anamorphic.

Pretty sad and likely to be the case. This is a pure business and I don't think Disney will see any financial reason to spend millions and millions to do a true restoration of the originals. We'll probably just be seeing the current Blu-ray encodes re-packaged and re-released for who knows how long - they probably have no incentive to even remaster those.

[stvn1974]

I also don't think Disney will spend any money restoring the OOT. Why would they bother when people eat up the Special Edition versions by the millions? I would love the OOT but at this point it is just wishful thinking and I need to just get over it. I will never own or even watch what is out there now for Star Wars and haven't even bought any Star Wars related merchandise since the first Star Wars DVD release and won't until the OOT is restored and released. Again I need to just get over it...but I can't

[Rambaldi47]

Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

There was some kerfuffle a few years ago when it was discovered the National Film Registry copy of the film which was purported to be the 1977 version was actually the Special Edition. Lucas apparently had a line in his contract with Fox that the original prints were to be destroyed if discovered.

So basically, the last version of the OT ever likely to be seen by the public in the future is the 2006 DVDs, which were just ports of the 1995 Laserdiscs and non-anamorphic.

I'm not one of the "OOT or nothing at all" people, but that sounds like a huge crime against history. The original Star Wars is iconic and should be preserved. The 1996 SE is not the version of the film that made history and influenced decades of films. Whether or not it's restored and released on blu-ray isn't even the big issue. That would be like adding CGI to the Wizard of Oz and destroying every original copy of it so only the new version exists. I can't believe GL would order every copy of the original to be destroyed. Sounds alot like Palpatine!

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by Rambaldi47

I'm not one of the "OOT or nothing at all" people, but that sounds like a huge crime against history. The original Star Wars is iconic and should be preserved. The 1996 SE is not the version of the film that made history and influenced decades of films. Whether or not it's restored and released on blu-ray isn't even the big issue. That would be like adding CGI to the Wizard of Oz and destroying every original copy of it so only the new version exists. I can't believe GL would order every copy of the original to be destroyed. Sounds alot like Palpatine!

He's probably got back up copies stored somewhere in one of his personal vaults. I highly doubt that he destroyed every copy. Lucas loves money and he knows that people would pay good money to own the Theatrical Cuts in HD.

I don't know about The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi but a high quality print of the Theatrical Cut Of A New Hope was screened a few years back and it was in really good condition.

[42041]

The thing about having the original prints being destroyed sounds like pretty dubious hearsay to me.
Though either way, any regular Eastman prints from 1977 would be faded to a nice shade of pink by now anyway. I don't know how many dye transfer prints were struck by Technicolor UK, but there's still a few in existence.

Anyhow, I don't think there's anything to suggest the original film is in any immediate danger except alarmist internet silliness, the camera negatives still exist for everything except the Jabba scene (good riddance), original prints exist, color separations exist, it's just a matter of someone putting the money into cobbling it together.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Lucas loves money and he knows that people would pay good money to own the Theatrical Cuts in HD.

He loves money so much he's giving away BILLIONS.

I wish people would stop with this nonsense.

[agentalbert]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I also don't think Disney will spend any money restoring the OOT. Why would they bother when people eat up the Special Edition versions by the millions? I would love the OOT but at this point it is just wishful thinking and I need to just get over it. I will never own or even watch what is out there now for Star Wars and haven't even bought any Star Wars related merchandise since the first Star Wars DVD release and won't until the OOT is restored and released. Again I need to just get over it...but I can't

I'm with you. I bought the Star Wars SE dvd's, but am glad I've resisted since. Every now and then there is some price drop on the blu-ray's and I think about it, but I'm not buying them. I'd just be disappointed after one viewing. Other than a few parts (Greedo shooting first, Hayden in ROTJ), I don't hate them, and like some of the extra effects. I'd like a set that has both. But I'm just not buying any more Star Wars until they're released right.

[hewylewis]

I see that the star wars movies are being rereleased to blu ray. So, does this mean we'll get the unaltered versions at last or are these versions without special features?

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by hewylewis

I see that the star wars movies are being rereleased to blu ray. So, does this mean we'll get the unaltered versions at last or are these versions without special features?

What? You actually expected this to be the original unaltered versions?

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[hewylewis]

Well, why else would Fox re-release the movies?

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by hewylewis

Well, why else would Fox re-release the movies?

Obvious: to capitalize on the recent resurgence of SW-related news, and change up the artwork (like they always do), meanwhile adding DVDs to make the set more enticing to the average savvy shopper. It has nothing to do with unaltered cuts.

[Scorpion Soldier]

Originally Posted by hewylewis

Well, why else would Fox re-release the movies?

$$

[DrunkenPumpkin]

Originally Posted by hewylewis

Well, why else would Fox re-release the movies?

It is called a cash in.
They are riding the hype for Episode VII and beyond, keeping it fresh and also making it more affordable.
It is also mainly just to release the trilogies in separate bundles with dvds included.
You can rest assured, that if the day comes that they will release the original cuts there will be fanfare from on high and it will be trumpeted at Celebration, ComiCon and D23 Expo.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by hewylewis

Well, why else would Fox re-release the movies?

Why does any studio re-release movies?