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Old 11-19-2008, 02:33 AM   #81
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At $15 a gallon, people will demand that crash-test-ratings become more "relaxed" so auto-manufacturers can make smaller/lighter cars (and more dangerous ones at that)

We are JUST beginning to see a change in culture where people drive more motorcycles/scooters etc..... I'd probably get one if I didn't live in the great-white-north where the weather is "good" about 7 hours out of the entire year
"The question at the heart of the oil struggle has always been: how much does the earth have to offer"

Certanaly at $10-15 a gallon, I will not be driving my SUV! "in 1900, 13% lived in cities, today it is 50%" - plan B 3.0. And if global warming is as bad as they say along with dwindling supplies of oil, then get ready for $25 bridge tolls, $100 a day parking and other taxes on just about everything car to make us throw in the towel to public transportation. London, for example, is proposing a $50 charge for SUVs entering the city.

It costs the same to fill up and drive a 15mpg SUV at $5 a gallon as it does a 45mpg hybrid using $15 gas.




End of the American Dream


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

"Homeownership could 'change the very physical, mental and moral fiber of one's own children'" - Herbert Hoover

"The amount of space taken per person for housing has risen from 293 square feet in 1950 to 893 in 2000" - A Nation of Farmers, p 273

"furneces are more efficient, but house size keeps going up. We think efficiency leads to conservation, but it dosen't. Because the more efficient it is, the cheaper it becomes to conusme" - Jeff Rubin

"Here we have a serious problem: America is addicted to oil." - George W. Bush


Subirbia
It was one of the great all American ideas that was appended to the endless ribbons of concrete called our Interstate Highway System. They reached over the horizon and across the planes - a link from sea to shining sea; an organ of the greatest economic nexus the world has ever seen. The post-World War II expansion, also called the Golden Age of Capitalism which began after 1945 and lasted till the early entitlement laden 1970s. It fomented the rise of famous suburban prototypes such as Levittown; the rise of the energy intensive car-based society and the dream of owning a home in a cartoon image of the country oustide the dreary hustle and bustle of the city. The unsustainable high entropy model, however, has been based on the one time buring of fossel fuels that nature took millions of years of create, gone when measured on a goelogical time scale, with the brilliance and brevity of the photographer's flash; a neat highly orderd socity that has spewed out its pernicious effects over the Earth as a diffuse chaotic cloud of climiate altering CO2.

Wiht today's long commutes and the remorseless rise in fuel prices, the freedom from the life of the farm has now strangled us with gastly dependence. Life's essentials are no longer accessable by foot or small town mainstreet. Now they spread out out far and wide, located in distant shopping malls, reached only by two tons of steel, a piston engine and all the services needed to support it. We need a job to own a car, and a car to get a job. Today we are in a delima on how to maintain the vast network roads and houses that we have poured untold trillions of post WWII prosperity into.

There is something reasuring about a big house. The larger it is, the greater the illusion is that it will be around a long time, an airloom for posterity when quite the opposite is true since you have only created a larger object to maintain.

The Sands of Time
It seems ever since man has been capable of consious thought, he has had the need to represent his thoughts in some sort of symbolic form and expended time and energy creating symbols by painting or carving rock.

So you following your harwired impulses, you take a pail to the beach and use it to build a sand castle just out of reach of the ocean waves to animate your ideas. You go to where the sand is moist, perfect for building your work of art. It is just a simple affair, one round pile in the shape of the bucket with a few personal touches. You finish quickly, having expended very little energy and are left with lots of free time on hand. However, the hot sun, working from the top down, dries out your work, and grain by grain, it falls to the ground. Also, from time to time, a rogue wave laps up and eats it away from the bottom up. Since there is not much to it, a quick patch will right things again; at least until another wave comes by and you will be back to work.

But we are never happy for long with same object, so the sense of accomplishment wears off and bordum sets in. A loftier goal is to maintain 100 such castles connected with motes, bridges, silver turrets and whatever you think a castle should have. You job is now exponentiall bigger complex and you are going to have to enlist specialists to manages the complexity and provinde the necessary energy inputs. Your work is grand, but you have less time to enjoy your efforts.

The waves and sand are a parable to laws of entropy that nibbles away at the objects we have created as a civilised society to enrich our lives. Ditto for a big house. Did you really make life better for yourself other then acquiring a status symbol to impress friends? We must always fight to establish order that is contrary to the current that moves towards dissorder. We expend a lot of time and energy in this constant struggle. We attain order in our highly complex socity only by reducing the order of some other system, in this case, the buring of oil which in turn is stored solar energy from a star that is itself wasting away to entropy.

It is interesting to note that the collapse of the Bretton Woods system in 1971, and the 1973 oil crisis brought and end to the boom. President Jimmy Carter, during his presidency, declared the energy situation the 'moral equivalent of war' and took steps in an attempt to fix our growing dependence on foregin oil. This was happening just as the US was reaching its peak oil production.



Suburbia
1950's - 1960's - Modern - Kiitchens
The Oil Crash

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Between 1997 and 2006, the price of the typical American house increased by 124 percent. House prices were rising much faster than income was growing. During the two decades ending in 2001, the national median home price ranged from 2.9 to 3.1 times median household income. This ratio rose to 4.0 in 2004, and 4.6 in 2006...

People bragged that their houses were earning more than they were, believing that the bloating of house values represented a flow of real money that could be tapped essentially forever. In a sense this money was being stolen from the next generation: younger first-time buyers had to burden themselves with unmanageable debt in order to enter the market, while older homeowners who bought before the bubble were able to sell, downsize, and live on the profit...

Between 2006 and mid-2008...soaring oil prices had a sharp recessionary impact, with already cash-strapped new homeowners now having to spend eighty to a hundred dollars every time they filled the tank in their SUV. The auto, airline, shipping, and trucking industries were sent reeling.

Richard Heinberg, The End of Growth, 2011
"The fingerprints of oil clearly remain in all post-war recessions, and the current one is no exception. A rise in interest rates, which is responsible for the bursting of the real-estate bubble in the United States, was triggered by skyrocketing oil prices." - Rubin




The Fuel of Dreams
The Right Stuff (Mach 1), 1947
The Mighty X-15
SR-71 Blackbird
Apollo 11 Landing

Our Nightmare
Global Warming 101Melting Arctic Sea Ice Дым над Москвой - Smoke over Moscow

Hollywood's Take
Born to be Wild
2001: A Space Odyssey, 1968
Top Gun
Soylent Green
Mad Max - Opening Chase


Bibliography
George Soros, The Crash of 2008, PublicAffairs


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Old 11-19-2008, 02:45 AM   #82
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an english teacher once did an exercise with us, that i apply to current gas prices.

he said i need somebody to dig a big hole in my backyard, like really big, 100 ft.x100ftx100ft. take hours, days, years to do, anybody want to help me out? no volunteers.

im paying $5/hr. who wants to do it? nobody raised their hand.

fine, im paying $10/hr. who wants to do it? nobody raised their hand

alright, $15/hr. who want to do it? maybe 2 people raised their hands

$20/hr. any more takers? maybe 40% of the people raised their hands.

$30/hr.? all but a few had their hands raised. (remember this is high school, so $30 is darn good to us back then).

moral of the story is that at a certain price, people will change their attitudes about certain things. at 10-15 dollars a gallon, people WILL change their attitudes about biking, they WILL change their attitudes about public transportation, they WILL change their attitudes about car pooling in a hybrid.

at that point, demand sinks and so does the price. $10-$15 will never happen, we will see major resistance in the American culture around $7/gal.
i totally would of dug it for $5/hr. It's not that hard. you just dig. and since it would take a while, you'd be getting paid alot in the long run.
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i totally would of dug it for $5/hr. It's not that hard. you just dig. and since it would take a while, you'd be getting paid alot in the long run.
wow! you , uh really dont' live up to your name.
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Peak Production



What Did Not Happen

1885, "State Geologist of Pennsylvania warned that 'the amazing exhibition of oil was only a 'temporary and vanishing phenomenon, one which young men will live to see come to its natural end'" (Yergin, p229)
1914, "Oil reserves would be exhaused by 1924" (Bureau of Mines)
1939, "The world has 13 years of petroleum reserves" (Interior Department)
1951, "The world had 13 years of proven reserves" (The Interior)
1970, "The world's proven oil reserves were an estimated 612 billion barrels"
1977, "Mankind could use up all the proven reserves of oil...by the end of the next decade" (Carter).
2005, "Peak oil was suppost to arrive by Thanksgiving 2005. Then the 'unbridgeable supply demand gap' was expected to open up 'after 2007'" (Deffeyes p3, Yergin, p227)
2006: "Proven reserves were 1.2 trillion barrels".
Today: Shale rock in Texas, Lousisiana, Montana, North Dakota, NewYork, Pennsylvania, may contain 2,000 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.

What Has Happened
  • Oil went from $10/barrel in 1999 to about $100/barrel today.
  • Production was 73 mbpd in 2004. Annual average expenditures on oil exploration doubled from 2004 to $600 billion in 2012 to reach 75 mbpd.
  • U.S. employment has yet to reach its 2008 levels. Economies like Greece and Spain have collapsed by as much as 25 percent.
  • Deep water wells deplete at about 10-20% a year.
  • Tight oil depletes at about 40% during the first few years. (Stephen Hren)

The Warnings

"For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered. For decades, we’ve talked and talked about the need to end America’s century-long addiction to fossil fuels. And for decades, we have failed to act with the sense of urgency that this challenge requires." (Obama)

"One day we will run out of oil. It will not be today or tomorrow, but one day we will run out of oil and we have to leave oil before oil leaves us, and we have to prepare ourselves for that day," (Dr. Fatih Birol ,IEA)

"My sense is that we're nearing an endgame for the modern age. I think we had two singular events in the last 18 months that signal the end. First, in July 2008 the price of oil hit $147/barrel. Food riots broke out in 30 countries, the price of basic items shot up and purchasing power plummeted. That was the earthquake; the market crash 60 days later was the aftershock." (Jeremy Rifkin, The Empathic Civilization, 17 February 2010)

"Peak oil will arrive; the question is simply one of timing. It will probably be sooner than most people expect and definitely sooner than many would prefer. In an ideal world, governments would anticipate this development and plan for it; the alternative is a laissez-faire scenario likely to impose high economic costs in terms of stagflation and lost output." (David Ingles and Richard Dennis, 13 September 2010)

“We cannot keep going from shock when gas prices go up to trance when gas prices go back down,” he said. “We can’t rush to propose action when prices are high then push the snooze button when they go down again. We can’t keep doing that. The United States of America cannot afford to bet our long-term prosperity and security on a resource that will eventually run out.” (Obama, 30 March 2011)

"Instead of building the machines we will need to support ourselves as energy supplies decline, we continue to use the steel, glass, electronics, and energy to build the old economy." (Gail the Actuary, TOD, 1 October 2009).

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Excerpts of Carter's speech, April 18 1977

Tonight I want to have an unpleasant talk with you about a problem unprecedented in our history. With the exception of preventing war, this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes. The energy crisis has not yet overwhelmed us, but it will if we do not act quickly...We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and grandchildren.

We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us...Our decision about energy will test the character of the American people and the ability of the President and the Congress to govern. This difficult effort will be the "moral equivalent of war" -- except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy...

The world now uses about 60 million barrels of oil a day and demand increases on average each year about 5%. This means that just to stay even we need the production of a new Texas every year, an Alaskan North Slope every nine months, or a new Saudi Arabia every three years. Obviously, this cannot continue...

We can't substantially increase our domestic production, so we would need to import twice as much oil as we do now. Supplies will be uncertain. The cost will keep going up. Six years ago, we paid $3.7 billion for imported oil. Last year we spent $37 billion -- nearly ten times as much -- and this year we may spend over $45 billion.

PBS American Experience, Jimmy Carter
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"The peaking of world oil production presents the U.S. and the world with an unprecedented risk management problem. As peaking is approached, liquid fuel prices and price volatility will increase dramatically, and, without timely mitigation, the economic, social, and political costs will be unprecedented. Viable mitigation options exist on both the supply and demand sides, but to have substantial impact, they must be initiated more than a decade in advance of peaking."

Robert L. Hirsch, Ph.D.
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"The Peak Oil Debate Is Over"
  1. If something cannot be sustained, it will eventually not be sustained… ultimately it will shrink.
  2. you cannot produce oil unless you first discover it (a contribution by Colin Campbell).
  3. A resource that is finite cannot continually have its production increased.

"We remain heavily dependent on super-giant and giant oilfields discovered in the 50s and 60s of the last century… Only rarely in recent decades have discoveries equaled production. Mostly, it’s been one barrel discovered for every three barrels produced...old super-giants like Burgan in Kuwait and [Cantarell] in Mexico have gone into decline earlier than had been anticipated… and going into decline have been Alaska, the North Sea, western Siberia and the like...Even the Ghawar oilfield is increasingly hard to sustain...Next, given projected decline curves running from 4 to 6 percent, and the projected increase in demand during the next quarter century, we shall require the new capacity equivalence of five Saudi Arabias."

Dr. James Schlesinger, ASPO-USA, 01 November 2010
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German military study warns of potential energy crisis

"...warns of the potential for regional shortages, market failures, and a shift in political power toward those capable of exporting oil...95% of all industrial outputs is dependent on oil as a fuel and/or as a chemical base for polymer production etc. Oil has become a key driver of modern lifestyle and globalization...within a timeframe until the year 2040, a changed international security layout based on new risks (including transport risks for fuels) and new roles of actors in a possible conflict around the distribution of increasingly scarce resources...expect a reduction of “free market” mechanisms in oil trade, and a rise in more protectionism, exchange deals, and political alliances between suppliers and customers...[expect] a reduction of the importance of “Western values” related to democracy, and human rights in the context of politically motivated alliances, which increasingly are driven by emerging economies such as China – likely leading to double standards. Emerging economies are equally expected to receive higher recognition in international organizations, particularly those with strength in resources (such as Russia)...Systemic risks after reaching a 'tipping point'”

Robert Rapier, Energy Bulletin & TOD, 2 Sep 2010
Der Spiegel

The Oil Crash


World Totals and Peak Production
Peak production is when resources become ever more difficult and expensive to extract so the flow rate begins to decline. It's when we use the low hanging fruit first and save the harder stuff for later. The peak will occur long before all the oil has been pumped from the ground. For a single well that has been profitable, this generaly happens at the halfway point, when 50% of it's recoverable resources have been extracted. The pressure drops and the flow decreases unless some additional energy is put in to keep flow up such as using a pump jack, injection, etc. Now imagine the thousands of producing wells around the world. Some are new, some are at peak production, and others are older wells in decline. When percentage of old to new is great enouf, world prodiction goes down even as newsworthy new ones are put on line. The peak of world oil discoveries was in 1965, and oil production per year has surpassed oil discoveries every year since 1980 putting us further and further in the difficult zone called tough oil.

World crude oil production was on a century-long rising trend from less than 1 mbd in 1900 to nearly 75 mbd today. (The Hill), giving us the impression of and endless energy bounty that could be exploited in ever greater quantities by just will power and new technology. It appears, however, that concentional production had topped out a around 2004-2005 and has been at an inelastic undulating plateau within 5% of the peak despite the push of fuel prices that have tripled within the last decade.

Recent models now perdict a terminal decline sometime around 2015 - 2020. Rising fuel prices can still cause total world production to grow short-term as new lower ERoEI inputs from expensive unconventinal oil replace the cheap conventional oil. But much of this new oil will not be profitable, so a longer term decline will set in even though we have used only about 10% of the world reserves.

The grand total of the world's conventional oil supply is estimated to be about 2.013 trillion barrels, though it continues to go up a bit as new supply is found and advancing technology gets more production from older fields. The figure was 1.35 trillion in 2010. We have consumed about 50%, and around 90% of that 50% in the last 50 years. Today we are consuming 86 mbpd; 74 + extra heavy oil, tar sands, etc. In 2009, world demand went down on accout of the Great Recession, but has since rebounded and is expected to reach record levels this year.

In 1969, M. King Hubbert, a geologist who worked for Shell, drew a bell curve called Hubbert's peak or Hubbert's curve which is the sum of many extraction curves for individual wells where P = production and Q = cumulative production. They can be plotted along a straight line, Y = mx + a which is the same as y = mx + b. We let x = Q, y = ratio P/Q and a = the P/Q intercept giving us P/Q = mQ + a. Where the line intersects the P/Q axis, P/Q is highest and Q = 0. Where the line intersects Q we have the maximum cummulative production, Qt, which is about 2 trillion barrels and P/Q = 0. From this line we derive the the symmetrical bell curve that illustrates the rise and fall of production. P/Q = mQ + a, and t = years. P/Q = -aQ/Qt +a, P/Q = a(1 - Q/Qt), P = a(1 - Q/Qt)Q. The area below the curve is cummulative production. He put peak-oil at the year 2000. Deffeyes places the moment on Thanksgiving day 2005. The Wiki graph: World Production shows there is not much to expect in the way of increases after 2010. We could already be on the downside of the curve. Some rough times ahead - greater demand for dwindling oil resurves. As of 11 December 08, I'm paying $1.77 a gallon.
World Oil Production (TOD, November 2009)
The End of Cheap Oil (Scientific American, 1998)

The smooth well behaved deterministic mathematical system/model becomes asymmetrical after the addition of non deterministic inputs outside the boundries of the origional equation. These can be political forces, economic factors, war or advances in technology. For example, in 1973, the increases in price motivated the United States and other nations to begin conservation efforts to reduce dependence and increase domestic exploration. As of 2012, we are using 2.5% less gasoline then we were last year, ending a trend of increasing consumption.
Oil Discoveries and Oil Consumption

Neverthless, we have our work cut out for us. While we have used up half the liquid fuels in a 100 year time, at the current rates of consumption, the remainder will be gone in 35 years. If you accept 1,350 billion, we have a 44 year supply. The first half was the easy to get high ERoEI land based oil found in the 30s through the 60s. The other half is more expensive and of lower quality. It will be in remote, deeper, smaller and less productive deposits including the arctic; beginnig a cycle of diminishing returns. We will be confrunted with falling ERoEI, meaning we get ever less energy out of the system then what we put in until it's no longer viable to pump it out of the ground. This is the journey from the top of the Resource Pyramid to the Bottom. Where we go from highly concentrated low sulfer to low concentrations that are laced with toxens. At what point this is going to happen, I do not know, but we will hit it before we use up the 2nd trillion.

The Boom-Bust Model
George Soros constructs a financial model that peaks and declines very much like the oil one. The bubble begins with an unrecognizable upward trend, a period of acceleration; a period of testing and setback. Then there if there is survival of the testing phase, growth resumes. Then there is a point when reality can no longer sustain the expansion, a twilight period when the game is still played followed by a tipping point and catastrophic downward acceleration (Soros, pp 66,67). The setback before growth marches on is the most striking part: The 1973 OPEC oil embargo made us switch to smaller more fuel efficient cars. Then the oil problem went away and we ended up driving even bigger SUVs.


What we have
Breakdown of Total Oil Reserves:
Conventional Oil - 30%
Heavy Oil - 15%
Extra Heavy Oil - 25%
Oil Sands - 30%

Oil Shale (kerogen) 3 trillion BOE, cost $90 a barrel, must be heated to 700 deg for 2 weeks.
Coal 1.5 trillion BOE, 1,650 pounds CO2 vs 947 pounds for conventional oil.
Heavy Oil 1 -2 trillion BOE, 4.5 barrels of water to 1 barrel of oil. CO2 20% over crude.
Ultra-Deep Offshore 0.1 - 0.7 trillion BOE, pressures up to 2000x sea level.
Natural Gas 1 trillion BOE, Fracking fluids contain toxens.
Enhanced Oil Recovery 0.5 trillion BOE,
Data: Popular Science, July 2011, pp46-55

Reserve-to-production (R/P) in years
United States - 11
Canada -28
Venesuela, Iraq, Iran, Emirats, Arabia - 100

Rising Prices
In the 90's, oil averaged $20 a barrel. Now, in 2009, a new floor of $70 is necessary to fund new deep offshore projects. Higher prices are not only due to supply and demand. In 2008 the average was $99. Bloomberg perdicts 2011 it will be around $87. As I update this in 2011, I could be higher.

1. Land based: $10.
2. Shallow offshore: $15-25
3. Enhanced onshore: $30
4. Enhanced shallow offshore: $40
5. Deep offshore $50-$70
6. Oil sands $60-80
7. Ultra deep offshore: $70-$90
Credit: Buster Cangney, The Oil Drum, 13 October 2009.

"State oil company Petrobras is a case in point. Last year the company discovered vast deepwater reserves that it is developing with a five-year 174 billion investment program. The goal is to double Brazil's production to 3.5 million barrels a day by 1012, making the country a top oil exporter. 'Our deepwater discoveries diden't just fall from the sky. They're the product of a very long-term development program going back 30 years.' says Petrobras CEO Jose Sergio Gabrielli de Azevedo. 'It's the Brazilian equivalent of sending a man to the moon'" (Business Week, 17 August 2009).

Another example of diminishing returns is a recently discovered oil field in the Gulf of Mexico known as 'Jack' which lies in an ultradeep region "175 miles off the coast of Louisiana below 7,200 feet of water and another 30,000 feet under the seabead...an oil patch holding 3 - 15 billion barrels of crude; the largest discovery in the US since 1968" However, "the deeper and further offshore you go to find oil, the bigger the technological and financial hurdles: temperatures 'down hole' gets ever hotter; the pressures more intense, the sea gets rougher, and...placing the drill in the right location gets more and more remote...Anchors can't be used to moor drilling vessels at these depths...the thruster solution keeps the rig 'on station' with six inches in any direction...but carries an energy burden: these 9,500-horsepower engines use a combined total of 27 megawatts of power when running at full capacity - enough power 20,000 homes. Total system power requires 40,000 gallons of diesel per day." (Little, pp 3-9)

“'We’re drillin’ three miles down in the Gulf of Mexico because of peak oil,' drawled Jim Baldauf, former Texan oilman and organiser of the conference. 'We’re scrapin’ the bottom of the barrel, so to speak. We have to drill twice as deep at twice the cost to get half what we’re used to.'” )PeakOil.com, 2 November 2010)

Historical ERoEI
1930's - 100:1
1970's - 40:1
2005 - 14:1. (Little, p 10)
Thermodynamics and diminshing returns in action. The oil age will end with lots of oil still in the ground.

Fuel Source Energy Profit Ratio*
1970 U.S. oil production; 30
Today’s U.S. oil production; 15
Oil sands oil production; 3
Corn ethanol; 1-1.5
Hydrogen from Water; <<1
(Energy Bulletin, 2 Aug 2012)

So How Much is Left?
We have used about one trillion barrels of oil. Estimates of total original oil in place on earth range from 2 trillion barrels to 4-5 trillion, depending on how much effort, energy, and money we can spend to recover it. Our first trillion was the easy to exploite low hanging fruit. The rest is deep beneath the ocean floor, under the Arctic ice; low grade deposits like the oil sands in Alberta and the Orinoco Basin of Venezuela; the low grade oil shales of the Green River Basin in Colorado and Utah.

The current estimates in years:
Coal - Reserves 251, Resources 360
Nature gas - Reserves 64, Resources
Oil - Reserves 41, Resources 125
Nuclear (Uranium) 82, 300 - 10,000
(Science, p786, 13 August 2010)



Off Shore Drilling


"As long as the amount of energy needed to get energy continues to increase, the supply of net energy to society will decrease, despite that fact that the gross supply of oil may stay constant or even slightly increase in the short term." (David Murphy, TOD, 12 June 2010)

"In 1985 only 21 million barrels, or 6% of the oil produced in the Gulf of Mexico, came from wells drilled in water more then 1,000 feet deep. In 2009 such wells produced 456 million barrels, or 80 percent of total gulf production. Today, deepwater gulf wells account for about one quarter of the oil the U.S. sucks from the earth" (Daniel Gross, Newsweek, 14 June 2010)

"The quantity of oil, gas, coal or any other energy bearing resource that is left in the Earth is not the question, all that matters is that portion that can be exploited at a significant energy profit" (Natalie Angier, The Cannon)


Peak Oil Videos
Peak Oil: The Basics of Oil Depletion in 5 Minutes
Acknowledging the reality of Peak Oil
The Future of OIL
Peak Oil Crisis Now, Painful Withdrawal Here
Running on Empty: Life Without Cheap Oil


Glossery
OPEC - Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries.
R/P or RPR - Reserves to Production Ratio. The remaining amount of a non-renewable resource: (amount of known resource) / (amount used per year).

The Streight Line
Slope–intercept form y = mx + b where m = slope = rise/run = y2 - y1/x2 - x1 = Δy/Δx, b = y-intercept
General form Ax + By + C = 0 where A,B ≠ 0, x-intercept = -C/A, y-intercept = -C/B, m = -A/B
Standard form Ax + By = C
Point–slope form y - y1 = m(x - x1)
Two-point form y - y1 = ((y2 - y1)/(x2 - x1))(x - x1)
Intercept form x/a + y/b = c where x-intercept = a, y-intercept = b
Through the origin y = mx

The Derivative
Can be written as: dy/dx, df/dx, df(x)/dx, f'(x) or y'
y = mx + b where m = Δy/Δx.
A measure of how a function changes as its input changes; how much one quantity is changing in response to changes in some other quantity.

Newton's Method of Fluxions (1671, 1736):
y = x² + x + 2; (y + 0y) = (x + 0x)² + (x + 0x) + 1; y + 0y = x² + x + 1 +2x(0x) + 1(ox) + (ox)²;
0y = 2x(ox) + 1(ox) + (ox)²; 0y = 2x(0x) + 1(0x); 0y/0dx = 2x + 1.

The Geometrical Definition
General point: (x1,y1) = (x,f(x)), (x2,y2) = (x+h,f(x+h)); m = y2-y1/x2-x1 = (f(x+h)-f(x))/(x+h-x)
f'(x) = lim h→0 (f(x+h)-f(x))/h
for y = x²;
f'(2) = lim h→0

The Physical Concept
Average Velocity = Distance from A to B/Time from A to B = Δ Distance/ΔTime.
Instantaneous Velocity = lim Δ→0 ΔDistance/ΔTime = lim Δ→0 (A+ΔTime-f(A))/ΔTime
Calculating Δf(x); Rate of change = Δf(x) / Δx
let f(x) = x²; at x: f (x) = x²; at x+Δx: f (x+Δx) = (x + Δx)²;
The difference is Δf(x) = f(x + Δx) - f(x); Δf(x) = (x + Δx)² - x²;
Expanding Δf(x) = x2 + 2xΔx + Δx² - x2;
Simplify Δf(x) = 2xΔx - Δx²
lim Δx → 0 2x + Δx = 2x


Bibliography
Amanda Little, Power Trip, HarperCollins, 2009
James Howard Kunstler, The Long Emergency, Grove Press, 2005

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Old 12-12-2008, 01:20 AM   #86
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I need to read more into economics and oil to fully grasp the concept.

All I know is, it's $1.75 here, and I haven't paid that little since I first got my own vehicle as a senior in HS back in 03.
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On 100+ million barrels a day demand for oil:

The total world's oil supply is ~2.013 trillion barrels. We have used half that up and are using about 86 million barrels a day now. In 1969, M. King Hubert drew a bell-shaped curve "Hubbert's peak" that put peak-oil at the year 2000, From Kenneth Deffeyes book Beyond Oil, it's 2005. Eather way, we are now on the downside of that curve. We are in for some rough times ahead - greater demand for dwindling oil resurves. As of 12/11/08, I'm paying $1.77 a gallon.

U.S. Gas Demand Rising to Mid-2008 Levels

China's oil demand edges up as crude slumps

There seems to be this perception of a massive drop in world-wide demand. Hence lots of capacity to grow back into. But, that isn't the case:

IEA Says Oil Use to Fall for First Year Since 1983

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Next year consumption worldwide will increase by 400,000 barrels a day, or 0.5 percent, to 86.3 million barrels a day, according to the report.
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While the agency trimmed its estimate for oil use in developing nations by 300,000 barrels a day in 2009, that still leaves growth of 2.9 percent, taking non-OECD demand to 39.4 million barrels a day. Chinese consumption will climb 3.7 percent to 8.23 million barrels a day.
PRICES have plummeted because demand in the rich importing nations has dropped. But, all this has given the developing nations (who frequently subsidize the cost of oil to consumers) a huge break, and allowed them to increase their demand.

- Cheap gas driving up usage
- The economy causing people to delay purchasing more fuel efficient cars
- China and other developing nations soaking up much of the lowered western demand
- New projects such as more efficient refining and new sources being delayed because of the current oil prices and economy

The geopolitical issues when this all turns around, and the rich importing nations demand "their" oil back, are going to be ugly.

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Working in Tampa this week. Payed $1.62.
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U.S. Gas Demand Rising to Mid-2008 Levels

China's oil demand edges up as crude slumps

There seems to be this perception of a massive drop in world-wide demand. Hence lots of capacity to grow back into. But, that isn't the case:

IEA Says Oil Use to Fall for First Year Since 1983





PRICES have plummeted because demand in the rich importing nations has dropped. But, all this has given the developing nations (who frequently subsidize the cost of oil to consumers) a huge break, and allowed them to increase their demand.

- Cheap gas driving up usage
- The economy causing people to delay purchasing more fuel efficient cars
- China and other developing nations soaking up much of the lowered western demand
- New projects such as more efficient refining and new sources being delayed because of the current oil prices and economy

The geopolitical issues when this all turns around, and the rich importing nations demand "their" oil back, are going to be ugly.

Gary
It's going to be uglier than many think. There is every reason to believe economic recovery in the US will be slower than the regrowth of the price of petroleum. Demand will keep increasing in China and India, where they have lots of (our) cash. It will be potentially devastating. How bad would things be here now, if we were still paying $4 instead of $1.59 per gallon (in Duluth, MN). With state and municipal budgets already beyond busted, how much worse would it be trying to keep roads clear and homes warm this winter.
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I am in So. Cal. and today I filled up for $1.68 per gal.
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$1.37 here.
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$1.37 here.
Where is "here."
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I need to read more into economics and oil to fully grasp the concept.

All I know is, it's $1.75 here, and I haven't paid that little since I first got my own vehicle as a senior in HS back in 03.
Gas was JUST starting to hit the $1.00 mark when I started driving.... That was when I just turned 16 (14 years ago )


Right around $1.50 to $1.60 in Cleveland (OH, not TN or CO)
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Saw someone post on another board, $.80-something cents. This was about a week ago. I didn't believe it, and since the poster indicated their location I pulled it up, and confirmed it. He said he was now drinking gas instead of water! Since it was cheaper..

Obviously he was joking, but damn. It's a $1.92 here for Shell Premium, the only thing I put in my car. And with 24 gallons, it's a while before I fill up. I get about 375 miles on a full tank (16mpg).

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Yeah, I'm quoting the "Regular Unleaded" prices.... but I get "Plus" ... I'd love to get premium too, but at 15 MPG, it got too expensive during the $4/gallon days.
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1.35 here.
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I am in So. Cal. and today I filled up for $1.68 per gal.
So. Cal here also, 1.63/gal
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$1.69 here in WI which is nice b/c then when i leave the car warm up in the morning, i'm not throwing as much money away anymore.
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Don't rejoice over cheap gas. It's actually an indicator of just how bad things will likely get.
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