Early Blu-rays that may have playback issues (Criterion, Well Go USA, etc.)

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Namuhana

I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I have 8 1/2, M, and The Seventh Seal, but I can't seem to find the suspect IFPI codes.

The codes for the copies I have are:

8 1/2: L324
M: L324
The Seventh Seal: L323

And, I'm also colorblind, so I can't quite tell whether or not the discs are bronzing. Can anyone let me know if these are the bad codes?

Yours should be okay. The affected codes are in this post:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1349

[Namuhana]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

Yours should be okay. The affected codes are in this post:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1349

Awesome! Thank you!

[PowellPressburger]

Originally Posted by Deep

Anyone still waiting for the replacement discs ? I have not received my Summer Hours replacement yet.

-D

I haven't rec'd my discs and I mailed all mine out the next day when the info was given for the replacement program. I did all discs except Summer Hours.

[bokes]

Finally received my replacement Paris Texas disc today.
The disc arrived unprotected in a cardboard sleeve.
No Padding. No wrapping. Not even a thin tissue of protection.
A $40 disc- (that rottted out) and they treat the replacement as if it's a cheap promo disc in a cheap mailer. !?!
Must say- I'm somewhat disappointed with Criterion.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by bokes

Finally received my replacement Paris Texas disc today.
The disc arrived unprotected in a cardboard sleeve.
No Padding. No wrapping. Not even a thin tissue of protection.
A $40 disc- (that rottted out) and they treat the replacement as if it's a cheap promo disc in a cheap mailer. !?!
Must say- I'm somewhat disappointed with Criterion.

Not even a paper sleeve before they put it inside the cardboard mailer?

[Brian81]

Eh, not a big deal, and I'm a very picky person. Those cardboard mailers Criterion sends replacement discs in are very stiff. I wouldn't be concerned.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by mpm74

Well Go USA’s Defective Disc Replacement Program launches today.

CLICK HERE for the full details/press release, along with revised titles, and instructions on how you can replace your defective discs.

Wow, they have an exchange program for Canadians, unlike Criterion.

Also, they were proactive in identifying additional titles.

[jw007]

Originally Posted by wormraper

welcome to my world. I emailed several times and have gotten jack crap for a response.

I remember back in the old days when I emailed Jon Mulvaney and he responded within 24-48 hours or so. I still have the emails to prove it. Wow, was another time back then. Perhaps it will never come again and soon they will have to make Jon Mulvaney cloned androids to handle all the email in the future. The real Mr. Mulvaney will be relaxing on an island while his clones respond to us in a very robotic sort of way.

I consider myself lucky to have experienced a real Jon Mulvaney email response.

[riderontherain]

For those who have asked about the IFPI codes on the replacement discs, here are three:

Paris, Texas: L322
Howard's End: L324
Walkabout: L324

For some reason, criterion sent me double replacements for the discs I sent them.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by mpm74

Well Go USA’s Defective Disc Replacement Program launches today.

CLICK HERE for the full details/press release, along with revised titles, and instructions on how you can replace your defective discs.

bravo Well Go... I'm impressed.

[Freeza]

Originally Posted by mpm74

Well Go USA’s Defective Disc Replacement Program launches today.

CLICK HERE for the full details/press release, along with revised titles, and instructions on how you can replace your defective discs.

They've also now added it to their website.

http://www.wellgousa.com/sites/defau...0-%20FINAL.pdf

[Illy Scorsese]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

Yes, as jayembee and many others have noted, bronzing is only one possible indicator of a bad disc. Some discs look fine but don't play at all. Some discs have bronzing but can still play. Either way, these discs are all suspect and should be replaced, period. Why wait? Who's to say that Criterion will keep going back to the factories to press more discs, especially the OOP ones?

So you can replace your discs even if they haven't bronzed/gone bad yet???

Just as long as they have the matching IFPI's?

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Illy Scorsese

So you can replace your discs even if they haven't bronzed/gone bad yet???

Just as long as they have the matching IFPI's?

Criterion will either get reimbursed through business insurance or write off these replacements as a business loss. You might as well get replacements now while you can.

[Illy Scorsese]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

Criterion will either get reimbursed through business insurance or write off these replacements as a business loss. You might as well get replacements now while you can.

But has anyone actually done it yet?(sent discs that haven't gone bad yet and still gotten replacements)

[PowellPressburger]

I got all my discs delivered today. :-) they come in a sturdy envelope and each disc inside smaller sleeves. My discs were mint looked like they were just unwrapped.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Illy Scorsese

So you can replace your discs even if they haven't bronzed/gone bad yet???

Just as long as they have the matching IFPI's?

That's not surprising. If they look at the discs and don't see bronzing, they'd have to try playing them or scanning the disc data. That takes time, and with a small staff, it wouldn't be worth the trouble. They probably figure if the discs you send them are from the Bad List they may go bad eventually, so it's replace them now or replace them later.

[Roy Batty]

You can add LOLA MONTES to the list on the opening post.

I've got at least 10 Criterion titles affected by this, and I'm still checking them all out...

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

You can add LOLA MONTES to the list on the opening post.

I've got at least 10 Criterion titles affected by this, and I'm still checking them all out...

Is it actually bronzing (changing color), or does it simply not play?

[Roy Batty]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

Is it actually bronzing (changing color), or does it simply not play?

Bronzing on my copy of LOLA MONTES is slight, I guess, when compared to some other discs in my Criterion collection (8 1/2 would be the absolute worst, followed closely by PARIS TEXAS), but it's still noticeable, more so on the outer rim.

(edit: scratch that, my copy of WALKABOUT is the ABSOLUTE worst)

And it doesn't play beyond the 50-something min. mark or around.

Oh! And since we are at it, same goes for my copy of REPULSION, although "tanning" is more advanced here.

And my KAGEMUSHA hardly shows any bronzing, but second half doesn't play either.

P.s. Do we have any solid info on the replacement copies for PIERROT LE FOU? Because I was under the impression that it went out of print when Criterion's rights expired. Am I wrong?

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

Bronzing on my copy of LOLA MONTES is slight, I guess, when compared to some other discs in my Criterion collection (8 1/2 would be the absolute worst), but it's still noticeable, more so on the outer rim.

And it doesn't play beyond the 50-something min. mark or around.

Thank you. Please post pictures if you can.

Guys, it's clear that this problem will persist for years. We're still discovering new problematic discs, and I would not be surprised if all of the titles in the suspect date range end up with bronzed discs.