Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by Gizz

I would love to see Grant, Satler and Malcom but it won't happen.

I think Alan and Ian are possibilities but I doubt they'll bring back Ellie Sattler. I don't think a lot of people tend to think of her as fondly as the other characters from Jurassic Park.

[dgoswald]

With JW I feel they crossed over into almost unfeasible sci-fi / fantasy, whereas with JP there was an element of grounded reality, albeit a tad heightened. The training of raptors (their headsets etc), hybrid dinos that are closer to mythical monsters than actual creatures that existed, and a few other flourishes are a far cry from the original "nature run amok" theme. I'm aware the original also bridged a few gaps with the sex-changing frog DNA, but that was the limit of stretching credibility. JW felt like an alternate earth at times.

Not sure how I feel about it tbh; in more considered hands JW could've worked incredibly well (yes, billions of dollars aside).

[tiger_qc]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

I think Alan and Ian are possibilities but I doubt they'll bring back Ellie Sattler. I don't think a lot of people tend to think of her as fondly as the other characters from Jurassic Park.

Why would you think that, she saved the day in JP and JP III.

[tiger_qc]

Originally Posted by dgoswald

Not sure how I feel about it tbh; in more considered hands JW could've worked incredibly well (yes, billions of dollars aside).

Well, it's the fourth biggest box office entry ever behind Avatar, Titanic and SW ep. VII so it did work incredibly well, I didn't see that coming, I didn't even expect it to make to the top ten.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by tiger_qc

Why would you think that, she saved the day in JP and JP III.

I think it's because she had a vagina.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by tiger_qc

Why would you think that, she saved the day in JP and JP III.

Because she's not as well characterised as Alan Grant and Ian Malcolm.

[Just Jimmy]

Originally Posted by tiger_qc

Well, it's the fourth biggest box office entry ever behind Avatar, Titanic and SW ep. VII so it did work incredibly well, I didn't see that coming, I didn't even expect it to make to the top ten.

sure it did incredibly well, but how good was it actually?

[dgoswald]

Originally Posted by tiger_qc

Well, it's the fourth biggest box office entry ever behind Avatar, Titanic and SW ep. VII so it did work incredibly well, I didn't see that coming, I didn't even expect it to make to the top ten.

Yep, that's why I said, "billions of dollars aside." JW was the first film of its kind where I felt the BO haul was... disproportionate to the quality of the film. Lots of people hate Avatar, for various reasons I won't go into here, but I can completely understand how and why it managed to make all that dough. Same with SWTFA and Titanic. JW? I'm still trying to uncover what it was I may have missed.

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

Because she's not as well characterised as Alan Grant and Ian Malcolm.

Not saying you're wrong, but how wasn't she characterised as well as the other two? I may learn something.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by dgoswald

Not saying you're wrong, but how wasn't she characterised as well as the other two? I may learn something.

She just didn't seem to have much to her personality to me despite being a strong independent woman: no character flaws to speak of or personality quirks.

Strong, independent women in TV and film are great but they need to have a personality beyond that.

[dgoswald]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

She just didn't seem to have much to her personality to me despite being a strong independent woman: no character flaws to speak of or personality quirks.

Strong, independent women in TV and film are great but they need to have a personality beyond that.

True. There was very little, if none at all, growth on her part. I still think she's a very likeable character, perhaps due to the character's passion for her work and her laid-back attitude. She wasn't annoying or "spunky", but just normal I guess. To be fair to her, Alan Grant was the only one in JP1 who underwent any sort of serious character development with the whole learning to be around kids and bringing that protective fatherly instinct to the fore.

[tiger_qc]

Originally Posted by Just Jimmy

sure it did incredibly well, but how good was it actually?

Was it good? No
Was it entertaining? Yes

Originally Posted by dgoswald

Yep, that's why I said, "billions of dollars aside." JW was the first film of its kind where I felt the BO haul was... disproportionate to the quality of the film. Lots of people hate Avatar, for various reasons I won't go into here, but I can completely understand how and why it managed to make all that dough. Same with SWTFA and Titanic. JW? I'm still trying to uncover what it was I may have missed.

Lots of people hate Avatar for ONE reason and I fall in that category, I'm not going to watch the sequel.
I hate Titanic because it's lame.
I haven't watched SWTFA yet because I was so disapointed of the prequel trilogy and don't have high expectations for this movie and I don't go to theater much unless I'm very excited about a movie.
JW wasn't very good but at least it was entertaining.

Nowadays a movie is a success based on box office score only, it's sad but true.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Gizz

I would love to see Grant, Satler and Malcom but it won't happen.

Not sure why you dismiss the idea. Jurassic World was a huge nostalgia wank and Universal knows that was a big part of its success. Bringing in one of the original actors for a smaller part would be money in the bank.

[Groot]

Let it be Dr. Grant if they do.

[tilallr1]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Not sure why you dismiss the idea. Jurassic World was a huge nostalgia wank and Universal knows that was a big part of its success. Bringing in one of the original actors for a smaller part would be money in the bank.

Agreed. Similar to the success of Star Wars TFA, would be my guess.

Of course the story has to be amazing too. Just don't know where they can go, Jurassic Worlds End?

Dinosaurs take over the planet .... because they inject Human DNA to make the Raptors smarter (Nod to Deep Blue Sea - Planet of the Apes here) ... LOL

[warrian]

Jurassic World 2 = Jurassic World in a major US city

Jurassic World 3 = Jurassic World next to a retirement community, a special needs school and a children's hospital

[dgoswald]

Originally Posted by warrian

Jurassic World 3 = Jurassic World next to a retirement community, a special needs school and a children's hospital

That sounds so much like an idea Alan Partridge would think of.

[Foggy]

I've never realised that I've needed a Dinosaur film where the whole cast consist of kids in wheelchairs until now.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by dgoswald

True. There was very little, if none at all, growth on her part. I still think she's a very likeable character, perhaps due to the character's passion for her work and her laid-back attitude. She wasn't annoying or "spunky", but just normal I guess. To be fair to her, Alan Grant was the only one in JP1 who underwent any sort of serious character development with the whole learning to be around kids and bringing that protective fatherly instinct to the fore.

You could argue John Hammond learned that playing with nature is wrong too, especially considering that by The Lost World he seems to have changed his mind about Jurassic Park being a good idea.

[dgoswald]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

You could argue John Hammond learned that playing with nature is wrong too, especially considering that by The Lost World he seems to have changed his mind about Jurassic Park being a good idea.

I have a little to no memory of the JP sequels, so I'll take your word for it. I knew AG popped up in a sequel (as did IM), but I had no idea JH was in one too.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by dgoswald

I have a little to no memory of the JP sequels, so I'll take your word for it. I knew AG popped up in a sequel (as did IM), but I had no idea JH was in one too.

John Hammond was dying in TLW, which is why that evil corporate guy was trying to seize control of InGen and do whatever he wanted with the dinosaurs. That's one thing I hope this next film doesn't have, an evil corporate suit.