Unforgiven (1992) (Remastered) - Page 6 - Blu-ray Forum

The Great Owl · 05-15-2017, 01:15 AM

I do not yet have a 4K UHD Blu-ray player and my 4K television is not equipped with the right HDMI hookup for such a player, but, I figure that, if I'm buying a new movie that I want on standard Blu-ray (La La Land, Passengers, etc.) or if I'm double-dipping for a noticeably improved standard Blu-ray remaster (Unforgiven, Labyrinth, etc.), and these are available in 4K UHD Blu-ray + Blu-ray combo packs, then why not shell out an extra five dollars just to get the combo pack so that I can have future-proof editions of these movies?

4K UHD Blu-ray may prove to be a viable format or it may not, but it's worth a gamble, especially when these combo packs are not that much more expensive.

The marketing decision to release these initial 4K UHD Blu-ray releases as combo packs with their respective standard Blu-rays is a wise and practical decision for all parties.

grim_tales · 05-15-2017, 01:15 AM

Why do I have to buy a new format I can't play just to get the normal Blu Ray? That sounds like a load of ass.

HD Goofnut · 05-15-2017, 01:15 AM

If you are a true film fan you'd be an idiot (unless you don't have the money) not to upgrade to 4K as this is almost the resolution of 35mm.

StingingVelvet · 05-15-2017, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

No, it's really not. DVD was an eye sore on my (then) new HDTV. That's what pushed me to jump on Blu-ray. I'll admit I tried to rationalize my way out of it for a time, but eventually I dove in.

Blu-ray looks absolutely stunning on my 4K TV. No BS. It doesn't have your new fangled HDR (which has not bewitched me as it has apparently everybody else), but the detail is crisp and clear and overall gorgeous. That's all I want.

Blu-rays do look amazing upscaled. UHDs look better. I want the best, especially when it's not that much more expensive. Someday when UHD players and televisions are even cheaper you'll probably see for yourself.

rocknblues81 · 05-15-2017, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Bet this is all coming from silly people who supported a truly gimmicky home video format like Blu-Ray 3D.

Not me.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-15-2017, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

If you are a true film fan you'd be an idiot (unless you don't have the money) not to upgrade to 4K as this is almost the resolution of 35mm.

Then I'm happy being an idiot.

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Blu-rays do look amazing upscaled. UHDs look better. I want the best, especially when it's not that much more expensive. Someday when UHD players and televisions are even cheaper you'll probably see for yourself.

I've seen UHD in action. I've seen HDR (no thanks). I remain unmoved.

Trekkie313 · 05-15-2017, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Man, all of this Anti-4K jabber is a bunch of hogwash.

Bet this is all coming from silly people who supported a truly gimmicky home video format like Blu-Ray 3D.

3D is not silly.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-15-2017, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Trekkie313

3D is not silly.

Bet these guys will just love that I made my choice of 4K TV based on whether it did 3D or not.

infiniteCR · 05-15-2017, 01:29 AM

Sounds to me like the bluray is so darn good it will help sell the UHD disc right now. If it were just a tad better a movie I might've given in and bought an extra UHD disc that I would never use just to own the blu now. These newer blus just keep getting better and better.

imsounoriginal · 05-15-2017, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by infiniteCR

Sounds to me like the bluray is so darn good it will help sell the UHD disc right now. If it were just a tad better a movie I might've given in and bought an extra UHD disc that I would never use just to own the blu now. These newer blus just keep getting better and better.

HonestJohn · 05-15-2017, 01:38 AM

Just ordered this for the Blu-ray after reading a few words from RAH over at HTF. I have no intention in going 4K UHD unless I win the lottery which I don't play, so chances are pretty slim. I was going to wait for the eventual Blu-ray release, but I'm sure I can get at least half of the money back if I just Ebay the 4K UHD disc.

Edit: Sorry, please skip the PM's for the 4K UHD disc, might be keeping it after all.....maybe. Never thought I was going blu either, so in the words of my favorite Bond.... Never Say Never Again.

GasmaskAvenger · 05-15-2017, 03:36 AM

Why are some people trying to make 4K fail?

It's goddamn DVD that's the real enemy, you fools.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-15-2017, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Why are some people trying to make 4K fail?

It's goddamn DVD that's the real enemy, you fools.

Here I thought streaming was supposed to be the enemy.

None of are "trying to make 4K fail". Speaking for myself, I just don't care about it.

Also, there's lots of stuff on DVD that I can only watch on that format. Why would it be the enemy? It's still a physical format, at least.

asmodeux21 · 05-15-2017, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Why are some people trying to make 4K fail?

It's goddamn DVD that's the real enemy, you fools.

It is amazing that dvds still exist, but I know a lot of people who buy dvds and have not upgraded to blu ray.

Trekkie313 · 05-15-2017, 03:51 AM

DVD for new releases will hopefully be dead by the end of the decade. 25 years is good run.

bootsy · 05-15-2017, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Man, all of this Anti-4K jabber is a bunch of hogwash.

Bet this is all coming from silly people who supported a truly gimmicky home video format like Blu-Ray 3D.

Man, leave 3D out of it. Just like you love 4K there are people like me who love Blu-Ray 3D. Nothing wrong with any of the formats but don't put down Blu-Ray 3D for your bs argument. That's weak.

HeavyHitter · 05-15-2017, 05:39 AM

Bottom line is 2D, 3D, and UHD BD help keep physical media going and that's all what matters.

StingingVelvet · 05-15-2017, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Bottom line is 2D, 3D, and UHD BD help keep physical media going and that's all what matters.

Yeah. I wouldn't call DVD the enemy, but it was never good for blu-ray that DVD got to stick around this whole time supported by cheapskates who couldn't pony up $50 for a BD player. I used to talk to them all the time on my Star Trek and Doctor Who forums, and they would scream at me that $50 was a huge amount of money to them and that BDs didn't look any better so they didn't care. Same as some above are doing about UHD.

In the end most consumers don't care about quality after it meets a certain acceptable standard. From then on they only care about price and convenience. I get that, I get the reality of it. That's why I said I hope there's more releases like this that force people to support UHD, because I want it to succeed despite that.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-15-2017, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I wouldn't call DVD the enemy, but it was never good for blu-ray that DVD got to stick around this whole time supported by cheapskates who couldn't pony up $50 for a BD player.

Aren't you one classy fellow.

Talal86 · 05-15-2017, 06:29 AM

I've already upgraded my set to 4k, but I still think that the uhd releases are half baked so far, specially catalog releases. I bet in a couple of years we'll have to buy all of these movies yet again, when the studios *finally* get it right

if anything, a 4k tv and player made me love 1080p blu rays even more

05-15-2017, 01:38 AM	#111
HonestJohn Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2011 Location:The Final Frontier ... 4K collection:419 Blu-ray collection:547 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:2	Just ordered this for the Blu-ray after reading a few words from RAH over at HTF. I have no intention in going 4K UHD unless I win the lottery which I don't play, so chances are pretty slim. I was going to wait for the eventual Blu-ray release, but I'm sure I can get at least half of the money back if I just Ebay the 4K UHD disc. Edit: Sorry, please skip the PM's for the 4K UHD disc, might be keeping it after all.....maybe. Never thought I was going blu either, so in the words of my favorite Bond.... Never Say Never Again. Last edited by HonestJohn; 05-16-2017 at 01:42 AM.

05-15-2017, 01:15 AM	#101
The Great Owl Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Georgia 4K collection:921 Blu-ray collection:6029 DVD collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 255 Trading Score:6	I do not yet have a 4K UHD Blu-ray player and my 4K television is not equipped with the right HDMI hookup for such a player, but, I figure that, if I'm buying a new movie that I want on standard Blu-ray (La La Land, Passengers, etc.) or if I'm double-dipping for a noticeably improved standard Blu-ray remaster (Unforgiven, Labyrinth, etc.), and these are available in 4K UHD Blu-ray + Blu-ray combo packs, then why not shell out an extra five dollars just to get the combo pack so that I can have future-proof editions of these movies? 4K UHD Blu-ray may prove to be a viable format or it may not, but it's worth a gamble, especially when these combo packs are not that much more expensive. The marketing decision to release these initial 4K UHD Blu-ray releases as combo packs with their respective standard Blu-rays is a wise and practical decision for all parties.

05-15-2017, 01:15 AM	#102
grim_tales Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2013 Location:St. Albans, UK	Why do I have to buy a new format I can't play just to get the normal Blu Ray? That sounds like a load of ass.

05-15-2017, 01:15 AM	#103
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2373 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1091 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	If you are a true film fan you'd be an idiot (unless you don't have the money) not to upgrade to 4K as this is almost the resolution of 35mm.

05-15-2017, 01:29 AM	#109
infiniteCR Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2014 4K collection:327 Blu-ray collection:1649 DVD collection:190 Blu-ray reviews:5	Sounds to me like the bluray is so darn good it will help sell the UHD disc right now. If it were just a tad better a movie I might've given in and bought an extra UHD disc that I would never use just to own the blu now. These newer blus just keep getting better and better.

05-15-2017, 03:36 AM	#112
GasmaskAvenger Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jul 2014 Location:Fresno, California, USA 4K collection:1105 Blu-ray collection:4970 DVD collection:655 Trading Score:33	Why are some people trying to make 4K fail? It's goddamn DVD that's the real enemy, you fools.

05-15-2017, 03:51 AM	#115
Trekkie313 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:1650 DVD collection:547 Digital collection:156 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:59	DVD for new releases will hopefully be dead by the end of the decade. 25 years is good run.

05-15-2017, 05:39 AM	#117
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	Bottom line is 2D, 3D, and UHD BD help keep physical media going and that's all what matters.

05-15-2017, 06:29 AM	#120
Talal86 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:374 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:74	I've already upgraded my set to 4k, but I still think that the uhd releases are half baked so far, specially catalog releases. I bet in a couple of years we'll have to buy all of these movies yet again, when the studios finally get it right if anything, a 4k tv and player made me love 1080p blu rays even more

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