Pioneer To End TV Production, Spin Off DVD Development - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Croweyes1121 · 02-07-2009, 02:23 PM

It figures this would happen one generation before absolute black. ::sigh::

sokrman14 · 02-07-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Laser TV is here now, and virtually all retailers are killing RPTV. It's pretty much dead in the water.

Agreed, the future is OLED and their spinoffs.

HDTV1080P · 02-07-2009, 05:01 PM

We will know more detailed information on Thursday.

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"In a statement, Pioneer said the news reports were not based on official information from the company. It said details on restructuring measures would be unveiled Thursday when it releases earnings."

http://www.pr-inside.com/reports-pio...n-r1048109.htm

HDTV1080P · 02-07-2009, 05:18 PM

It might be 2 or 3 years before we see a flat panel display that matches or beats the picture quality of existing 9G Pioneer Plasma's. Possible in a few years future LED LCD technology with 240HZ refresh rate (10:10 pulldown) will match or beat the Pioneer as long as viewing angle problems can be solved with LCD'S.

Sonny · 02-07-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

It might be 2 or 3 years before we see a flat panel display that matches or beats the picture quality of existing 9G Pioneer Plasma's. Possible in a few years future LED LCD technology with 240HZ refresh rate (10:10 pulldown) will match or beat the Pioneer as long as viewing angle problems can be solved with LCD'S.

Atleast....

Sonny · 02-07-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Since the 70's? Which OLED technology are you talking about. They have been researching it for a while, but the tech only became feasible with the advent of nanotechnology in the 90's.

Sony themselves expect that large screen OLEDs will sell for 1.1x the price of the equivalent size LCD...

The gentalmen that invented OLED did so in the 70's & it's been R&D since, it's just been way to costly. There getting the price's down some sure , but there not going to have sub $2,000 50" OLED sets in quite a number of years. What good would a $5,000-7,000 or more 50" OLED do in this economy, not much, just like Pioneer Kuro.

dobyblue · 02-07-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

It might be 2 or 3 years before we see a flat panel display that matches or beats the picture quality of existing 9G Pioneer Plasma's. Possible in a few years future LED LCD technology with 240HZ refresh rate (10:10 pulldown) will match or beat the Pioneer as long as viewing angle problems can be solved with LCD'S.

No, the uniformity of picture will still be the #1 issue with the LED picture quality, as it is today.

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Originally Posted by naturephoto1

But unless I am mistaken, Pioneer's continued research in the area of Plasma TVs will be lost. Perhaps they will sell their technology, but will a company also take on the responsibility of employing the entire research team that has been assembled by Pioneer?

Rich

They're already using Kuro technology in the new Z-Series coming this Summer in a 54" size only. I have no doubt they will continue to utilize Pioneer's developments as well as their own - they've been partners in the PDP coalition for years and years.

Sonny · 02-07-2009, 08:45 PM

^^^Did you find anyone who has tested the upcoming Panny's yet? Pioneer's done but the 9G Kuro is still on top. I wounder how many more Gen's till others catch up? 2-3 at the very least?

quest88 · 02-08-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aheintz

Just when I was going to start saving for a nice Pioneer....

same freaking here

wafi · 02-09-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aheintz

Just when I was going to start saving for a nice Pioneer....

Ditto! I'm considering maxing my cards right now and buying the 5020FD before it disappears.

dobyblue · 02-09-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

^^^Did you find anyone who has tested the upcoming Panny's yet? Pioneer's done but the 9G Kuro is still on top. I wounder how many more Gen's till others catch up? 2-3 at the very least?

I don't think any are off the ships yet.

saprano · 02-09-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

OLED has been around since the 70's & like I said it's just no where close to being ready for consumers sets in the sizes we all love. The prices of OLED will make pioneer kuro's look like they were in the Vizio price. They have made some products that use OLED screen like picture frames that new sony phone & some other small screened products. 30+yrs of R&D & that's where there at...since the best HDTV's are now on there way out, OLED better step it up which they won't be able to even in the next 5+yrs easy, but hopefully they do. Panasonic has the ball in there court. Next week should be intresting as far as annoucements go. We will just have to wait & see what happens???

Also pioneers new BD players were/are gunna be sweet. Kuro like sounds frickin sweet , 13 picture setting or the player will auto calibrate the picture when used with the 9G!!! Oh my dreams have been crushed.

Are you serious!? thats crazy.

Oh by the way that or in my sig is going to change to an "and" i think. there's not going to be another tv like this for a long time.

Blu As Hell · 02-09-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wafi

Ditto! I'm considering maxing my cards right now and buying the 5020FD before it disappears.

I'm buying a Kuro this week, right now I'm trying to decide between the 5020FD for 2300 dollars or the PRO-111FD for 3000 dollars.

saprano · 02-09-2009, 01:24 AM

Get the elite 60".

Blu As Hell · 02-09-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by saprano

Get the elite 60".

That's a possibilty, If I can find a deal in my area. I know I've seen it online for 3600 dollars but I don't want to wait to get it (childish I know but hey I need instant gratification for some things LOL.) Unfortunately it's still running 5500 dollars around here.

xtop · 02-09-2009, 01:33 AM

i though this news was rumor? title needs a rumor tag. or did i miss that post that made this fact?

Blu As Hell · 02-09-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by xtop

i though this news was rumor? title needs a rumor tag. or did i miss that post that made this fact?

Yeah it's a rumor still, but down here in Macon we have a High-End home theater store that's running a sale on the PRO-111FD and Best Buy has been running an unadvertised sale on the 5020FD for a few weeks. That's why i'm trying to decide between the two.

saprano · 02-09-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu As Hell

That's a possibilty, If I can find a deal in my area. I know I've seen it online for 3600 dollars but I don't want to wait to get it (childish I know but hey I need instant gratification for some things LOL.) Unfortunately it's still running 5500 dollars around here.

Do you think in the coming months, or when pioneer runs out of pannels, stores will have have big sales on them?

Xtop over at AVS they seem pretty sure its true.

Blu As Hell · 02-09-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by saprano

Do you think in the coming months, or when pioneer runs out of pannels, stores will have have big sales on them?

Xtop over at AVS they seem pretty sure it true.

Oh yeah definately, but what I think will happen if this all does end up being true, is once the price drops on the elite 60" or the 6020FD you better be ready to jump on one because they are gonna go quick. The reason for that is that most stores that carries them usually don't have many in stock because they are so expensive and they just don't want them just sitting around the store, and a lot of people want them but the price is a barrier, once that barrier is gone the Kuros will disapper.

saprano · 02-09-2009, 01:49 AM

Yea im sure its going sell fast once the price drops. i'll be keeping an eye out.

I was going to probably get one anyway, but now i might have to get it sooner rather than later.

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02-07-2009, 02:23 PM	#41
Croweyes1121 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Location:Acworth, GA 4K collection:198 Blu-ray collection:548 DVD collection:113 Digital collection:373 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:32	It figures this would happen one generation before absolute black. ::sigh::

02-07-2009, 05:01 PM	#43
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	We will know more detailed information on Thursday. quote "In a statement, Pioneer said the news reports were not based on official information from the company. It said details on restructuring measures would be unveiled Thursday when it releases earnings." http://www.pr-inside.com/reports-pio...n-r1048109.htm

02-07-2009, 05:18 PM	#44
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	It might be 2 or 3 years before we see a flat panel display that matches or beats the picture quality of existing 9G Pioneer Plasma's. Possible in a few years future LED LCD technology with 240HZ refresh rate (10:10 pulldown) will match or beat the Pioneer as long as viewing angle problems can be solved with LCD'S.

02-07-2009, 08:45 PM	#48
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	^^^Did you find anyone who has tested the upcoming Panny's yet? Pioneer's done but the 9G Kuro is still on top. I wounder how many more Gen's till others catch up? 2-3 at the very least?

02-09-2009, 01:24 AM	#54
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	Get the elite 60".

02-09-2009, 01:33 AM	#56
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	i though this news was rumor? title needs a rumor tag. or did i miss that post that made this fact?

02-09-2009, 01:49 AM	#60
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	Yea im sure its going sell fast once the price drops. i'll be keeping an eye out. I was going to probably get one anyway, but now i might have to get it sooner rather than later.

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