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Old 01-31-2019, 04:05 PM   #3821
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JW is legitimately one of the five or ten worst movies I’ve ever seen, so yeah.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:07 PM   #3822
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JW is legitimately one of the five or ten worst movies I’ve ever seen, so yeah.
It's absolutely amazing compared to Fallen Kingdom
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:07 PM   #3823
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Hyperbole attack. Brainofj does critical damage.
Genuinely not being hyperbolic at all.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:07 PM   #3824
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It's absolutely amazing compared to Fallen Kingdom
They’re both godawful
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:08 PM   #3825
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It's absolutely amazing compared to Fallen Kingdom
Personally I disagree. I liked the directing more for Fallen kingdom, but I hated the script from both. I just really hate Trevorrow as a writer/director and his co-writer.
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There is a new co-writer for JW3
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:11 PM   #3827
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There is a new co-writer for JW3
But same director as Jurassic World.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:14 PM   #3828
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Genuinely not being hyperbolic at all.
If Jurassic World is one of the 5-10 worst movies you've EVER seen then you need to watch more movies.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:17 PM   #3829
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If Jurassic World is one of the 5-10 worst movies you've EVER seen then you need to watch more movies.
This is such a lazy argument; everyone always says this whenever someone names a movie they don’t think is that bad as a personal least favorite. Maybe I just value different things in movies than you do, you know? As someone who’s watched roughly 5000 movies ranging from all genres, styles, countries, and eras, I found nothing of value or pleasure or JW whatsoever. That doesn’t mean I need to watch more movies; in fact, watching a lot of movies is the REASON I hate it so much, really.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:19 PM   #3830
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This is such a lazy argument; everyone always says this whenever someone names a movie they don’t think is that bad as a personal least favorite. Maybe I just value different things in movies than you do, you know? As someone who’s watched roughly 5000 movies ranging from all genres, styles, countries, and eras, I found nothing of value or pleasure or JW whatsoever. That doesn’t mean I need to watch more movies; in fact, watching a lot of movies is the REASON I hate it so much, really.
And I think when stuff like Steele Justice or Breeders exists this is a silly argument, but whatever. Agree to disagree.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:20 PM   #3831
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And I think when stuff like Steele Justice or Breeders exists this is a silly argument, but whatever. Agree to disagree.
Fun genre trash is not what I consider all time worst material at all. So yeah, agree to disagree.
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:20 PM   #3832
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While I wouldn't say JW/FK are among the worst films ever, I do think they're both really terrible.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:02 PM   #3833
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I'll take Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom over Lost World and JPIII any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Said this before but Jurassic Park and Jurassic World are the only good movies in the franchise IMO. The other three are varying degrees of bad, but they have their moments.
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Personally I disagree. I liked the directing more for Fallen kingdom, but I hated the script from both. I just really hate Trevorrow as a writer/director and his co-writer.
Tell me the things you don't like about Fallen Kingdom.
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Old 02-01-2019, 01:19 AM   #3835
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I don’t get the hate for Jurassic World. At least from people like the other Jurassic movies. There’s really nothing wrong with it, I could see if “blockbuster dinosaur adventure movies” aren’t your thing but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Disagree. Jurassic World feels tonally weird. It's self referential/meta stuff is sooo odd. The kids and the divorce subplot is cringey. The handling of B.D Wong's character is really jarring. The main dinosaur is not as scary as even the Spinosaur (which was already a step down). The Claire character has no arc that is earned. She is wet blanket on the movie then magically turns into a heroin in the last 10 mins of the film.

I said this stuff before. So I'll just leave it at that. I haven't seen Fallen Kingdom... I heard elements of that are even more bizarre, but that it's more entertaining in a way.

I understand peoples problem with JP III, as it's average and a straight thriller with dinosaurs, but I enjoy it for the entertainment factor and Alan Grant character. They lost the adventure aspect, focusing on thriller.
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Old 02-01-2019, 02:25 AM   #3837
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Disagree. Jurassic World feels tonally weird. It's self referential/meta stuff is sooo odd. The kids and the divorce subplot is cringey. The handling of B.D Wong's character is really jarring. The main dinosaur is not as scary as even the Spinosaur (which was already a step down). The Claire character has no arc that is earned. She is wet blanket on the movie then magically turns into a heroin in the last 10 mins of the film.
I'm also not a huge fan of Jurassic World. It's not one of the worst movies ever, but I find it lacking for a lot of the same reasons you mentioned. It feels cynical in ways even LW and JPIII don't.

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I said this stuff before. So I'll just leave it at that. I haven't seen Fallen Kingdom... I heard elements of that are even more bizarre, but that it's more entertaining in a way.
Now here's where many will disagree with me. I think Fallen Kingdom is the best of the Jurassic sequels. The script is absurd, but something about the way Bayona and his team stage everything makes it work for me. I like Pratt and Howard's characters a lot better, and there seems to be more conviction from everyone involved.

The tongue-in-cheek, self-referential moments are handled with much more finesse than the ones in JW, so they're not as annoying (including one about two-thirds of the way through that seems to "get" the appeal of this franchise better than anything in the other sequels). And the way Bayona leans into the horror aesthetics actually helps sell some of the more bonkers aspects of the story.

Like I said, I seem to be one of the few people on the planet who feel this way, but you might give it a chance.

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Disagree. Jurassic World feels tonally weird. It's self referential/meta stuff is sooo odd. The kids and the divorce subplot is cringey. The handling of B.D Wong's character is really jarring. The main dinosaur is not as scary as even the Spinosaur (which was already a step down). The Claire character has no arc that is earned. She is wet blanket on the movie then magically turns into a heroin in the last 10 mins of the film.

I said this stuff before. So I'll just leave it at that. I haven't seen Fallen Kingdom... I heard elements of that are even more bizarre, but that it's more entertaining in a way.

I understand peoples problem with JP III, as it's average and a straight thriller with dinosaurs, but I enjoy it for the entertainment factor and Alan Grant character. They lost the adventure aspect, focusing on thriller.
Disagree. A lot of the stuff you complain about kind of applies to the other Jurassic movies >____>
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Don't care what anyone says but JP looks really good to me on 4K. Solid use of HDR too.
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I bought the set on amazon at black Friday, but haven't cracked it open yet. Probably will this weekend to see what JP1 looks like for myself..
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