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Old 11-20-2008, 07:26 AM   #1
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First of all, It's "Mac", not "MAC". Mac is not an acronym.

Second off, Apple is very reluctant into buying into Blu-Ray (acquiring the expensive license) because Jobs thinks that digital download will takeover (his words, not mine). He also has the right to lead the company however he choses, so I support him being a Mac owner myself (even though I believe Blu-Ray is quite a landmark).

As of right now, Macs support burning data, etc onto a Blu-Ray discs using Toast. So apple isn't completely out of the Blu-Ray scene.

However, as of right now, Macs do not support Blu-Ray Playback.

There are substantial rumors that the next release of MOSX 10.5.6 will support Blu-Ray playback. If not, then OSX 10.6 will.

and btw, OSX is ahead of its time (minus the Blu-ray thing). Apple is just trying to do what they believe in, and that is fine by all means, because that's what made them such a successful company in the first place.

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Old 11-20-2008, 01:52 PM   #2
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First of all, It's "Mac", not "MAC". Mac is not an acronym.

Second off, Apple is very reluctant into buying into Blu-Ray (acquiring the expensive license) because Jobs thinks that digital download will takeover (his words, not mine). He also has the right to lead the company however he choses, so I support him being a Mac owner myself (even though I believe Blu-Ray is quite a landmark).

As of right now, Macs support burning data, etc onto a Blu-Ray discs using Toast. So apple isn't completely out of the Blu-Ray scene.

However, as of right now, Macs do not support Blu-Ray Playback.

There are substantial rumors that the next release of MOSX 10.5.6 will support Blu-Ray playback. If not, then OSX 10.6 will.

and btw, OSX is ahead of its time (minus the Blu-ray thing). Apple is just trying to do what they believe in, and that is fine by all means, because that's what made them such a successful company in the first place.
It's Blu-ray, not Blu-Ray.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:57 PM   #3
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First of all, It's "Mac", not "MAC". Mac is not an acronym.

Second off, Apple is very reluctant into buying into Blu-Ray (acquiring the expensive license) because Jobs thinks that digital download will takeover (his words, not mine). He also has the right to lead the company however he choses, so I support him being a Mac owner myself (even though I believe Blu-Ray is quite a landmark).

As of right now, Macs support burning data, etc onto a Blu-Ray discs using Toast. So apple isn't completely out of the Blu-Ray scene.

However, as of right now, Macs do not support Blu-Ray Playback.

There are substantial rumors that the next release of MOSX 10.5.6 will support Blu-Ray playback. If not, then OSX 10.6 will.

and btw, OSX is ahead of its time (minus the Blu-ray thing). Apple is just trying to do what they believe in, and that is fine by all means, because that's what made them such a successful company in the first place.
I am a die hard Mac fan I have 3 Mac's and the only thing that made them a successful company was the Ipod because before they launched the Ipod they were about to go under
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:02 PM   #4
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The real reason they don't support Blu-ray? Sony.
While they don't really have anything against Sony, despite being competitors on many markets, Sony is asking for a lot in licensing fees for Blu-ray. Apple just doesn't want to pay that much for something that is still so new that most people wouldn't use it.
I am very confident that as the fees go down,, the prices go down, the demand goes up, and more people are aware of the product, Apple will support Blu-ray.
I expect this to happen sometime next year, or early 2010. By then, Apple will have no choice since digital downloads are not meeting all the hype they are getting.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:45 PM   #5
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The real reason they don't support Blu-ray? Sony.
While they don't really have anything against Sony, despite being competitors on many markets, Sony is asking for a lot in licensing fees for Blu-ray. Apple just doesn't want to pay that much for something that is still so new that most people wouldn't use it.
I am very confident that as the fees go down,, the prices go down, the demand goes up, and more people are aware of the product, Apple will support Blu-ray.
I expect this to happen sometime next year, or early 2010. By then, Apple will have no choice since digital downloads are not meeting all the hype they are getting.
Odd that HP, Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, etc... all seem to think it is a good idea and can afford it.
The units all seem to be selling.

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Old 11-20-2008, 02:59 PM   #6
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The PC commercials should add blu-ray in them since the Mac doesn't currently support it. Associating the PC with hi-def/blu-ray and being a bulllet point over the Mac might help change their thinking. But in general, Apple has never appeared to be very open to ideas/technology they didn't create or can't completely control. IMO, that seems to be part of their strategy for stability.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:21 PM   #7
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I don't own a mac and I often wonder about Jobs reluctance to adopt some technologies (blu-ray for mac, flash for the iphone (and I AM a proud iphone user)).
In any case, since you can run Windows on a mac, why wouldn't an external drive work with Windows? )
O.K., there might be some HDCP issues, BUT.... (and I will stop the conversation here, for obvious reasons! )
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:15 PM   #8
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The new MacBook's are HDCP enabled so I guess we are taking a step in the right direction, all we need is a 3rd party (As Apple won't do it until Snow Leopard) to make an app to play them back.

Until then use Vista
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:16 PM   #9
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The new MacBook's are HDCP enabled so I guess we are taking a step in the right direction, all we need is a 3rd party (As Apple won't do it until Snow Leopard) to make an app to play them back.

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Old 11-30-2008, 07:49 AM   #10
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I am a die hard Mac fan I have 3 Mac's and the only thing that made them a successful company was the Ipod because before they launched the Ipod they were about to go under
I dunno... I'd wager the iMac had a great deal more to do with than the iPod did... coming out several years before the first (and least popular) 5GB iPod model.

I'd also place a bet, that the return of steve jobs had a bigger impact as well.

Note worthy, when the iPod was released, Apple was not 'about to go under' by any means..

tossing out my pennies to ya..
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:22 AM   #11
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I dunno... I'd wager the iMac had a great deal more to do with than the iPod did... coming out several years before the first (and least popular) 5GB iPod model.

I'd also place a bet, that the return of steve jobs had a bigger impact as well.

Note worthy, when the iPod was released, Apple was not 'about to go under' by any means..

tossing out my pennies to ya..
I'd have to agree with you there. Apple was going down, then brought Steve back, his first big release the colorful imacs G3's. The G4's-G5's Apple had the Pros back and Schools catching on again, with the hipsters on the imacs.
The ipod of course had a lot of influence, but that was more of a growing spurt than saving them from the down fall as the imac did.
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:35 PM   #12
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First of all, It's "Mac", not "MAC". Mac is not an acronym.
MAC - Macintosh Apple Computer. Looks like it could be an acronym if someone wanted it to be.

No need to be Mr English. This isn't school.
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:09 PM   #13
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There are substantial rumors that the next release of MOSX 10.5.6 will support Blu-Ray playback. If not, then OSX 10.6 will.
It's also worth noting that MacOS X v10.6 (Snow Leopard) is rumored to ship at some point between January and April 2009.
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:52 PM   #14
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Jobs thinks that digital download will takeover (his words, not mine).
Jobs might be right. No reason not to share the view yourself. It is quite plausible that on-line mid-def sharing or the downloading of 1280x720p movies will please most consumers.

Moreover, some Blu-Ray player manufacturers are sabotaging the future of the medium by simuultaneously peddling much cheaper standard DVD players with HDMI plugs, and with claims they upscale to 1080p or are "the ideal player for your HDTV." Since some come bundled with 5-channel sound systems, many customers will be tempted and subsequently never buy into Blu-Ray. BD player sales might be up 12% this season, but that hardly makes a dent in the overall market. Just look at the comparative shelf space use of the competing wares. Finally, with all consumer electronics sales being pummeled by the recession, the appeal of a cheap "soft" means to see HD video may be compelling.
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Jobs might be right. No reason not to share the view yourself. It is quite plausible that on-line mid-def sharing or the downloading of 1280x720p movies will please most consumers.

Moreover, some Blu-Ray player manufacturers are sabotaging the future of the medium by simuultaneously peddling much cheaper standard DVD players with HDMI plugs, and with claims they upscale to 1080p or are "the ideal player for your HDTV." Since some come bundled with 5-channel sound systems, many customers will be tempted and subsequently never buy into Blu-Ray. BD player sales might be up 12% this season, but that hardly makes a dent in the overall market. Just look at the comparative shelf space use of the competing wares. Finally, with all consumer electronics sales being pummeled by the recession, the appeal of a cheap "soft" means to see HD video may be compelling.
Super Up-Conversion Kit, anyone?
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The answer to "How do you play BR on a mac?" is:
Get a PC, place it on top of your mac, insert disk into BR drive, and hit play!
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The answer to "How do you play BR on a mac?" is:
Get a PC, place it on top of your mac, insert disk into BR drive, and hit play!
A Mac is a PC = Personal Computer.
To play Blu-ray on a shit Mac just use BootCamp/VMWare or build a better computer and buy a far cheaper BD Drive compared to how much Apple with overcharge for.
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A Mac is a PC = Personal Computer.
To play Blu-ray on a shit Mac just use BootCamp/VMWare
Edit: Apparently from Post# 74 there is now perfected Blu-ray compatibility for newer Macs with ( http://www.macblurayplayer.com/ ).

The licensed HDCP is now somehow decoded via the internet connection and mac blu-ray software / hardware/rom player connections.

Minimum recomendation requirements:
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That works for personal BD recordings, but it doesn't solve the compatibility problem for commercial Blu-ray discs. *See post# 45.
As stated earlier in this thread, the reason is because Macs do not have licensed HDCP capability in the hardware or the software and neither does any of the Macintosh HD monitors. Although I've experienced one hack/software that played portions of a commercial Blu-ray encoded theatrical feature, but it had no play control and stuttered sporadically.
Just build an HTPC or build a new computer which will leave all Apples in the dust. Oh wait mine already does.
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First of all, It's "Mac", not "MAC". Mac is not an acronym.

Second off, Apple is very reluctant into buying into Blu-Ray (acquiring the expensive license) because Jobs thinks that digital download will takeover (his words, not mine). He also has the right to lead the company however he choses, so I support him being a Mac owner myself (even though I believe Blu-Ray is quite a landmark).

As of right now, Macs support burning data, etc onto a Blu-Ray discs using Toast. So apple isn't completely out of the Blu-Ray scene.

However, as of right now, Macs do not support Blu-Ray Playback.

There are substantial rumors that the next release of MOSX 10.5.6 will support Blu-Ray playback. If not, then OSX 10.6 will.

and btw, OSX is ahead of its time (minus the Blu-ray thing). Apple is just trying to do what they believe in, and that is fine by all means, because that's what made them such a successful company in the first place.
And, it's Blu-ray not "Blu-Ray".

You're sort of right in one part and then slip off on the other.
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