True or False ? ? ? - Blu-ray Forum

glenn-bob · 10-15-2007, 01:56 PM

I've know this subject has been covered but I can't seem to find a difinitive yes or no on the subjust so I will ask outright . . . True or False ...when playing a blu-ray DVD my PS3 can display [edit] 1080i [edit] thru component outputs.

mike79 · 10-15-2007, 01:59 PM

It can, but it depends on whether or not your tv can accept 1080p through component. I know my tv can not, and most don't.

glenn-bob · 10-15-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mike79

It can, but it depends on whether or not your tv can accept 1080p through component. I know my tv can not, and most don't.

My TV must accept it because it's new enough that it is a 1080p TV but old enough that it doesn't have an HDMI cable input.

fattyslimslim · 10-15-2007, 02:18 PM

Not necessarily...it may only accept 1080p via DVI. Make/model number of your tv?

glenn-bob · 10-15-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fattyslimslim

Not necessarily...it may only accept 1080p via DVI. Make/model number of your tv?

it's a Hitachi 53" widescreen rear projection, that's about all i can tell you at the moment. info is at home.

Frode · 10-15-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenn-bob

I've know this subject has been covered but I can't seem to find a difinitive yes or no on the subjust so I will ask outright . . . True or False ...when playing a blu-ray DVD my PS3 can display 1080p thru component outputs.

False. All Blu-ray players are restricted to 1080i using analog outputs. If you want 1080p you'll need to use HDMI. The PS3 can output 1080p over component for games and the XMB however.

jdsanko · 10-15-2007, 03:07 PM

Not really that big a deal. On a 53" screen the differncence between 720p, 1080i or 1080p is not that big a deal. They will all look great with the actual quality of the encode (Blu-ray) or broadcast trasmission compression (HDTV) being the critical factor.

glenn-bob · 10-15-2007, 04:34 PM

thanks for the info folks. I was just curious because I was watching "300" (my first Blu-ray movie) the other day and it failed to impress me. I thought it would blow me away but I gotta say that watching CSI from my cable box looked better to me. I'm getting a new LCD soon anyway but just wanted to know if I should buy more movies or wait til i get the new TV.

pedigree · 10-15-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenn-bob

I've know this subject has been covered but I can't seem to find a difinitive yes or no on the subjust so I will ask outright . . . True or False ...when playing a blu-ray DVD my PS3 can display 1080p thru component outputs.

false go to monoprice.com and buy a generic hdmi which are amazing

CptGreedle · 10-15-2007, 04:41 PM

Well if your tv has no HDMI, you are stuck with 1080i a the best for films. 1080p is a lot more demanding but many will not notice the difference. A single frame from a show will look identical, and for that matter, a lot of things will look the same. All HD tv channels are in 1080i (at the greatest) and the main 2 things you will notice that 1080i has that 1080p does not would be... motion interlacing (where a moving object separates into interlacing lines rather than smooth transition from frame to frame) and "moire" pattern effects on clothes and such (where a small pattern such as strips on a suit or a decorative blouse can cause a strange effect on the screen that stands out from everything else, it is unsightly and most distracting for me). These are only seen in movement and most people ignore or just can't see the difference.

BTBuck1 · 10-15-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn-bob

it's a Hitachi 53" widescreen rear projection, that's about all i can tell you at the moment. info is at home.

Sounds like a 1080i CRT

glenn-bob · 10-15-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BTBuck1

Sounds like a 1080i CRT

ya I screwed up in the original post...it should read 1080i not 1080p.

Pilam69 · 10-15-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn-bob

thanks for the info folks. I was just curious because I was watching "300" (my first Blu-ray movie) the other day and it failed to impress me. I thought it would blow me away but I gotta say that watching CSI from my cable box looked better to me. I'm getting a new LCD soon anyway but just wanted to know if I should buy more movies or wait til i get the new TV.

There was a lot of controversy about the movie when it came out. Because of all the grain that was, intentionally, left in the movie transfer it didn't look HD enough for some people. If you want to see if it is really the PQ that is the problem put a disc like POTC in, it is generally accepted as one of the best transfers to date.

BStecke · 10-15-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenn-bob

thanks for the info folks. I was just curious because I was watching "300" (my first Blu-ray movie) the other day and it failed to impress me. I thought it would blow me away but I gotta say that watching CSI from my cable box looked better to me. I'm getting a new LCD soon anyway but just wanted to know if I should buy more movies or wait til i get the new TV.

There's a thread around here with screen caps comparing the DVD and Blu-ray version of 300. There's a drastic improvement. The grain does not detract from the detail.

Frode · 10-15-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

There's a thread around here with screen caps comparing the DVD and Blu-ray version of 300. There's a drastic improvement. The grain does not detract from the detail.

You mean the one where they compared the Spanish SD DVD to HD downscaled to SD so you could see how bad the DVD really was?

glenn-bob · 10-15-2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilam69

If you want to see if it is really the PQ that is the problem put a disc like POTC in, it is generally accepted as one of the best transfers to date.

thanks, i will do that.

davidPS3 · 10-15-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frode

False. All Blu-ray players are restricted to 1080i using analog outputs. If you want 1080p you'll need to use HDMI. The PS3 can output 1080p over component for games and the XMB however.

I agree. I had to buy a new TV with HDMI Imputes, well worth it though if you want the best possible picture!

glenn-bob · 10-25-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frode

False. All Blu-ray players are restricted to 1080i using analog outputs. If you want 1080p you'll need to use HDMI. The PS3 can output 1080p over component for games and the XMB however.

I confirmed this last night. Bought me a 52" Sony XBR and I am getting 1080i through components but not the 1080p that "The Reaping" says it has. Thanks again for the info fellas.

ryoohki · 10-25-2007, 03:32 PM

300 on DVD is BAD... Grain is Macroblock .... with is there most of the movie.. LOL!

i saw 300 at IMAX.... i had my shovel with me..

Personnally i don't mind the fake grain to 'hide' CGI... otherwise it might as look as crappy as King Kong on HD DVD (Superb PQ, but laughfable and WORST CGI effect + HUMAN EVER!)

glenn22 · 10-25-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn-bob

I confirmed this last night. Bought me a 52" Sony XBR and I am getting 1080i through components but not the 1080p that "The Reaping" says it has. Thanks again for the info fellas.

Not another Glenn! There can be only 1, we must fight to the death.... just kidding, and yeah I hope you enjoy your new TV, HDMI is where it's at.

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10-15-2007, 01:59 PM	#2
mike79 Power Member Member since:May 2007 Location:NYC Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	It can, but it depends on whether or not your tv can accept 1080p through component. I know my tv can not, and most don't.

10-15-2007, 02:18 PM	#4
fattyslimslim Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Little Frisco, WI Blu-ray collection:181 Trading Score:2	Not necessarily...it may only accept 1080p via DVI. Make/model number of your tv?

10-15-2007, 03:07 PM	#7
jdsanko Member Member since:Jun 2007	Not really that big a deal. On a 53" screen the differncence between 720p, 1080i or 1080p is not that big a deal. They will all look great with the actual quality of the encode (Blu-ray) or broadcast trasmission compression (HDTV) being the critical factor.

10-15-2007, 04:34 PM	#8
glenn-bob Power Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Dartmouth, NS, Canada Blu-ray collection:165	thanks for the info folks. I was just curious because I was watching "300" (my first Blu-ray movie) the other day and it failed to impress me. I thought it would blow me away but I gotta say that watching CSI from my cable box looked better to me. I'm getting a new LCD soon anyway but just wanted to know if I should buy more movies or wait til i get the new TV.

10-15-2007, 04:41 PM	#10
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Well if your tv has no HDMI, you are stuck with 1080i a the best for films. 1080p is a lot more demanding but many will not notice the difference. A single frame from a show will look identical, and for that matter, a lot of things will look the same. All HD tv channels are in 1080i (at the greatest) and the main 2 things you will notice that 1080i has that 1080p does not would be... motion interlacing (where a moving object separates into interlacing lines rather than smooth transition from frame to frame) and "moire" pattern effects on clothes and such (where a small pattern such as strips on a suit or a decorative blouse can cause a strange effect on the screen that stands out from everything else, it is unsightly and most distracting for me). These are only seen in movement and most people ignore or just can't see the difference.

10-25-2007, 03:32 PM	#19
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	300 on DVD is BAD... Grain is Macroblock .... with is there most of the movie.. LOL! i saw 300 at IMAX.... i had my shovel with me.. Personnally i don't mind the fake grain to 'hide' CGI... otherwise it might as look as crappy as King Kong on HD DVD (Superb PQ, but laughfable and WORST CGI effect + HUMAN EVER!)

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