Grain... How to deal with Grain...

[supersix4]

all he'd have to type in is 300 grain and on the second page 3 0f the grain threads would come up .... trolling maybe

[grip24]

Originally Posted by supersix14

all he'd have to type in is 300 grain and on the second page 3 0f the grain threads would come up .... trolling maybe

I second that ..............


THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by grip24

THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!

MADNESS THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grip24]

Originally Posted by supersix14

MADNESS THIS IS BLU-RAY.COM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah c'mon...I was setiing it up so you can say THIS IS SPARTA....

[supersix4]

lol thank god for edit

[grip24]

Originally Posted by supersix14

lol thank god for edit

[Pilam69]

another grain thread? c'mon. search the threads.

[Icemage]

To check whether it's really your TV that's the problem, go buy Chicken Little or Open Season. I own both titles, and they're both nearly flawless transfers with zero grain.

Oh, and remember to go to the Settings menu of your PS3 and change DVD Upscaling to Normal if it isn't already.

Last thing to do is to check your calibration settings on your TV. Make sure stuff like Sharpness is turned off; the edge enhancement that Sharpness settings introduce can cause noise problems on HDTV displays in complex scenes.

[ClaytonMG]

Originally Posted by Icemage

Last thing to do is to check your calibration settings on your TV. Make sure stuff like Sharpness is turned off; the edge enhancement that Sharpness settings introduce can cause noise problems on HDTV displays in complex scenes.

Well don't turn your Sharpness completely off. Just make sure you're not adding any extra sort of "enhancements" or anything like that.

[kman]

dont judge anything blu-ray can do with talladega nights that came with the ps3. That movie is the worst picture quality i have ever seen on blu

[Nathe]

Hi

I'm all new to this blu-ray and have exactly the same problem. Got a brand new sony bravia telly, fitted the ps3 with an HDMI cable and am getting a standard DVD picture.
I've currently got casino royale because i heard that it was one of the best on the market. No grain i mean.
Also got spiderman 3 and it's the same problem.
any ideas?
i'm really desperate now and Sony customer service is diabloical.

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by supersix14

MADNESS THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO

[ClaytonMG]

I don't understand why people are upset by the grain in 300.... The director had it stylized this way, purposely using 35mm and adding grain to the CG. Now, we're getting a picture pretty much identical to the master, and people don't want that? They want an altered version just so that one movie looks fake and clear on their TV? I don't get it...

[Boss Hogg]

Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

I don't understand why people are upset by the grain in 300.... The director had it stylized this way, purposely using 35mm and adding grain to the CG. Now, we're getting a picture pretty much identical to the master, and people don't want that? They want an altered version just so that one movie looks fake and clear on their TV? I don't get it...

Simple - because FAKE GRAIN LOOKS STUPID! It's the same as CGI effects that aren't quite good enough to look real - if they can't get the CGI to look real then they shouldn't include it at all. Same goes for grain in my opinion. Actually if the idiot director of 300 wanted it to look old-school he should have went the extra mile and just filmed it in black and white only.

I understand where the original poster is coming from because I went through the same thing -- got my TV and the first 2 blu-rays I played were loaded with grain and I was like "I spent almost $4000 for a picture like THIS?" Now I just don't buy grainy movies.

[Jack Torrance]

Originally Posted by Boss Hogg

Simple - because FAKE GRAIN LOOKS STUPID! It's the same as CGI effects that aren't quite good enough to look real - if they can't get the CGI to look real then they shouldn't include it at all. Same goes for grain in my opinion. Actually if the idiot director of 300 wanted it to look old-school he should have went the extra mile and just filmed it in black and white only.

I understand where the original poster is coming from because I went through the same thing -- got my TV and the first 2 blu-rays I played were loaded with grain and I was like "I spent almost $4000 for a picture like THIS?" Now I just don't buy grainy movies.

Well, adding grain via CG is a bit silly... considering he shot film, you can produce the same effect in the lab, and probably cheaper too.

[AveneL]

But, it still doesnt explain y regular DVD's would look weak also? What is the best LOOKING title on Blu Ray? I will buy it now to ck it, and I mean movies with NO GRAIN please, and is Tallladega supposed to be grainy at some parts? Thats wat mad eme see it in 300 in teh first place, and like I said , the gaming is perfect!!

Thanks everyone, and to the people pissed off bout teh 300 grain thing, I apologize, but I spent a decent amount of money and I am rightfully stressd out bout it, but I apologize if it bothers u.........

No one close this please, I need the answers.

[TaLLCaNN]

Originally Posted by AveneL

But, it still doesnt explain y regular DVD's would look weak also? What is the best LOOKING title on Blu Ray? I will buy it now to ck it, and I mean movies with NO GRAIN please, and is Tallladega supposed to be grainy at some parts? Thats wat mad eme see it in 300 in teh first place, and like I said , the gaming is perfect!!

Thanks everyone, and to the people pissed off bout teh 300 grain thing, I apologize, but I spent a decent amount of money and I am rightfully stressd out bout it, but I apologize if it bothers u.........

No one close this please, I need the answers.

Personally, I felt the same way about 300, but then i watched it on a regular dvd and its 10 times worse on regular dvd that I came to appreciate the way it looks on Blu-Ray. I have a 40" Sony 40XBR2. I have the same python HDMI cable and I use my ps3 to play the movies. So far I've only watch Apocolypto, 300, the last samurai, and pirates of the carribean on blu ray, and they all look AWESOME, with 300 being the most grainy. The other titles lived up to my expectations, which were to be honest, VERY HIGH. I'd recommend Apocolypto and The last samurai.

[Deciazulado]

You can use the high res 300 detail pic of Leonidas and club handling wolf to guide you set sharpness ;-p, the Blu-ray looks a tiny smidgen less sharp and less grainy.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by AveneL

But, it still doesnt explain y regular DVD's would look weak also? What is the best LOOKING title on Blu Ray? I will buy it now to ck it, and I mean movies with NO GRAIN please, and is Tallladega supposed to be grainy at some parts? Thats wat mad eme see it in 300 in teh first place, and like I said , the gaming is perfect!!

Thanks everyone, and to the people pissed off bout teh 300 grain thing, I apologize, but I spent a decent amount of money and I am rightfully stressd out bout it, but I apologize if it bothers u.........

No one close this please, I need the answers.

I already posted this once, but in case you missed it... TRY ANY, OR ALL, OF THESE TITLES:

Casino Royale
The Prestige
Happy Feet
Apocalypto
Flags Of Our Fathers
Training Day
Crank
The Departed
Ladder 49
Pirates Of The Caribbean (any in the series)
Resevoir Dogs
Stealth (although it's a horrible film, its PQ and AQ kick @$$)
Superman Returns
Swordfish (colouring is probably the richest I've seen)

[Jack Torrance]

I got a PS3 last November and plonked in the free Talledaga Nights blu-ray... and it was one of the worst looking transfers EVER. Then I tried out Superman Returns... and I found the transfer very soft, and the colours seemed off. I honestly thought blu-ray was for chumps at that point.

Then I saw Black Hawk Down and Kingdom of Heaven... and I was blown away. And the blu-ray transfers, with Warner being the only real exception, have consistently been more and more impressive.

To the OP... this thing about film grain has been discussed often, and I'm sorry but I really don't get it. "Grain" has been part of the filmed artform since the dawn of cinematic history. If you really don't want any grain at all, then simply put, you'll need to watch films that were shot digital and have a direct digital transfer for dvd/blu-ray.

You really should give these things a chance though, and perhaps you'll appreciate how grain can enhance the look and feel of a movie.

Personally, I love film grain myself. I remember the "French Connection"'s director of photography Owen Roizman being miffed about the most recent DVD transfer... He was not called on to supervise the transfer and most of the grain had been removed. "Do you realize how hard we worked to make it like that?! (originally)".