2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[Erzengel]

He's stable. But I couldn't help but think that could have gotten him into the Hall of Fame.

[Eye Candy]

https://heavy.com/sports/2019/06/eddy-feliz-garcia/

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

He's stable. But I couldn't help but think that could have gotten him into the Hall of Fame.

He was a lock to begin with, but it almost certainly helps him get in sooner. His stats scream first ballot HOF'er - 541 HR, 1768 RBI, 6x in the top-six in AL MVP votes, Hank Aaron and Roberto Clemente award winner, 7x Silver Slugger, consistently great hitter right through his final year.

In the playoffs he was consistently great - 3x World Series champ, ALCS and World Series MVP. He hit .455 in three World Series.

The only knocks are PED use and that he was mainly a DH. These days neither is as black a mark as it used to be. Edgar Martinez (while great) didn't have a career anywhere close to that of Ortiz and he made it, even if after 10 years of waiting.

Seems like the consensus was Ortiz would probably fall a little short first ballot, making it in year 2 or 3 of eligibility before this. I think it's likely he makes it first ballot now, as he should have all along.

[Erzengel]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

He was a lock to begin with, but it almost certainly helps him get in sooner. His stats scream first ballot HOF'er - 541 HR, 1768 RBI, 6x in the top-six in AL MVP votes, Hank Aaron and Roberto Clemente award winner, 7x Silver Slugger, consistently great hitter right through his final year.

In the playoffs he was consistently great - 3x World Series champ, ALCS and World Series MVP. He hit .455 in three World Series.

The only knocks are PED use and that he was mainly a DH. These days neither is as black a mark as it used to be. Edgar Martinez (while great) didn't have a career anywhere close to that of Ortiz and he made it, even if after 10 years of waiting.

Seems like the consensus was Ortiz would probably fall a little short first ballot, making it in year 2 or 3 of eligibility before this. I think it's likely he makes it first ballot now, as he should have all along.

I have no issue with him being in. But until they let in others who haven't failed tests or admitted to it like Bonds, Clemens, then personally I think that he's on line behind them. My point he shouldn't be the first player linked to PEDs to be let in.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

I have no issue with him being in. But until they let in others who haven't failed tests or admitted to it like Bonds, Clemens, then personally I think that he's on line behind them. My point he shouldn't be the first player linked to PEDs to be let in.

Those guys will make it within a few years. SI projected Bonds and Clemens would make it in come the 2022 ballot, Ortiz 2023. It's ridiculous, but Sosa will not make it.

https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/27/ba...r-roy-halladay

[Erzengel]

We'll see. It's been almost 10 years for those guys and if they don't make it in, I'd find it hard to see them letting Ortiz in. However he is more likeable than Bonds or Clemens.

And that article isn't that accurate. Mariano did get 100% of the vote and Mussina did get in this year.

[BizCat]

Baseball Hall of Fame is a huge pile of shit.

[Samus Aran]

Interesting story about 2009 College World Series MVP Jared Mitchell, the guy drafted before Mike Trout who is now playing independent ball. Technically Randal Grichuk was drafted before Trout, but the Angels had back-to-back picks, so Mitchell becomes the answer to the trivia question.

He was drafted right before Mike Trout. He's still chasing the dream in independent baseball. | MLB - YouTube

[Samus Aran]

Matt Carpenter beats the shift.

Matt Carpenter Gets a Double off a Bunt - YouTube

[painiac]

can someone please kill my mets, not like beat them in games, but erase them from existence

[Samus Aran]

Not sure what to make of this. How viable is this plan?

The Tampa Bay Rays have received permission from the MLB executive council to explore becoming a two-team city -- start the season in Tampa, finish the season in Montreal. But they want new stadiums for both cities. Team name and playoff hosting to be determined.

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Not sure what to make of this. How viable is this plan?

The Tampa Bay Rays have received permission from the MLB executive council to explore becoming a two-team city -- start the season in Tampa, finish the season in Montreal. But they want new stadiums for both cities. Team name and playoff hosting to be determined.

Sounds pretty stupid.

[fatediesel]

That might be the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

[Bigdog]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Not sure what to make of this. How viable is this plan?

The Tampa Bay Rays have received permission from the MLB executive council to explore becoming a two-team city -- start the season in Tampa, finish the season in Montreal. But they want new stadiums for both cities. Team name and playoff hosting to be determined.

Lol, wow what a terribly brain dead idea imo.

[BizCat]

They could just build a new stadium in TAMPA

Assuming Vegas goes on as continued with the expansion team, the league would need 1 more for an even 32. Nashville, Charlotte, Columbus would be three great cities. If Montreal wants to try again, maybe explore the idea. I doubt Columbus would be taken serious as its in the middle of Cincinnati and Cleveland, despite it's continued population growth.

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Not sure what to make of this. How viable is this plan?

The Tampa Bay Rays have received permission from the MLB executive council to explore becoming a two-team city -- start the season in Tampa, finish the season in Montreal. But they want new stadiums for both cities. Team name and playoff hosting to be determined.

If Montreal has any integrity, they won't even consider rehashing this dreadful plan similar to what MLB had them go through last time. The Puerto Rico / Montreal split back in the early 2000s was an absolute disgrace.

[Retroj23]

Originally Posted by Hatter

If Montreal has any integrity, they won't even consider rehashing this dreadful plan similar to what MLB had them go through last time. The Puerto Rico / Montreal split back in the early 2000s was an absolute disgrace.

Yeah, Montreal was done bad by MLB brass. I'd be shocked if the city agreed to this.

[Samus Aran]

Your All-Star Game starters:

C: Gary Sanchez, Yankees
1B: Carlos Santana, Indians
2B: DJ LeMahieu, Yankees
SS: Jorge Polanco, Twins
3B: Alex Bregman, Astros
OF: Mike Trout, Angels
OF: George Springer, Astros
OF: Michael Brantley, Astros
DH: Hunter Pence, Rangers

C: Willson Contreras, Cubs
1B: Freddie Freeman, Braves
2B: Ketel Marte, D-backs
SS: Javier Baez, Cubs
3B: Nolan Arenado, Rockies
OF: Christian Yelich, Brewers
OF: Cody Bellinger, Dodgers
OF: Ronald Acuna Jr., Braves

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Not sure what to make of this. How viable is this plan?

The Tampa Bay Rays have received permission from the MLB executive council to explore becoming a two-team city -- start the season in Tampa, finish the season in Montreal. But they want new stadiums for both cities. Team name and playoff hosting to be determined.

Just more leverage to try to force the Tampa Bay metro to pony up for a proper stadium. Florida deserves to lose both of their teams and the Rays will be gone the moment they're able to break their lease.

[bipbop13]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Your All-Star Game starters:

C: Gary Sanchez, Yankees
1B: Carlos Santana, Indians
2B: DJ LeMahieu, Yankees
SS: Jorge Polanco, Twins
3B: Alex Bregman, Astros
OF: Mike Trout, Angels
OF: George Springer, Astros
OF: Michael Brantley, Astros
DH: Hunter Pence, Rangers

C: Willson Contreras, Cubs
1B: Freddie Freeman, Braves
2B: Ketel Marte, D-backs
SS: Javier Baez, Cubs
3B: Nolan Arenado, Rockies
OF: Christian Yelich, Brewers
OF: Cody Bellinger, Dodgers
OF: Ronald Acuna Jr., Braves

Pisses me off. J.D. Martinez gets outvoted for DH by a guy on the I.L.