The Hunt for Red October 4K UHD (1990) - Page 13 - Blu-ray Forum

imsounoriginal · 08-30-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dude, I was thinking about that just yesterday. All that '90's action goodness that lives with Disney like The Rock, Con Air, Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State, Armageddon etc is just sitting there doing **** all. Boo. Boo-urns!

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Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

Hmmm not too much goodness there apart from Crimson Tide and Con Air (for a laugh) really!

The Rock is a masterpiece, how dare you.

fighthefutureofhd · 08-30-2018, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by define

wait when did that happen?

That's been several years ago. I think it was around 2012-2013 perhaps. Most of the 90's/00's animated films that aren't considered part of their signature collection are still available on Blu-ray as well. Except for Fantasia 2000. I think that might be part of their signature collection now, as they seem to bundle it with Fantasia. I would love to see the original IMAX Fantasia 2000 on 4k UHD with a Dolby Atmos mix done well. It's the only way to reproduce the IMAX sound this movie had.

StingingVelvet · 08-30-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by punisher

here's a look at the original SBD..up converted to 4K and DV on my LG C7

not bad at all and the same soundtrack as the 4K disc..

Those artificial HDR processing modes look terrible in my experience, and more importantly mess with the intended presentation.

punisher · 08-31-2018, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Those artificial HDR processing modes look terrible in my experience, and more importantly mess with the intended presentation.

Doctorossi · 08-31-2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by punisher

He’s not wrong, though.

punisher · 08-31-2018, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

He’s not wrong, though.

most 4k UHDs are up conversion..so using the up conversion on an Oppo 203 with Dolby Vision on SBDs is frowned upon..LOL Now if you are talking soap opera effects from the tv, then yes, but a 4K release with no improvement in sound and mediocre at best reviews save your money and take advantage of what you gear can do.

if you have a budget tv and player don't critcize others. If you have a better tv and an OPPO 203 you know what I am talking about.

Doctorossi · 08-31-2018, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by punisher

most 4k UHDs are up conversion..so using the up conversion on an Oppo 203 with Dolby Vision on SBDs is frowned upon..LOL Now if you are talking soap opera effects from the tv, then yes, but a 4K release with no improvement in sound and mediocre at best reviews save your money and take advantage of what you gear can do.

if you have a budget tv and player don't critcize others. If you have a better tv and an OPPO 203 you know what I am talking about.

Read his post again- those functions aren't what he was talking about.

newtonp01 · 08-31-2018, 02:18 PM

Most UHD's are an upconversion only in terms of detail - HDR is always done as a regrade. The more successful ones use higher-bit sources but regrading for HDR is fundamentally different than SDR.

You can check my signature and see my gear for yourself.

punisher · 08-31-2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Read his post again- those functions aren't what he was talking about.

well he did quote me and respond to what I posted..so what you are saying is his response had absolutely nothing to do with my post.This guy goes from thread to thread stirring the pot.

punisher · 08-31-2018, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by newtonp01

Most UHD's are an upconversion only in terms of detail - HDR is always done as a regrade. The more successful ones use higher-bit sources but regrading for HDR is fundamentally different than SDR.

You can check my signature and see my gear for yourself.

true but my post was about a not too good release and how the SBD can be competitive with it when using an OPPO 203.The sound is the same on both discs, no upgrade in that department.

StingingVelvet · 08-31-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by punisher

true but my post was about a not too good release and how the SBD can be competitive with it when using an OPPO 203.The sound is the same on both discs, no upgrade in that department.

I'll refrain from judging the Oppo's "add HDR to SDR" mode further. I know it's a terrible processing mode on my gear, and that processing modes in general are considered bad, but hey who knows I guess. I haven't seen the Oppo's in person. However I will tell you that Hunt For Red October is NOT a minor upgrade. It's a new remaster from a 4k scan of the original negative, and all the Clancy UHDs blow the BDs out of the water. There's zero chance your Oppo turns the ancient BD into UHD quality.

punisher · 08-31-2018, 10:15 PM

you would be surprised what the OPPO 203 can do connected to an OLED especially in this case where the reviews are very mixed on quality of picture.Suggest you borrow an OPPO 203 and try it yourself. Im not going to tell you it's as good as the Avengers 4K series but one on one it's close. There hasn't been one outstanding or excellent review of this disc or any of the other Ryan collection discs other than your saying so. It's a great movie. A real favorite of mine since day one yet I have no interest in this release. So what does that tell you.

ps; I have owned this movie in every format from Vhs, LD, you name it..till now.

StingingVelvet · 08-31-2018, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by punisher

you would be surprised what the OPPO 203 can do connected to an OLED especially in this case where the reviews are very mixed on quality of picture.Suggest you borrow an OPPO 203 and try it yourself. Im not going to tell you it's as good as the Avengers 4K series but one on one it's close. There hasn't been one outstanding or excellent review of this disc or any of the other Ryan collection discs other than your saying so. It's a great movie. A real favorite of mine since day one yet I have no interest in this release. So what does that tell you.

It tells me you're reading the wrong reviews and have a warped idea of what an Oppo processing mode is capable of. It can't turn an ancient master on a poor Blu-ray into a 4k OCN scan.

punisher · 08-31-2018, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It tells me you're reading the wrong reviews and have a warped idea of what an Oppo processing mode is capable of. It can't turn an ancient master on a poor Blu-ray into a 4k OCN scan.

you keep

Putting your foot in your mouth (accidentally saying something that causes embarrassment or harm)

every thread.Stop trolling. Stop stirring the pot with

responses.

StingingVelvet · 08-31-2018, 10:43 PM

Okay buddy, whatever you say.

Sean72 · 09-01-2018, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by punisher

you keep

every thread.Stop trolling. Stop stirring the pot with

responses.

No, he's right. You aren't going to take an SDR BluRay and make it look like an HDR regrade.

brainofj72 · 09-01-2018, 04:51 AM

This movie looks gorgeous in UHD. It absolutely crushes the BD in every way. It’s hilarious to suggest that upscaling the old disc is a visually comparable experience. And now we’re using reviews as a reliable reference? Come on.

Agent Kay · 09-01-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by punisher

you keep

every thread.Stop trolling. Stop stirring the pot with

responses.

You derailed it.
This is about the 4k discs.
There is a thread for the 1080p discs you can post in.

DR Herbert West · 09-01-2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by punisher

ps; I have owned this movie in every format from Vhs, LD, you name it..till now.

Your loss. It's a fantastic transfer.

Agent Kay · 09-01-2018, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Your loss. It's a fantastic transfer.

Yep, I have on the same formats and cannot wait to get this

08-31-2018, 02:18 PM	#248
newtonp01 Active Member Member since:Jun 2016 4K collection:753 Blu-ray collection:1783	Most UHD's are an upconversion only in terms of detail - HDR is always done as a regrade. The more successful ones use higher-bit sources but regrading for HDR is fundamentally different than SDR. You can check my signature and see my gear for yourself.

08-31-2018, 10:15 PM	#252
punisher Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2010 Location:MSG CHASE BRIDGE Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:223	you would be surprised what the OPPO 203 can do connected to an OLED especially in this case where the reviews are very mixed on quality of picture.Suggest you borrow an OPPO 203 and try it yourself. Im not going to tell you it's as good as the Avengers 4K series but one on one it's close. There hasn't been one outstanding or excellent review of this disc or any of the other Ryan collection discs other than your saying so. It's a great movie. A real favorite of mine since day one yet I have no interest in this release. So what does that tell you. ps; I have owned this movie in every format from Vhs, LD, you name it..till now.

08-31-2018, 10:43 PM	#255
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:852 Blu-ray collection:2331 DVD collection:111 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:69	Okay buddy, whatever you say.

09-01-2018, 04:51 AM	#257
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1039 Blu-ray collection:3617 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:150 iTunes collection:140 Trading Score:152	This movie looks gorgeous in UHD. It absolutely crushes the BD in every way. It’s hilarious to suggest that upscaling the old disc is a visually comparable experience. And now we’re using reviews as a reliable reference? Come on.

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