Sony Black Crush on late-2014 / early-2015 BDs

[dvdmike]

I tweeted David Ayer about it all

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by revgen

Both the Polish and Taiwanese blurays are distributed by companies other than Sony. The Polish bluray is distributed by a company called Monolith. The Taiwanese blu-ray is published by Taisheng Multimedia.

Folks over at the Fury UK bluray thread are saying that the UK bluray exhibits the same black levels issues as the US disc. Sony distributes the film in both countries.

I wouldn't give up on the chances of a corrected US disc yet. I'd recommend keeping these foreign discs as a last resort, if we somehow fail to get Sony to address this.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

Usually forced subs are not burned-in. In that case you can remux and leave the subs out (be glad to help you with that via PM if interested).

If I end up purchasing the Polish disc I will do that. Does that disc have English audio at all though?

[bruceames]

Does anyone know approx how far into the movie the tank shot is? (as shown in the capsaholic caps)

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...mage=0#auswahl

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I tweeted David Ayer about it all

Also, please ask him about that abrupt change between Fury driving through the arty and arriving back at base.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

If I end up purchasing the Polish disc I will do that. Does that disc have English audio at all though?

Would be shocking if it didn't. Very rare for a movie, especially a major U.S. production, not to have the original language audio track.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

Does anyone know approx how far into the movie the tank shot is? (as shown in the capsaholic caps)

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...mage=0#auswahl

I just checked on VUDU and it's 3 minutes and 7 seconds.

[metallic]

Are the Interview and MBFW both branded as Mi4K discs?

I know Fury is but it would be interesting if the three problomatic discs are all Mi4K, and as Whiplash isn't might explain why it does not suffer from the same issue.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by metallic

Are the Interview and MBFW both branded as Mi4K discs?

I know Fury is but it would be interesting if the three problomatic discs are all Mi4K, and as Whiplash isn't might explain why it does not suffer from the same issue.

MBFW definitely is, big banner across the back cover. I'll have to double check THE INTERVIEW tonight at home to confirm. That might be the common thread!

[Fangmacher]

The Interview doesn't have the Mastered In 4K banner on the back.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Fangmacher

The Interview doesn't have the Mastered In 4K banner on the back.

According to IMDB the DI is indeed 2K. That's strange for Sony.

[Liquid_Swords]

Wow that sucks, I remember Hostel 1 or 2 having this issue. Maybe both.

[cirik]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

Someone in the main Fury thread said that you have to pick either forced Polish audio or forced Polish subtitles.

I don't think it's true in regard to Fury disc.

http://poral.eu/fury.php

As you can see there are screencaps of menu, and there is possibility to select polish subtitles as off (wyłączone) or on (włączone).
And of course there is English DTS-HD MA 5.1 track. Unfortunately no extras.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Looks like the TW disc is brighter as well: http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...less=1#auswahl

Brighter one here looks too bright to me.

I definitely think The Interview has black crush but I'm not sold on Fury having the same problem. I think it's just a dark movie.

[amoergosum]

By the way, guys...the valid technical term is "crushed blacks".

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Brighter one here looks too bright to me.

I definitely think The Interview has black crush but I'm not sold on Fury having the same problem. I think it's just a dark movie.

But it's not too bright, really. In the brighter shot, the dark area running through the center of the image is still just as dark in both versions. But you see far more detail in the shadows in the lighter one. That strongly suggests black crush. The lighter shot still displays deep blacks in some areas. Not every instance of black is supposed to be pitch black.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by mar3o

not every instance of black is supposed to be pitch black.

+1

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by mar3o

But it's not too bright, really. In the brighter shot, the dark area running through the center of the image is still just as dark in both versions. But you see far more detail in the shadows in the lighter one. That strongly suggests black crush. The lighter shot still displays deep blacks in some areas. Not every instance of black is supposed to be pitch black.

Ignore detail though, not all detail in dark areas is supposed to be seen. The brighter image in the comparison shots often looks way too blown out and bright to me, like cranking up the brightness on my TV to the point black bars look grey.

That's my opinion, anyway.

[keldons]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

According to IMDB the DI is indeed 2K. That's strange for Sony.

The Interview was shot on the Alexa, which shoots at 2.8k. same with Whiplash. Fury was shot on 35mm.

Again, I can't speak for the Interview, but all evidence I've been able to find from people who actually worked on Fury suggests that it looks as intended. Hunches from forum users and caps from a Polish BD that Ayer most likely had no oversight over whatsoever =/= proof of defect. Interested to see if he responds to whoever tweeted at him. I'll return on occasion to see a follow up for that but you guys don't really have much of a case here re: Fury besides personal preference, which is fine, but it doesn't mean Sony needs to correct the disc.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by keldons

The Interview was shot on the Alexa, which shoots at 2.8k. same with Whiplash. Fury was shot on 35mm.

Again, I can't speak for the Interview, but all evidence I've been able to find from people who actually worked on Fury suggests that it looks as intended. Hunches from forum users and caps from a Polish BD that Ayer most likely had no oversight over whatsoever =/= proof of defect. Interested to see if he responds to whoever tweeted at him. I'll return on occasion to see a follow up for that but you guys don't really have much of a case here re: Fury besides personal preference, which is fine, but it doesn't mean Sony needs to correct the disc.

If that's the case, it should look uniform across all platforms: BD, DVD, and Digital Copies. However, it doesn't.