Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015) - Page 47 - Blu-ray Forum

bradnoyes · 03-23-2018, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hah! I like Suicide Squad.

Well we've all got those skeletons in the closet.

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jobalexang · 03-23-2018, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Some other sources are mentioning that the first three are using "recent" 4k scans from the OCN's. Of course, they didn't bother re-rendering the older digital effects files and re-comp those shots, so all effects shots will probably look softer due to the computer print-out-to-film technologies of the time. Those effects scenes were spliced back into the master elements.

DTS: X remixes, but unfortunately not Dolby Atmos.

I suppose I wouldn't mind that, as it kinda preserves the "from it's time" feel of the master print? if that makes sense.

Riddhi2011 · 03-23-2018, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Optical effect, digital effect, doesn't matter: if it had to be output back to film then some degree of degradation occurs somewhere. Par for the course.

And it shows on the 35mm release prints themselves. The VFX portions always look softer compared to live action photography. I've seen it myself. Now, it is also necessary to point out that we are comparing paused frames from the films on a computer. In a cinema, with film projection, these things would be less obvious and would blend well with rest of the elements.

It is not for nothing that many people still hail JP as having the most realistic and believable CG animals on film, till date. ILM was still a lab filled with crazy, dedicated artists who wanted to create magic; who wanted to push the limits of realism. It wasn't an industry with too many tools and people at their disposal, as it is today. This is perhaps why despite better technology, the CGI of today feel artificial, for the most part. You need dedicated, passionate artists, not tech geniuses.

s_har · 03-23-2018, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

It is not for nothing that many people still hail JP as having the most realistic and believable CG animals on film, till date.

I certainly agree with this. I'm very impressed how well the CG dinosaurs of JP still holds up even today.

admiral_akbar · 03-23-2018, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Blame user "admiral_akbar" he submitted that fake info. He's also wrong at the audio details.

I didn’t add any of those details. They were already present on the previous release, from the ‘parent’ data.

EDIT: I have removed the audio specs from the 4K releases until they are confirmed.

Geoff D · 03-23-2018, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by admiral_akbar

I didn’t add any of those details. They were already present on the previous release, from the ‘parent’ data.

So much of the stuff that people take as gospel is placeholder info carried over from the previous release. Until these discs get released then we don't know for sure on those specs, so people should take database info with a pinch of salt until it can be confirmed by folks who have the disc in hand.

PeterTHX · 03-23-2018, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

This is perhaps why despite better technology, the CGI of today feel artificial, for the most part. You need dedicated, passionate artists, not tech geniuses.

Reality is most CG of today is invisible and undetectable.

bradnoyes · 03-23-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Reality is most CG of today is invisible and undetectable.

It's made huge leaps, for sure. I was a big CGI-hater from the late 90's to mid 00's but I've since come around. Even some older stuff like Starship Troopers has really stood up well on UHD.

Not to say there aren't some stinkers--the CGI in Justice League and IT really took me out of those films--but by and large I don't find it to be the distraction I once did.

geomon · 03-23-2018, 04:10 PM

Did anybody else have their preorder from Amazon canceled? I just got the notice today, "due to a lack of availability."

imsounoriginal · 03-23-2018, 04:13 PM

It sucks that they're cancelling orders, but silver lining if I may? It's great that a 4K boxset is getting pre-ordered in such high quantities that Amazon has apparently run out.

bradnoyes · 03-23-2018, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by geomon

Did anybody else have their preorder from Amazon canceled? I just got the notice today, "due to a lack of availability."

Yikes. When did you order, if you don’t mind me asking?

Guvnagrover · 03-23-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Yikes. When did you order, if you don’t mind me asking?

Mine was cancelled today - I had pre-ordered it on 3/1.

HiDefBer · 03-23-2018, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

It sucks that they're cancelling orders, but silver lining if I may? It's great that a 4K boxset is getting pre-ordered in such high quantities that Amazon has apparently run out.

I politely disagree with this conclusion. It's been my experience that Amazon cancels preorders because of a substantial error, such as mispricing or a major change in the product itself.

rbg08 · 03-23-2018, 05:15 PM

My order hasn't been cancelled yet. Pre-ordered on 3/1. Crossing my fingers that it doesn't get cancelled since I used a -$15 Chase promo code that expired on 3/15. My current locked in price is only $44.27.

Jlouisbarrett · 03-23-2018, 05:21 PM

Ugh I really hope it’s not a pricing error cancellation... $59 and change is a great deal.

geomon · 03-23-2018, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Yikes. When did you order, if you don’t mind me asking?

I'm pretty sure it was the day the preorder went up because I check this site everyday for new preorders.

I've reordered it and we'll see if that holds up.

tyrok · 03-23-2018, 06:36 PM

Have you guys ever watched the credits for a $150-200 million dollar movie? Some of them use upwards of 20-25 different CG companies. Gotta be hard to keep the quality consistent when you are using that many and the movie has a release date that was set in stone years ago.

Geoff D · 03-23-2018, 07:27 PM

Yeah, that's got a lot to do with the varying quality of it these days, and ALSO why it isn't all done in 4K for movies. When you've got one main vendor then they can tailor their pipelines appropriately but when you're dealing with a stack of different outfits ranging from god-tier to bargain basement then it's a lot harder to get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.

Member-222782 · 03-23-2018, 08:12 PM

I got the cancellation email as well. So this set has been postponed?

RalphoR · 03-23-2018, 08:29 PM

Can't jump to any concrete conclusion but it's an interesting development.

03-23-2018, 04:10 PM	#929
geomon Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Miami, FL 4K collection:483 Blu-ray collection:1223 DVD collection:6 Trading Score:53	Did anybody else have their preorder from Amazon canceled? I just got the notice today, "due to a lack of availability."

03-23-2018, 04:13 PM	#930
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:322 Blu-ray collection:950 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	It sucks that they're cancelling orders, but silver lining if I may? It's great that a 4K boxset is getting pre-ordered in such high quantities that Amazon has apparently run out.

03-23-2018, 05:15 PM	#934
rbg08 Special Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:354 Blu-ray collection:628 DVD collection:23 MA collection:333 Digital collection:288 iTunes collection:364 Trading Score:22	My order hasn't been cancelled yet. Pre-ordered on 3/1. Crossing my fingers that it doesn't get cancelled since I used a -$15 Chase promo code that expired on 3/15. My current locked in price is only $44.27.

03-23-2018, 05:21 PM	#935
Jlouisbarrett Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2015 Location:The 5th Dimension	Ugh I really hope it’s not a pricing error cancellation... $59 and change is a great deal.

03-23-2018, 06:36 PM	#937
tyrok Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:1750 Blu-ray collection:1750	Have you guys ever watched the credits for a $150-200 million dollar movie? Some of them use upwards of 20-25 different CG companies. Gotta be hard to keep the quality consistent when you are using that many and the movie has a release date that was set in stone years ago.

03-23-2018, 07:27 PM	#938
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1350 Blu-ray collection:2527 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Yeah, that's got a lot to do with the varying quality of it these days, and ALSO why it isn't all done in 4K for movies. When you've got one main vendor then they can tailor their pipelines appropriately but when you're dealing with a stack of different outfits ranging from god-tier to bargain basement then it's a lot harder to get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.

03-23-2018, 08:12 PM	#939
Member-222782 Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:645 Blu-ray collection:4556 DVD collection:474 Trading Score:140	I got the cancellation email as well. So this set has been postponed?

03-23-2018, 08:29 PM	#940
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	Can't jump to any concrete conclusion but it's an interesting development.

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