The Hunt for Red October 4K UHD (1990)

[punisher]

Originally Posted by 1924

Blu ray can look great. 4k honestly is only a big upgrade if it’s a new scan from the camera negative

it's the only way to get a true 4K presentation. However some of the upconverts are stunning. Does make you wonder how much better they could look too.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by tama

And it's silly comments such as this.....

Those who are truly content with Blu-ray wouldn't be the UHD subforum trying to convince others (or themselves really) that it's an unnecessary upgrade.

This has been happening a lot lately. Some people know deep down that UHD BD is an overall big upgrade, but they have to rationalize it and diminish it because they don't want to spend the money on the necessary gear. In their minds Blu-ray was going to be the last and best format forever. And now it's not so it's a big kick in the balls to them.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by tama

Nothing wrong with asking. But understand that in a vast majority of cases you're not getting them. And all the arm crossing and complaining won't change that. That's just the writing on the wall.

Yeah I get that but they are leaving money on the table. Look how many people are willing to buy a 4K combo pack if the bluray was a new master.

Originally Posted by Patsfan123

There's nothing stopping people from buying a UHD player and using it on a HDTV.. just make sure to get one with high marks on SDR conversion.. It's really not that much money.

I thought about doing this but yeah, that SDR conversion.

Would be better if studios did what Shout does and have both HDR and SDR options.

Originally Posted by punisher

I only upgraded because I needed a new tv for BR. I was looking at a Sony LED for 1050, then the crazy sale happened Memorial day and I got an LG C7 for 1149 delivered.When fed properly it is amazing. For normal every day viewing it's online with a good plasma. having the ability to upconvert my favorite BDs is a big plus, especially with the OPPO 203 and it's DV output ability.Still, a KURO is a part of history so hang on to it as long as you can.

There were a few sales for OLED's that I thought about getting but passed on. I'm just not ready for a new TV yet.

Of course even when I do get a 4K TV I won't be selling the kuro. It'll just be put in another room. Can't get rid of this silky organic plasma picture.


Anyway I think this argument has run it's course. Just note that the exact same thing happens in the bluray forum whenever these smaller and independent labels announces a 4K scan of a catalogue title.

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

There were just as many on home theater sites saying DVD was good enough and BD was unnecessary back in the day. Most of them eventually changed their minds as prices went down. That's all the resistance to UHD is about right now, people with good 1080p equipment and large movie collections who don't want to spend lots of money to upgrade. A way for them to feel better about being temporarily "left behind" is to act like the upgrade is meaningless or very minor.

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

This has been happening a lot lately. Some people know deep down that UHD BD is an overall big upgrade, but they have to rationalize it and diminish it because they don't want to spend the money on the necessary gear. In their minds Blu-ray was going to be the last and best format forever. And now it's not so it's a big kick in the balls to them.

Yep, it doesn't amount to much anything more than that. It's all about pricing, the new barrier to entry, and the cost already spent on past equipment.

Originally Posted by saprano

I wouldn't make that comparison as I already explained.


And what a way certain people are being dismissive of others who don't want to buy UHD yet. It absolutely has nothing to do with feeling "left behind" or "acting like there's no difference." People like me genuinely feel the cost is not worth it yet vs what they already have. Bluray still being a relevant format with regards to picture quality helps with this. No matter how many times you want to compare the situation with DVD it's just not the same.

I can run out right now and go buy a 4K OLED. I don't have any other expenses like kids or a SO to worry about. I seriously do not feel like it at moment. The picture on my TV more than satisfies me. That wasn't the case with DVD. With my lowly 4:3 27" SD TV. You're gonna make that comparison? Really?

So until then we are going to keep asking for newly mastered blurays. There's nothing wrong with that.

See you basically agree. It's about cost and that's about it. The extra visual fidelity is not very important to you and you can't justify the cost.

And finally, no one is being dismissive of you. You are on OUR subforum. The one for 4K UHD discussion. If anything, it is you that is being dismissive of the on-topic discussions around here.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by vincentric

Nothing much to add here; pretty much agree with those who think THfRO is lookin good on UHD, checked it out in DV on the 930e and didn't notice any major pq anomalies but wasn't watching closely for any.

Want some Crimson Tide on UHD now but Disney catalog so probably never.

Dude, I was thinking about that just yesterday. All that '90's action goodness that lives with Disney like The Rock, Con Air, Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State, Armageddon etc is just sitting there doing **** all. Boo. Boo-urns!

[Doctorossi]

Crimson Shmide. If you want great sub fare on UHD (and you do!), it's time for Das Boot, baby!

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

All that '90's action goodness that lives with Disney like The Rock, Con Air, Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State, Armageddon etc is just sitting there doing **** all. Boo. Boo-urns!

Awww. Totally forgot about that. Now i'm sad.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dude, I was thinking about that just yesterday. All that '90's action goodness that lives with Disney like The Rock, Con Air, Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State, Armageddon etc is just sitting there doing **** all. Boo. Boo-urns!

We ain't getting none of dem Disney spin off studios

[fighthefutureofhd]

Oh, we'll get them. Disney will probably do one big dump release like they did with all their 90's/00's animated movies just a short few months before the streaming service hits. However, unlike those animated movies these will disappear into the vault once the streaming service comes out and we won't be able to see it unless it's on their streaming hub. Then what 4K UHD's are remaining in circulation will sell for exorbitant amounts of money online.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

We ain't getting none of dem Disney spin off studios

It's a pity Bruckheimer can't take 'em elsewere, if only just to distribute on 4K.

[Vangeli]

We got The Prestige because of Warner and the Nolan Collection, maybe there could be a Bruckheimer collection...

Ugh that National Treasure theme is still stuck in my head

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by 1924

Blu ray can look great. 4k honestly is only a big upgrade if it’s a new scan from the camera negative

That's the same with blu-ray, so nothing new there.

[define]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

like they did with all their 90's/00's animated movies just a short few months before the streaming service hits.

wait when did that happen?

[ROSS.T.G.]

I’m most saddest about the Colour of Money and Tombstone.

[vincentric]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dude, I was thinking about that just yesterday. All that '90's action goodness that lives with Disney like The Rock, Con Air, Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State, Armageddon etc is just sitting there doing **** all. Boo. Boo-urns!

simpson/bruckheimer/scott I'd kill for all those right now along with some QT Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Kill Bill goodness.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

I’m most saddest about the Colour of Money and Tombstone.

I would really like to see Tombstone.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I would really like to see Tombstone.

Along with both cuts.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's a pity Bruckheimer can't take 'em elsewere, if only just to distribute on 4K.

Not with the contract they signed.

[punisher]

here's a look at the original SBD..up converted to 4K and DV on my LG C7

not bad at all and the same soundtrack as the 4K disc..

[JimDiGriz]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dude, I was thinking about that just yesterday. All that '90's action goodness that lives with Disney like The Rock, Con Air, Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State, Armageddon etc is just sitting there doing **** all. Boo. Boo-urns!

Hmmm not too much goodness there apart from Crimson Tide and Con Air (for a laugh) really!