It (2017)

[Todd Tomorrow]

Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

Umm, cause it is?


Maybe you just don't know how to have with movies?

Maybe you just don't know English.

[SarahS]

Originally Posted by Todd Tomorrow

It's reputation comes from people having seen this when they were impressionable kids and it's purely down to nostalgia. Apart from Tim Curry "It" is indeed pretty poor. I find that people who were kids in the 80s and 90s kling on to their childhood impressions far more than earlier generations. This also explains why The Goonies, a film every adult who was forced to see it at the time found totally unbearable, apparently now is a classic.

Yes I was an impressionable 25 year old in 1990....�� It holds up better than Salems Lot which I loved in 1979 but it's god awful now. The Stand is not much better and has worse acting than IT! Nobody is dogging the new IT, all we are wondering is if they can pull off a really good Pennywise as Curry was amazing. Oh I was also 20 when the Goonies came out and it was awful then and it's still awful today.

[Prog5000]

I saw IT when I was 28 or so and couldn't fathom why my gf or friends said it scared the bejesus out of them.

I came to the conclusion that it's an age thing. My gf saw it before she hit double digits and it left a mark. When she watched it again with me she laughed all the way through. It has not aged well but the new one looks good.

[CrazyBlu-RayFan]

Originally Posted by SarahS

Oh I was also 20 when the Goonies came out and it was awful then and it's still awful today.

I watched it when I got the Blu-ray triple feature with it and the two Gremlins movies. And it sucks so much, honestly, films that have been inspired by Goonies did it better than the actual Goonies film did. Super 8 and Stranger Things are way better than Goonies.

[javy]

I was 8 in 1990 when I first seen It. The movie haunted me. I remember going to bed after it was over and seeing things in the dark. I watched it again in my early teens and it was still good, I didn't really notice any cheese and Pennywise was still cool. I bought the DVD like 4 or 5 years ago and was like wtf? Pennywise was still cool, but the cheese, lmao. I still went ahead and bought the blu-ray when it came out, because, you know, it's It.

The first time I seen The Goonies I was also 8. What a timeless classic that never gets old and always stays fresh. My kids love it too.

My eyes produce a salty watery substance every time it gets to this scene:

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[dallywhitty]

I'll always like the mini-series as it perhaps singlehandedly spawned my love of both Stephen King and horror in general. I've seen it multiple times - hell, I was up till three this morning watching it. That said, it's not a great adaptation of the book, and its flaws become more apparent the older I get. There are people who put it on a pedestal, and then there are people who think it's horrendous. I think the truth exists somewhere in between.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by javy

I was 8 in 1990 when I first seen It. The movie haunted me. I remember going to bed after it was over and seeing things in the dark. I watched it again in my early teens and it was still good, I didn't really notice any cheese and Pennywise was still cool. I bought the DVD like 4 or 5 years ago and was like wtf? Pennywise was still cool, but the cheese, lmao. I still went ahead and bought the blu-ray when it came out, because, you know, it's It.

The first time I seen The Goonies I was also 8. What a timeless classic that never gets old and always stays fresh. My kids love it too.

My eyes produce a salty watery substance every time it gets to this scene:

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This and that vampire kid tapping on the window in Salem's lot!

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by MJD64

I'll be going into this pretty blind as I've never read the King novel or seen the 1990 mini-series but I can't imagine a nearly 30-year-old network offering besting an R-rated big-screen attempt.

Then again, the 1979 Salem's Lot completely buries the 2004 version, even with elaborate special-effects and more relaxed restrictions on horror and violence.

I always look at the TV version as one of those horror movies that didn't necessarily need to be R rated or have shock value to be effective. Kind of like how the kids series Are You Afraid of the Dark could creep you out without being overly violent.

[tob]

Originally Posted by Troll2fan

No it doesn't. The overall quality of the movie is more important. Many people won't give the new Pennywise a fair shake because they've already made up their mind that no one can match Curry's performance and it's silly.



Maybe he won't, but I'm at least willing to give him a chance rather than letting nostalgia cloud my judgment.

Not nostalgia just a performance that be hard to follow don't you think.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by Todd Tomorrow

It's reputation comes from people having seen this when they were impressionable kids and it's purely down to nostalgia. Apart from Tim Curry "It" is indeed pretty poor. I find that people who were kids in the 80s and 90s kling on to their childhood impressions far more than earlier generations. This also explains why The Goonies, a film every adult who was forced to see it at the time found totally unbearable, apparently now is a classic.

Funny, even as a kid I thought Goonies was tripe!

I am shocked it is as highly regarded it is.

[MJD64]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

I always look at the TV version as one of those horror movies that didn't necessarily need to be R rated or have shock value to be effective. Kind of like how the kids series Are You Afraid of the Dark could creep you out without being overly violent.

I agree with you that a film need not be especially violent or horrific to be effective. I've extolled the virtues of several PG-13 horror films being more chilling than many of their R-rated competition. As I posted, I've not seen the mini-series nor read the book but as someone who read a lot of King's early novels, I couldn't imagine most of them being done as PG films or watered down TV adaptations. It all depends on the material, and from what I've heard from friends who have read the book, it sounds as if an R-rated film would best convey King's intentions (and some have ventured that even with a restricted rating, there are elements of it that will never make it to the screen).

[tob]

Originally Posted by Impossible

Funny, even as a kid I thought Goonies was tripe!

I am shocked it is as highly regarded it is.

[javy]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

This and that vampire kid tapping on the window in Salem's lot!

Dude, please don't hate me now but, I've never seen Salem's Lot. I'll facepalm my own self for that one.

[dallywhitty]

I've only seen about half an hour of The Goonies...

Strangely enough, I own it on LaserDisc.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by tob

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I've only seen about half an hour of The Goonies...

Yes because Daddy made you turn it off cos it's shite x

[tob]

Originally Posted by Impossible

Sorry but wrong.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by tob

Sorry but wrong.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by javy

Dude, please don't hate me now but, I've never seen Salem's Lot. I'll facepalm my own self for that one.

Salem's Lot > The Stand > It.

Strangely it's the opposite way round if we're talking about the novels.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Salem's Lot > The Stand > It.

Strangely it's the opposite way round if we're talking about the novels.

Agreed, The Stand was horrible too. While Salems Lot has dated horribly as well at least it's still watchable.

It and The Stand have both got great premises, but are totally ruined by terrible endings.