Onkyo 605 sound question

[obiwopkenobi62]

So I would either have to go back to the optical cable(then I wouldn't be able to do DTS-HDMA) or get a standalone Bluray player and let the receiver do the encoding right? I guess I'll not worry about it right now. What I have sounds great as is.

[un4gvn94538]

you can matrix pcm audio. the ps3 sometimes automatically sends a 7.1 signal that isnt really 7.1. to get around it, deselect some of the higher pcm selection. i have done this with blu ray movies and games

[obiwopkenobi62]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

you can matrix pcm audio. the ps3 sometimes automatically sends a 7.1 signal that isnt really 7.1. to get around it, deselect some of the higher pcm selection. i have done this with blu ray movies and games

You mean some of the audio settings in the PS3 menu. Give me an example so I can play around with it tomorrow. You're sure I can do this with the 605?
Thanks.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by obiwopkenobi62

You're sure I can do this with the 605?
Thanks.

I don't think so. The 705 has THXUltra 2, or some such, which will matrix the 5.1 pcm to 7.1. The 605 does not include this feature.

You would still get 5.1 lossless audio over hdmi, which is superior to the matrixed lossy you would get over bitstreamed optical.

[obiwopkenobi62]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

I don't think so. The 705 has THXUltra 2, or some such, which will matrix the 5.1 pcm to 7.1. The 605 does not include this feature.

You would still get 5.1 lossless audio over hdmi, which is superior to the matrixed lossy you would get over bitstreamed optical.

The 605 does do this. I got it out of my manual. I'm just trying to figure out how to get it to work. It has a bunch of listening modes.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by obiwopkenobi62

The 605 does do this. I got it out of my manual. I'm just trying to figure out how to get it to work. It has a bunch of listening modes.

Yes, it has a bunch of listening modes, but that is not one of them. It was one of the things sacrificed for the lower cost of the 605.

It may matrix from the optical input, but then you wouldn't be getting the hd audio which IMO defeats the purpose.

[zweet77]

You will have to sell your 605 and get 705 they are pretty affordable now that the 06 models are out.

[obiwopkenobi62]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Yes, it has a bunch of listening modes, but that is not one of them. It was one of the things sacrificed for the lower cost of the 605.

It may matrix from the optical input, but then you wouldn't be getting the hd audio which IMO defeats the purpose.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by obiwopkenobi62

So I would either have to go back to the optical cable(then I wouldn't be able to do DTS-HDMA) or get a standalone Bluray player and let the receiver do the encoding right? I guess I'll not worry about it right now. What I have sounds great as is.

No you'd still use HDMI, but you'd select "bitstream" for it to get the lossy core DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1, which could then be matrixed out to 7.1. I think your best choice is to stick with what you have.

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

you can matrix pcm audio. the ps3 sometimes automatically sends a 7.1 signal that isnt really 7.1. to get around it, deselect some of the higher pcm selection. i have done this with blu ray movies and games

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying. "Deselect some of the higher pcm selection" - are you talking about de-selecting the 5.1 settings so it'll push out only 7.1? I don't think this will work.

[un4gvn94538]

as posted before, your receiver may not be able to but it is possible to matrix pcm audio. for example, ut3 is only 5.1. if i deselect 7.1 pcm on the audio set up for the ps3, i can matrix the 5.1 to 7. the receiver still displays 5.1 pcm but i get audio out of all 7 speakers.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

as posted before, your receiver may not be able to but it is possible to matrix pcm audio. for example, ut3 is only 5.1. if i deselect 7.1 pcm on the audio set up for the ps3, i can matrix the 5.1 to 7. the receiver still displays 5.1 pcm but i get audio out of all 7 speakers.

Dude, that's because it's bitstreaming game audio. Either that or you don't have a 605. *EDIT* YOU HAVE THE 705, YA WANK!

KPKelley has it right. I have the receiver and it doesn't have THX.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by aramis109

Dude, that's because it's bitstreaming game audio. Either that or you don't have a 605. *EDIT* YOU HAVE THE 705, YA WANK!

KPKelley has it right. I have the receiver and it doesn't have THX.

i was referring to the post that said you cant matrix pcm audio. it has been since edited and added to. posts dont say edited when text is added all the time. the second paragraph talking about specific receiver models was added, dude.

edit: if it was bitstreaming it would not say multich pcm

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

i was referring to the post that said you cant matrix pcm audio. it has been since edited and added to. posts dont say edited when text is added all the time. the second paragraph talking about specific receiver models was added, dude.

edit: if it was bitstreaming it would not say multich pcm

You CAN matrix it, but not with the 605.

I may be thinking of my 360, but I thought the last time I played a game it switched from multich pcm to DD 5.1 on the receiver, which would imply it's bitstreaming it.