Wonder Woman (2017)

[Dragon Ranger]

I can see where you are coming from with wanting to see more of your favourite actors in certain roles but ultimately they are a hired gun and I don't think an actor should hang around beyond what the story calls for.

For me the use of Russell Crowe was perfect in Man of Steel; he was able to effectively mentor his son through his heroes journey while also lock horns with his nemesis even after his death. Erasing his conciousness from the ship was the end of his character and I don't think their was much else to do with him after that point. He has imparted his wisdom to his son and from here on it had to be Kal El's choices and decisions that dictated his actions. His father set him on the path but that's all he needed to do.

Michael Shannon was also perfectly utilised as his showdown with Superman particularly after losing the other Kryptonians back to the Phantom Zone was always going to be a final showdown rather than a 'until next time' sort of thing.

That's why I believe Pine as Steve Trevor was also used correctly; he showed Diana the honesty of man's world both the good and the bad. He gave her a taste of love on a personal level

[Show spoiler]and then also loss

. For me his journey in the narrative is complete but I'm no screenwriter (just a wannabe one) so a writer may have a great idea to

[Show spoiler]resurrect him

and prove me wrong entirely.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

The biggest difference between WW and First Avenger is that FA had a great supporting cast. WW supporting cast was weak and very forgettable. I didn't feel any connection to the sniper, the indian dude, or the other multi-lingual guy. The Amazons had the personality of a dead rock. In FA all the supporting characters were rich in personality.

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I preferred the WW supporting cast. Opinions eh.

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by Groot

Not really. Another major figure in a recent movie *cough -points at username- cough* didn't have his sacrifice lessened by being brought back. Bucky's "death" in TFA isn't lessened by them introducing the TWS storyline. There's always ways to make something meaningful while bringing something new to the table. Coulson's "death" in The Avengers isn't short-changed because he's brought back later. Superman "died" for the world and he's...well he's coming back too.

I can see it now. An inconsolable Diana walking around with a few pieces of Steve in a flower pot.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

I can see it now. An inconsolable Diana walking around with a few pieces of Steve in a flower pot.

There's a joke about planting a seed in there but I'm not gonna say it cause I'm a lady.

[partridge]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Steve Rogers had great chemistry with Peggy carter too in first film. Look how she got pushed to the side in the sequels.

"pushed aside"?? She was an old woman in a nursing home in TWS (a very emotional, moving scene) and died in CW. What kind of chemistry did you expect to see?

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Steve Rogers had great chemistry with Peggy carter too in first film. Look how she got pushed to the side in the sequels.

By pushed aside do you mean having her own TV show?

[Rodney-2187]

Am I the only one who thought Chief would turn out to be Apache Chief from the Superfriends?

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by partridge

"pushed aside"?? She was an old woman in a nursing home in TWS (a very emotional, moving scene) and died in CW. What kind of chemistry did you expect to see?

Obviously he's into Granny porn x

[Blu Bull]

I haven't seen this in a week now, and it was a late showing, so I may have dozed off here and there, and maybe I'm playing a bit of devil's advocate, but if you were to change the name of this movie to Super Spy, couldn't this be more a movie about Steve Trevor than Wonder Woman? I mean i get at the beginning we learn about kid Diana, but once Steve shows up doesn't it really follow his story? He starts by saving Diana, then saves the world. All Wonder Woman really does is take care of Ares, who wasn't really a threat. I mean wars happen after he's defeated right?

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by levcore

I preferred the WW supporting cast. Opinions eh.

Please elaborate. They all had 0 personality. Look at the WW2 soldiers in First Avenger, they all brought something interesting to the movie

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[levcore]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Please elaborate. They all had 0 personality. Look at the WW2 soldiers in First Avenger, they all brought something interesting to the movie

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I just liked them a bit more and I disagree that the ones in First Avenger had more development, I feel it was about equal. I think I prefer the actors in WW too.

[DarkEco910]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Please elaborate. They all had 0 personality. Look at the WW2 soldiers in First Avenger, they all brought something interesting to the movie

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They're stock characters with their own sole purpose: The damaged one, the comic relief, and the serious one. What more do you need and want? It's not about them. It's about Diana and her journey tagging along with them.

And no, most of the side characters from The First Avenger were just as one-dimensional. Again, it's not about them. Gimme a break...

[jetthead]

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

Am I the only one who thought Chief would turn out to be Apache Chief from the Superfriends?

How awesome would that be!?!

[MifuneFan]

I honestly don't remember any of the side characters from First Avenger besides Peggy, and Bucky. I felt the side characters in WW were definitely more memorable. They had a goofy likeable charm to them not unlike the characters you'd find in action/adventure movies like Indiana Jones, and the (Brendan Fraser) Mummy movies.

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Vince McMahon

My original post was a response to one of your fellow bullies who compared WW to the Disney fun films. You were on this thread earlier with your ridiculous WW "Saved DCEU" nonsense. Do your "looking like a fool but you keep watching"logic apply to you and your fellow Disney "fun"boys who trash DC but still watch the films? Now stop derailing the thread and allow the forum members to discuss WW.

I wasn't the one who derailed the thread. You brought up MS just to trash them as usual but in a DC thread.

WW "saved DCEU" isn't exactly nonsense. Man of Steel was good in my eyes but after the previous two films they needed to show they could still put out a quality film. Wonder Woman was that film. I've seen numerous people who were also disappointed with BvS and hated SS but now have a more positive outlook on the future of the DCEU because of WW.

I'm not one of those who trashes the DCEU across the board like some fanboys. I just call out bad movies when I see them, regardless if it's a superhero film or not.

As for Wonder Woman, I'm looking forward to a second viewing and hopefully WB/DC keeps all their future movies similar in tone since WW hit the right marks as far as superhero films should go.

[jetthead]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I honestly don't remember any of the side characters from First Avenger besides Peggy, and Bucky. I felt the side characters in WW were definitely more memorable. They had a goofy likeable charm to them not unlike the characters you'd find in action/adventure movies like Indiana Jones, and the (Brendan Fraser) Mummy movies.

The only other one I can think of is Dum Dum Dugan, the bowler-wearing cigar-smoking guy. That group was no more memorable than the guys in WW.

[Rodney-2187]

I thought the side characters in both were very memorable.

Chief has lost everything. He has no place to really call home. Sameer wanted to be an actor but experienced racism so he put his telents to use elsewhere. Charlie used to be a cold blooded sniper, but now he has lost his nerve and no longer has what it takes for war. But all three come together to help, not because of Wonder Woman or money, but because of Steve Trevor and wanting to do what it right.

Who could forget the Howling Commandos? Dum Dum Dugan has the benefit of also being in an episode of Agent Carter and in a Marvel short, but he is just iconic to me. The other have a lot of good one liners too. "I'm from Fresno, Ace."

[Dragon Ranger]

In best Morpheus voice....

'What if i told you that you can enjoy both or just one of Wonder Woman and Captain America without comparing them just because they are period set superhero movies.'

[Erzengel]

Originally Posted by Dragon Ranger

In best Morpheus voice....

'What if i told you that you can enjoy both or just one of Wonder Woman and Captain America without comparing them just because they are period set superhero movies.'

BvS and CW
SS and GOTG
WW and CA/Thor

Be prepared for JL and Avengers

[Dragon Ranger]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

BvS and CW
SS and GOTG
WW and CA/Thor

Be prepared for JL and Avengers

I wonder if the people who run this site can introduce a block function for endlessly comparative comments