Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[pawel86ck]

Originally Posted by SynViks

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"Have we been DN-uh-R'ed?"

"No, no, no, we have no DNR on us, no. Just the miracle of reasonable grain management in Jurassic Park."

JP 1 on UHD looks great because there is still grain visible but without any dobuts it would look even better with a little bit less DNR
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/114144
The same with JP2 TLW.

[evildrumsticks]

Originally Posted by gates70

Wow, without a hitch hey ? So funny how it works out for different people. They ended up giving me a $15 promo credit lol

They also gave me a $15 promo credit. One time only. Lol.

[mzupeman]

Go figure. Even my steelbook set had a couple scratches. Good news is that theyre small and don’t move in the direction of the laser. They’ll likely play fine. Only one if Lost World and the other on Jurassic World. Jurassic Parks 1 and 3 are fine.

Going to email Universal about getting those two replaced.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Just got mine out of the mail, packaging looks great. Probably gonna watch World tonight.



Yeah mine was stuck in between the last couple of disc sleeves/pages.

Mine was in that location as well. No movie cash from Amazon but it wasn't advertised so I'm not too worried about it.

[SynViks]

Originally Posted by pawel86ck

JP 1 on UHD looks great because there is still grain visible but without any dobuts it would look even better with a little bit less DNR
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/114144
The same with JP2 TLW.

How is there not enough grain in that JP2 screen? The grain looks beautiful; adding a filmic texture to the image whilst not appearing noisy or distracting.

[jh901]

Oh Wow!

Few moments into JP1. Sound! Image! 92" diag of glory.

Is this 1.85 achieved by blowing up top/bottom blocked 35mm 4:3 frame?

And the 7.1. Disney. Shame on you. Seriously.

[pawel86ck]

Originally Posted by SynViks

How is there not enough grain in that JP2 screen? The grain looks beautiful; adding a filmic texture to the image whilst not appearing noisy or distracting.

Yes, transfers still looks very good (clear upgrade over BD, no doubts about it) but I would prefer to see more sharper grain (for example like in SPR). In JP 1-3 movies DNR is clearly used, but thank god not to the extreme (like terminator 2).

[Algeron]

I bought the original JP trilogy when it was released on BR and I used all the digital codes then. According to Movies Anywhere, they are all flagged as an SD version, but my iTunes flags the downloads as HD. Based on that, should I redeem the codes from my 4k set, or is that pointless?

[Petar]

Hi guys,
i've pre-ordered my collection few week ago from Amazon and it was shipped yesterday.Since I'm not in U.S. (unfortunately)i will get my collection in next 2-3 weeks.
I have 65'' 4K HDR TV and i ordered some cheap refurbished 4K player of eBay.
I have incredible luck to own original movie prop from first Jurassic Park,which is Velociraptor Claw/w partial finger.
Since i first time heard they are releasing JP in 4K,I've been patiently waited for it to arrive in my home.
Since you guys got it today,i would appreciate if you could tell me,are the part with raptors much more clearly then 1080p or is it just a bit better?
I want to screen match that prop,but i read AV review and they said that JP has slightly clearly resolution then 1080p version-is that true?

Kind regards,
Petar

[sudbury78]

I find it dumb the movie cash is in the wrapper and not an insert inside the box. So instead if losing it I tried to redeem the cash now. The website doesn’t work. Oddly when I finish the web address is defaults to famdengo. Not kidding. Wtf.

[SynViks]

Originally Posted by pawel86ck

Yes, transfers still looks very good (clear upgrade over BD, no doubts about it) but I would prefer to see more sharper grain (for example like in SPR). In JP 1-3 movies DNR is clearly used, but thank god not to the extreme (like terminator 2).

... you do realize SPR was chemically processed in a way such that the grain is much more apparent vs your average film?

... you also realize that JP1 was shot with modern, fine grain film stock such that the grain isn't supposed to be super prominent?

Just because the grain isn't what you think it should be doesn't mean it was DNRed. DNR is a T2, Patton, BTTF, Star Trek 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 type of situation. This isn't that.

[cobravenomous]

Originally Posted by evildrumsticks

They also gave me a $15 promo credit. One time only. Lol.

I paid $68 Canadian plus tax when I ordered this 4K edition a number of months ago so I called Amazon.ca noting it now sells for $49.99. They were concerned whether I purchased it directly from Amazon or from a third party, but once confirmed that it was direct from Amazon, they applied almost a $20 dollar refund to my credit card........no issues at all.

Thanks for the head up!

Cobra

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

What I don't get is, if they're going to leave this much grain anyway, why even bother removing any of it in the first place? Same with "managing" the grain on opticals and VFX shots to the point where they have much less apparent grain than the rest...

Levelling out the grain in the opticals has become quite a common thing in recent years, yeah. I get why they do it, it's just that - as you rightly say - they now become a distraction for the exact opposite reason, looking far too soft and smudgy instead of heavily grainy (see also Grease)...as was just picked up on by the poster who enquired about the Dodgson shot, despite not having an advanced degree in nitpicking from Armchair Expert Night School like myself.

That's the worst of the treatment meted out to the opticals in JP1 IMO, the others don't look quite as bad as that thankfully. Still "managed", like the bulk of the movie in general, but not as Vaseline smeary as that one.

Originally Posted by SynViks

How is there not enough grain in that JP2 screen? The grain looks beautiful; adding a filmic texture to the image whilst not appearing noisy or distracting.

Yep. My feelings on JP1 are clear but TLW is gorgeous for da grain from virtually start to finish.

[Jodi]

Can any of you please provide some pics of the JP/JW box sets? I really don't want to go with the steelbook set, but would like to see how the discs are set up in the box.

Would also like to know if any of you have had any negative experiences with the packaging and, more importantly, the discs (hopefully not getting scratched up).

I think most, if not all of you, have not had any major horror stories with this JP/JW set a la "The Mummy" Ultimate Trilogy set.

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by SynViks

Generally the goal is to help the grain feel consistent

Yeah, but in the case of opticals/VFX they usually go too far so the grain is no longer consistent anyway, except now it's in the other direction. Plus by removing so much they just make the mismatch in sharpness and detail more apparent.

And despite Universal's effort the grain varies wildly in Jurassic Park. They've just taken the top off it across the board so there's not much of any matching going on. And certainly the brighter exteriors would not have any detail-obscuring grain necessitating DNR. Universal are simply grain haters (at the very least dislikers.)

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

Yeah, but in the case of opticals/VFX they usually go too far so the grain is no longer consistent anyway, except now it's in the other direction. Plus by removing so much they just make the mismatch in sharpness and detail more apparent.

And despite Universal's effort the grain varies wildly in Jurassic Park. They've just taken the top off it across the board so there's not much of any matching going on. And certainly the brighter exteriors would not have any detail-obscuring grain necessitating DNR. Universal are simply grain haters (at the very least dislikers.)

Nice, that's exactly what I thought happened to JP1. Some extra-special consideration has been meted out to certain shots but clearly they've set the "management" at a level which basically kills the grain in the bright exteriors/interiors but because the darker scenes are grainier by default this blanket level of filtration lets more of it through, like the "are they auto...erotica?" cap posted upthread.

[brainofj72]

Originally Posted by SynViks

... the above picture doesn't have enough grain for you?

I can't say for sure yet because I haven't watched the disc and screenshots aren't super reliable, but based strictly on screenshots? Nope. Absolutely not.

[Fakejb]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

There MUST be a defense.

it's like JW.

[Show spoiler]the irex wouldnt have escaped it claire just called the control room from the irex paddock to gps locate it. instead people are sent in and she makes the call from her product placed mercedes on the way to the control room. whole scene was written for product placement really.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Fakejb

it's like JW.

[Show spoiler]the irex wouldnt have escaped it claire just called the control room from the irex paddock to gps locate it. instead people are sent in and she makes the call from her product placed mercedes on the way to the control room. whole scene was written for product placement really.

By that logic, that would mean that every scene with the Jurassic Park tour vehicle in the original movie was an ad for Ford Explorer. Would you rather see a movie where every product is some faux rip-off of everyday brands? THAT would be unrealistic. Product advertising is so ingrained in our culture that you almost don't notice it in movies because it's normal to us. It's fake rip-off brands that would stick out and look weird. Not saying that's a good thing, but don't blame the movies for it, blame us consumers.

[buckeye1]

Originally Posted by jh901

Oh Wow!

Few moments into JP1. Sound! Image! 92" diag of glory.

Is this 1.85 achieved by blowing up top/bottom blocked 35mm 4:3 frame?

And the 7.1. Disney. Shame on you. Seriously.

Does it sound that good?