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The Great Owl · 01-26-2017, 11:42 AM

I just ordered Stryker from Barnes & Noble for $16.90, including shipping, by using a 20% Off coupon.

This one is a blind buy, but it looks too fun to pass up.

antennahead · 01-26-2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Knowing my luck it was The Ghost and the Darkness, a catalog title I have wanted forever. Hopefully Paramount's new partner licenses it out.

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Originally Posted by Indiana Jonezzz...

Same here, it's one of the few remaining titles on my unreleased want list!

Make that 3 for "Ghost and the Darkness"

NoirFan · 01-26-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I just ordered Stryker from Barnes & Noble for $16.90, including shipping, by using a 20% Off coupon.

Was this a snail-mail coupon? (A little late now, but FYI, Stryker would have been $13.38 from DD during their last 15% off sale.)

The Great Owl · 01-26-2017, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan

Was this a snail-mail coupon? (A little late now, but FYI, Stryker would have been $13.38 from DD during their last 15% off sale.)

Nope, it was an email coupon that B&N sends to members.

Yeah, I missed that Deep Discount sale, but it's all good.

I'm an Amazon Prime member now, but Stryker is $22 and change on Amazon now, so I saved by going to Barnes & Noble.

WesReviews · 01-26-2017, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterLime

It was a major highly-requested unreleased film. Anymore info would get me in trouble. The rights was not disputed, we licensed it, but the studio decided to take it back and I can't share the reason.

I'm just curious as to the genre it belongs to.

I could be totally wrong, but I'm pretty sure the reason it can't be revealed is that the studio itself has decided to release the title themselves? I mean, that makes the most sense, right? Also explains why Kino can't say anything about it, because the studio in question doesn't want it announced yet.

For example... I was certain The Last Dragon would go to someone like Kino or Mill Creek or Scream Factory or Twilight Time... then out of nowhere, Sony releases a Blu-ray of it themselves. Sometimes a studio, even on a lesser-known flick, can sense when something is wanted by the marketplace.

Of course, I could be totally way off.

Buscemi · 01-26-2017, 01:32 PM

On The Keep: Mann wasn't happy with what Paramount did with the film (it was intended to be a three and a half hour epic released in the Summer with 70mm prints, instead it was cut in half and dumped into Christmas with Paramount giving its promotional money to Uncommon Valor and the wide expansion of Terms of Endearment) and he, along with F. Paul Wilson (who wrote the novel the film is based on), simply washed their hands of the matter (especially since Mann was busy developing a little show being filmed in Florida by the time the film opened).

On True Lies: it's more Cameron than Fox keeping this one from being released. There were plans for a special edition DVD back in 2002 but 9/11 happened and Cameron (whom I believe has part-ownership of the film as well, his company sold international rights to Universal in exchange for financing*) felt re-releasing the film so soon was in poor taste and had the DVD canceled. Around the same time, plans for a sequel were canceled. There were plans more recently for a True Lies series on ABC but Cameron had no involvement and it never really got past talks.

* - This was part of a five-year deal signed after the release of Terminator 2 where Fox would co-finance and distribute domestically films produced or directed by Cameron. Cameron got international rights and would help handle additional financing. Though the deal was expected to handle 8-10 films, only two got made (True Lies and Strange Days). A third film, The Crowded Room, got held up in legal issues.

thatguamguy · 01-26-2017, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ditcin

What's really wanted is a finalized edition of the film, completely re-done as it was originally intended. It can be reconstructed now, digitally to a finished product. From what I've been told the footage is all there waiting.

Has Mann been made aware of *that*? Because he did an interview last year where he specifically said that the footage to do a director's cut of the film didn't exist anymore.

Brad1963 · 01-26-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cloudnine

Probably Goodbar, but The Keep is also a possibility. It's got to be a film that was NOT given to another company.

The issue with Goodbar has never been Paramount's lack of interest. It has always been about the music.

Brad1963 · 01-26-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermartyoh

Could I take a guess that Fox changed their minds on giving you Two For The Road (with Audrey Hepburn), which out of coincidence was given to another label and is due out very soon?

I'm pretty sure TT snatched Two for the Road the moment it became available. I remember it being discussed on FB a few years ago.

ditcin · 01-26-2017, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

Has Mann been made aware of *that*? Because he did an interview last year where he specifically said that the footage to do a director's cut of the film didn't exist anymore.

I've seen some of the footage, and heard there's more. Supposedly, for a new edit. I think it's more of an emotional thing with Mann - like DUNE is with Lynch.

I remember hearing that after the theatrical cut Mann had said he was disappointed that man who over saw the special effects had died and no one knew how he was going to piece together the effect. Well, that no longer an issue. Digitally it can ne done. Mann just shut down on the issue. It's just weird how he has chosen to disassociate himself from the film over the years.

cloudnine · 01-26-2017, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cine74

Even though these titles are typically Kino-centric, they only fit a certain demographic. I take Misterlime's description of "highly requested" to mean a broader audience - meaning it could be anything from 1950 to 1990.

Funny, I've never seen anything either in print or an interview that specifically talks about Michael Mann "disowning" the film. Can you post a link to an article where Mann trashes the film?

My guess for the mystery title: The Abyss. lol

Directors usually do not own their films. It's producers that often do.

cloudnine · 01-26-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WesReviews

I'm just curious as to the genre it belongs to.

I could be totally wrong, but I'm pretty sure the reason it can't be revealed is that the studio itself has decided to release the title themselves? I mean, that makes the most sense, right? Also explains why Kino can't say anything about it, because the studio in question doesn't want it announced yet.

For example... I was certain The Last Dragon would go to someone like Kino or Mill Creek or Scream Factory or Twilight Time... then out of nowhere, Sony releases a Blu-ray of it themselves. Sometimes a studio, even on a lesser-known flick, can sense when something is wanted by the marketplace.

Of course, I could be totally way off.

I agree, what you say makes sense.

baheidstu · 01-26-2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead

Make that 3 for "Ghost and the Darkness"

It wouldn't be Ghost and the Darkness as Paramount released that on DVD.

MisterLime · 01-26-2017, 05:28 PM

Coming Soon on Blu-ray!

No Man's Land (1987) Starring Charlie Sheen, D.B. Sweeney, Lara Harris, Randy Quaid, Bill Duke, R.D. Call, Arlen Dean Snyder and M. Emmet Walsh - Written by Dick Wolf (Law & Order) - Shot by Hiro Narita (The Rocketeer) - Music by Basil Poledouris (RoboCop) - Directed by Peter Werner (Gracie's Choice)

No_mans_land_1987.jpg

BarnDoor · 01-26-2017, 05:29 PM

Nice choice. I had figured Shout might have this one.

BagheeraMcGee · 01-26-2017, 05:38 PM

Definitely pumped about "No Man's Land"! Thanks, Kino!

MisterLime · 01-26-2017, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermartyoh

Could I take a guess that Fox changed their minds on giving you Two For The Road (with Audrey Hepburn), which out of coincidence was given to another label and is due out very soon?

No, the film was not taken from us, so it could be given to another label. It's a film that's never been released on DVD, highly requested and a much bigger title than Two For the Road. The film is not with another label, I thought it'll finally get a release and now I'm pretty sure it'll never be out.

MisterLime · 01-26-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by katsublu

Mr. Lime: Is Choose Me part of the new MGM deal, and if not, do you know if it's with another studio?

with another label.

MisterLime · 01-26-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cloudnine

It bugs me that THE BABYSITTER with William Shatner & Patty Duke is on the MGM HD channel 2-3 times every month yet it's still MIA on DVD. Apparently MGM thinks highly of it.

It's either with another label, or cannot be released due to some legal issues. Just because it was cleared for TV doesn't mean it was for home video.

Member-222782 · 01-26-2017, 05:45 PM

Just read the synopsis for No Man's Land and it sounds very similar to the first Fast and the Furious. Really stoked about this - an 80's version of one of the best action movies of the last 15 years, without the fancy camera moves, kinetic editing and impossible stunt work. Just my cup of tea

01-26-2017, 11:42 AM	#11401
The Great Owl Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Georgia 4K collection:921 Blu-ray collection:6031 DVD collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 255 Trading Score:6	I just ordered Stryker from Barnes & Noble for $16.90, including shipping, by using a 20% Off coupon. This one is a blind buy, but it looks too fun to pass up.

01-26-2017, 01:32 PM	#11406
Buscemi Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2013 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:3841	On The Keep: Mann wasn't happy with what Paramount did with the film (it was intended to be a three and a half hour epic released in the Summer with 70mm prints, instead it was cut in half and dumped into Christmas with Paramount giving its promotional money to Uncommon Valor and the wide expansion of Terms of Endearment) and he, along with F. Paul Wilson (who wrote the novel the film is based on), simply washed their hands of the matter (especially since Mann was busy developing a little show being filmed in Florida by the time the film opened). On True Lies: it's more Cameron than Fox keeping this one from being released. There were plans for a special edition DVD back in 2002 but 9/11 happened and Cameron (whom I believe has part-ownership of the film as well, his company sold international rights to Universal in exchange for financing) felt re-releasing the film so soon was in poor taste and had the DVD canceled. Around the same time, plans for a sequel were canceled. There were plans more recently for a True Lies series on ABC but Cameron had no involvement and it never really got past talks. - This was part of a five-year deal signed after the release of Terminator 2 where Fox would co-finance and distribute domestically films produced or directed by Cameron. Cameron got international rights and would help handle additional financing. Though the deal was expected to handle 8-10 films, only two got made (True Lies and Strange Days). A third film, The Crowded Room, got held up in legal issues.

01-26-2017, 05:28 PM	#11414
MisterLime Kino Insider Member since:Jun 2015	Coming Soon on Blu-ray! No Man's Land (1987) Starring Charlie Sheen, D.B. Sweeney, Lara Harris, Randy Quaid, Bill Duke, R.D. Call, Arlen Dean Snyder and M. Emmet Walsh - Written by Dick Wolf (Law & Order) - Shot by Hiro Narita (The Rocketeer) - Music by Basil Poledouris (RoboCop) - Directed by Peter Werner (Gracie's Choice) No_mans_land_1987.jpg

01-26-2017, 05:29 PM	#11415
BarnDoor Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:338 Blu-ray collection:6006 Trading Score:3	Nice choice. I had figured Shout might have this one.

01-26-2017, 05:38 PM	#11416
BagheeraMcGee Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Back in the Pacific Northwest 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:4645 DVD collection:290 Trading Score:1	Definitely pumped about "No Man's Land"! Thanks, Kino!

01-26-2017, 05:45 PM	#11420
Member-222782 Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:645 Blu-ray collection:4556 DVD collection:474 Trading Score:140	Just read the synopsis for No Man's Land and it sounds very similar to the first Fast and the Furious. Really stoked about this - an 80's version of one of the best action movies of the last 15 years, without the fancy camera moves, kinetic editing and impossible stunt work. Just my cup of tea

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