Fright Night (1985) (30th Anniversary Edition) (Limited Edition) - SOLD OUT

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by KrugStillo

The brightness could very well be a result of the encoding. It's seems to be more of a gamma shift. This happens sometimes when one file is converted to another. They could have copied the master file and sent the copy out. The gamma shift could be only present in the copy. This is all just speculation of course but I know from personal experience that some of the Quicktime formats that are used as master files can in fact cause a gamma shift. This is all techie stuff but it's true. For example if a specific facility required a certain file format (and they usually do). The conversion to that format may have caused the gamma shift. Encoding and duplication houses usually require (if you are sending in a hard drive with a file) Quicktime Uncompressed YUV 10 bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 (there is even a 1:1 option that I think can be used as well). I noticed when making the master for my film that the Quicktime format actually increased the gamma slightly and it looked worse (bringing out macroblocking and color shifts). This is most likely what happened if they are using the same master. The encoder would then have to compensate for that shift but if they weren't informed or just didn't care well there you have it.

If it's from an accidental gamma shift, can it be corrected by adjusting the gamma settings on your TV?

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by brasil

Really? My phone bill and Nigerian fraud is a valid point regarding TT's encoding error?

Someday you'll have to explain that to me.

P.S. please don't get a job in the TT encoding dept.

If you're going to pretend you don't know what a comparison is, I'm afraid there's no point in having a discussion. I've been attempting to have a civilized conversation, but I don't see how that's possible with that type of behavior.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

TT wouldn't replace that stuff, that would be whoever you ordered it from. I was given a free replacement of a disc that I had that was defective for no charge from SAE. The case thing I can't vouch for, but I was given a replacement for a disc that looked like it had an manufacturing error.

As far as the case(s) is concern, you can buy blu-ray replacement cases from any local electronic, or department store.

[KrugStillo]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

If it's from an accidental gamma shift, can it be corrected by adjusting the gamma settings on your TV?

You could try. It depends on how incremental the gamma adjustment is on your set. Try knocking it down a notch. It may actually fix the problem. Although a notch on the set could be more than needed but you'll never know unless you try it. it wouldn't be a cure all but could mask it a bit.

[Blu Titan]

So it looks like the original release is the one to have . And, please debate without insults or semi aggressive postings. Its not the end of the world .

[2themax]

Looks like I need to step in again...

1.) Am I an insider? You better believe. I'd bet money you own a disc that I've worked on.
2.) Is the encoder defective? I'd rather stick with my original answer of inferior.
3.) Will TT be using the same facility for future releases? 99% chance they will be.
4.) Will the inferior encoder be used on future releases? 100% chance of it unless the 1% chance from question 3 happens.

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

So you are aware that just because someone says they're an insider and know that a defective encode was used doesn't make it a fact.

Yes it does

[KrugStillo]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

If it's from an accidental gamma shift, can it be corrected by adjusting the gamma settings on your TV?

I tried it on my Breaking Away disc and noticed an improvement. I wouldn't call it a complete fix but it was a much nicer image.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

So it looks like the original release is the one to have

Disagreed, but it's certainly no slouch.

[cropsy]

Honestly i don't care what flack i get from the 1st world problem posters on here but for gods sake this forum can suck the fun out of everything at times.

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by cropsy

Honestly i don't care what flack i get from the 1st world problem posters on here but for gods sake this forum can suck the fun out of everything at times.

Well, I thought my last post was kinda fun

[StingingVelvet]

I think that Conan guy was a jerk and I also think the TT rep was unprofessional and petty. No one looks good in that conversation, not sure why people are taking sides.

[cropsy]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

Well, I thought my last post was kinda fun

I'm not targeting individuals mate its just us film collectors have never had it so good and while its a very good thing that some stay on top of things to keep the companies in some sort of check, it goes too far. I don't even believe half the people who say they can see defects, i believe they are just trying to posistion themselves as having a keener eye than others, it bogs down 80% of the threads in this place.

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by 2themax

Looks like I need to step in again...

1.) Am I an insider? You better believe. I'd bet money you own a disc that I've worked on.
2.) Is the encoder defective? I'd rather stick with my original answer of inferior.
3.) Will TT be using the same facility for future releases? 99% chance they will be.
4.) Will the inferior encoder be used on future releases? 100% chance of it unless the 1% chance from question 3 happens.


Yes it does

Please reach out to TT and encourage them to use a different encoder so these forums can be a much happier place.

[proglodite]

I checked out the problem spots on my 50" plasma and could just BARELY notice that there MIGHT be an issue. Anyone complaining about this can easily sell their copy for the money they've invested and be back at square one. If they're still unhappy, then they need to man-up and start their own Blu-Ray production company.

Peter

[cropsy]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I think that Conan guy was a jerk and I also think the TT rep was unprofessional and petty. No one looks good in that conversation, not sure why people are taking sides.

Its an internet forum and unfotunatly thats what happens, i was once rounded upon on here for trying to stop numerous posters bulling another poster for nothing.

[BrandonJF]

I'm probably going to regret this, but I took some pics of my monitor with my camera since there is no way I'm going to waste anymore time trying to get real captures (since it doesn't look like there is a free solution anyway).

I know these look like crap, so I'm sure there will be the "let's not base this on poor pics taken by a camera" argument. I do think they give an ok indication of what we're talking about, though. Hopefully someone with the proper software can take real captures at some point.

This is a frame where quite a bit of the image turns into a mess. This isn't a camera blur. Those stairs actually turn into a blobby mess as well as part of Sarandon's arm. It's not a far cry from what went on with "The Matrix Revolutions", but that was one frame out of the entire movie. There's more than that here.



To compare using the same crappy camera images, this is the same frame from the previous TT release:



During the clock pan, this is where things get messy (it would be way more clear with a real capture):



And this is what it looks like a frame later after it looks normal again:



That happens a couple of times during the pan.

Again, the examples given do not mean that is the only time these issues pop up. Some are less noticeable than others.

Is it the end of the world if this is the only release one owns? No. Is there an encoding issue? yeah, there is.

[Hellraiserfan]

I don't see what everyone else is seeing with this 30th anniversary release. It looks great as far as I'm concerned. Typed too soon, pics right above my post. I can see how that would annoy some but to me it's not a huge deal. Now if the actor all of a sudden became blurry and lost detail then I would be pissed.

[deathcab6366]

Originally Posted by proglodite

I checked out the problem spots on my 50" plasma and could just BARELY notice that there MIGHT be an issue. Anyone complaining about this can easily sell their copy for the money they've invested and be back at square one. If they're still unhappy, then they need to man-up and start their own Blu-Ray production company.

Peter

Couldn't agree more!!!!!

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by brasil

Comparing my statement that their is an encoder error to my phone bill and Nigerian fraud is "valid comparison" that I'm "pretending" not to know about which prevents you having a "civilized conversation"?

Thank you

The moderators have already asked for no more aggressive posts. You can choose to pretend not to understand my comparisons, but I will no longer engage in a childish discussion.

[StingingVelvet]

I don't think those pics help, it makes it look like an even more super brief and super minor issues than I already thought it was.