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Old 11-19-2008, 10:13 PM   #41
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Because they paid for it? so what.

Like i said before does it matter how sony got to 14 million as long as they got there.
 
Old 11-19-2008, 10:17 PM   #42
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Because they paid for it? so what.

Like i said before does it matter how sony got to 14 million as long as they got there.
my point is thats 10 million real users. i've got multiple accounts on both systems, and they shouldn't be counted like sony is counting them.

if a bunch of fake user accounts tickles your pickle, then yay sony!
 
Old 11-19-2008, 10:17 PM   #43
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Who wants to predict the Xbot Response™ to this?

I'm banking on something along the lines of, "Who cares? It doesn't matter how many people are on it because XBL is better, and that's a FACT suckers!!!!" (Screw up the grammar to make it sound more Xbot-esque).
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ok, now everybody go hug their PS3s and tell them how much you love them... good lord, who cares if PSN has as many or more members than Xbox Live?
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Do you REALLY WANT a company to win and only have ONE choice when it comes to gaming? You know what happens then? Your games turn to garbage because the manufacuturer no longer has to compete for your money - if you want a gaming console, you MUST buy theirs - when there is competition between companies, the consumer wins - if one company is judged the "winner" then we all lose - look at what EA has done with the exclusive NFL games - they regurgitate the same stuff year after year because they are the ONLY NFL game in town - so honestly, why all this fanboy crap? You should all be happy that there is competition between Sony, MS, and Nintendo - I own all 3 systems and each one gives me a different experience. Just be happy you have a CHOICE. You guys may all trust in ONE company, but I for one know that companies are ruled by profit - and when profit wins out over quality, its not a good thing...
That's a ridiculous argument because there are third party publishers who compete with each other, as well as with first party.
 
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Did I call it or what?


That's a ridiculous argument because there are third party publishers who compete with each other, as well as with first party.
but if there's only ONE console in town, the manufacturer could easily tell the 3rd party publishers what they can and can't do... MONOPOLIES ARE BAD

...and what exactly did you call? The "xbot" response? No, this is actually the "sick of stupid fanboyism" response - why is there such a need to "protect this house?" What's so hard to see that having a choice is good? But I guess, I'll just attempt to force my beliefs and thoughts on all of you so that I can feel better about myself...

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Old 11-19-2008, 10:33 PM   #45
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Newsflash: first party already tells publishers what they can and can't do.
 
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Newsflash: first party already tells publishers what they can and can't do.
Ok, well if you're ok with it then... ok - enjoy
 
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but if there's only ONE console in town, the manufacturer could easily tell the 3rd party publishers what they can and can't do... MONOPOLIES ARE BAD

...and what exactly did you call? The "xbot" response? No, this is actually the "sick of stupid fanboyism" response - why is there such a need to "protect this house?" What's so hard to see that having a choice is good? But I guess, I'll just attempt to force my beliefs and thoughts on all of you so that I can feel better about myself...
Didn't the PS2 pretty much own the last generation? I remember being able to buy tons of good games for it, and not having a major problem. This generation there seems to be less good games.
 
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http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4159.html

some clarification on the numbers..

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Sony has now clarified with GameSpot UK that the 14 million "active users" does include PSP accounts as well as PS3, just because both include "PlayStation Network services." In other words, the 14 million represents the total number of active Network accounts, and contrary to popular opinion, they're not counting duplicates. So of course, the logical question is, how many users are logging on with their PS3? Well, according to a Sony representative:

"We've seen an increase in unique [PS3] consoles registered for PSN compared to the sell through rate, which means we are seeing more PlayStation 3 owners who didn't previously register, do so lately, based on the new features we've added to PSN, such as Video Store and Trophies."
doesn't include duplicates so i guess that makes me feel better about the numbers. the number of psp users can't be all that big, so that's an impressive number. good job sony
 
Old 11-22-2008, 02:36 PM   #49
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http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/11/19/...ive-user-base/

Yes its finally happened. What Microsoft did in 6 years, Sony did it in 2. This may be because there are multiple accounts on some machines, but this is still a bid day for Sony.

I think around Febuary (month I signed up), there was like under 3 million signed up to PSN. Now, in less than a year, there was just a huge spike.
Live is a paid service. PSN is free that allows people to create multiple accnts - I have three myself. I love Sony and give credit where credit is due, but PSN is no where near Live at this stage.
 
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Live is a paid service. PSN is free that allows people to create multiple accnts - I have three myself. I love Sony and give credit where credit is due, but PSN is no where near Live at this stage.
see the post above yours
 
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Didn't the PS2 pretty much own the last generation? I remember being able to buy tons of good games for it, and not having a major problem. This generation there seems to be less good games.
Yeah, PS2 was pretty much the hands down winner - I'm just saying the overall attitude that seems to permeate many of these discussions is that people want THEIR console to ultimately drive the other out of existence - which I can't understand... I can admit that the PS3 has oodles of unlocked potential, but the point I'm making is that the potential of the PS3 simply causes the competitors to raise the bar in the next gen... which then causes a response from Sony and so forth - if there were NO COMPETITION, we'd still be only buying the NES.
 
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PSN is free that allows people to create multiple accnts - I have three myself.
Pretending XBL Silver doesn't exist today are we?
 
Old 11-23-2008, 06:25 PM   #53
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Live is a paid service. PSN is free that allows people to create multiple accnts - I have three myself. I love Sony and give credit where credit is due, but PSN is no where near Live at this stage.
You see what i was talking about everybody? its always the same damn excuses, its pathetic.

And just so you know live has multiple accounts to.
 
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some clarification on the numbers..



doesn't include duplicates so i guess that makes me feel better about the numbers. the number of psp users can't be all that big, so that's an impressive number. good job sony
Interesting. I wonder how many psp users have an account attached to that?
 
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I hope that news shuts everybody up.
 
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Interesting. I wonder how many psp users have an account attached to that?
I don't have a PS3, but in my household we do have 3 PSPs.... Each with their own account.. And in all honesty, I don't use the PSN much (last time I just used it through my web browser on the laptop and transferred info over)...

I should cancel my accounts just out of my fanboy-ism to the 360... Just kidding there... but in all honesty, PSP users should not count if you want to make the playing field level... But how many solely PSP PSN accounts are there? A couple hundred thousand at best?

Still a good job for Sony... But I think they would be smart to start charging for the service... you can only go so long with freeloaders...
 
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I don't have a PS3, but in my household we do have 3 PSPs.... Each with their own account.. And in all honesty, I don't use the PSN much (last time I just used it through my web browser on the laptop and transferred info over)...

I should cancel my accounts just out of my fanboy-ism to the 360... Just kidding there... but in all honesty, PSP users should not count if you want to make the playing field level... But how many solely PSP PSN accounts are there? A couple hundred thousand at best?

Still a good job for Sony... But I think they would be smart to start charging for the service... you can only go so long with freeloaders...
I believe they're going the advertisements route
 
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Im sure that number will be 100 million + somewhere in the future just like the historic sales of the Sony PSX and PS2 hehe.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 04:34 AM   #59
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MS only got more accounts because of the 360. since, you dont need a credit card anymore. and, silver is free.
 
Old 11-24-2008, 09:50 PM   #60
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. But I think they would be smart to start charging for the service... you can only go so long with freeloaders...
People have a certain amount of disposal income they are going to spend...instead of spending it on a service we end up spending it on the content instead. So no freeloaders. ... just happier customers.
 
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