The Shining (1980) - Page 179 - Blu-ray Forum

BluProofie · 10-01-2019, 10:21 PM

Can’t speak for the remastered blu, but the UHD is unbelievable. I’ll never watch that old disc again.

Ray Jackson · 10-02-2019, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BluProofie

Can’t speak for the remastered blu, but the UHD is unbelievable. I’ll never watch that old disc again.

So the regular HD disc has a new transfer as well?

recS-12 · 10-02-2019, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

So the regular HD disc has a new transfer as well?

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-S...238513/#Review

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BluProofie · 10-02-2019, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

So the regular HD disc has a new transfer as well?

Yes, it’s the 4K restoration. Have only watched the UHD disc though, so I have no idea if the HDR to SDR conversion is good. I heard there were some issues with it on the 2001 remastered blu-ray.

Ray Jackson · 10-02-2019, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BluProofie

Yes, it’s the 4K restoration. Have only watched the UHD disc though, so I have no idea if the HDR to SDR conversion is good. I heard there were some issues with it on the 2001 remastered blu-ray.

Probably still better than the old transfer though, right?

BluProofie · 10-02-2019, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Probably still better than the old transfer though, right?

Definitely, considering the 2007 disc has an extremely low bitrate and looks filtered. Also has ghosting in some scenes.

I KEEL YOU · 10-02-2019, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I feel like everything looks slightly out of focus and/or very soft on the new disc. Maybe it's just that the old one was over-sharpened, overly contrasty or whatever, but in the freezer comparison, most of the text on the cans just look a little blurry. I do like the warmer look of it, though I don't know if that's accurate.

The new BD definitely has more detail here:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13...2&a=2&go=1&l=1

Blu-21 · 10-02-2019, 08:34 AM

You can see why some studios don't bother with remastered Blu-Rays when the prepped master is designed for UHD in mind. The HDR to SDR conversion looks underwhelming to say the least. Old 1080p Blu-Ray of The Shining holds up well and still looks better than the new disc IMO.

Vriess · 10-02-2019, 10:28 AM

Yeah looking at comparisons there are shots which do seem to look better on the old disc. That one shot someone posted clearly has a lot better detail in that background area though. I think there are problems with both discs unfortunately. I was hoping this was gonna be a slam dunk.

BaronVH · 10-02-2019, 11:42 AM

There is much focus on the video, but what about the audio? Saw this in the theater last night, and it was wonderful. The huge takeaway from the viewing was the audio was superb. How is the audio on both discs. It was always going to have a soft look to it the way it was shot, but what makes this have an eerie vibe is the sound design.

thecalm_7 · 10-02-2019, 12:54 PM

Not about the UHD, although I did pick it up.
With this being nearly the 40 year mark and Dr Sleep being released next week, I was really hoping for the score to be re-released. I asked numerous record companies if it would be a possibility and all said no or ‘it’s not in the works’. Even asking Water Tower music and Run Out Groove which are with WB. There’s a few copies on eBay but 200$ for a record is a bit steep.
Has anyone heard anything about a score re-release?

agenda · 10-02-2019, 10:15 PM

The Axe Swung By Jack Nicholson in ‘The Shining’ Just Sold at Auction for Over $200,000

thecalm_7 · 10-02-2019, 11:40 PM

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The Axe Swung By Jack Nicholson in ‘The Shining’ Just Sold at Auction for Over $200,000

That’s impressive, I wouldn’t have known how to price something like that. Crazy how much difference in comparison to the other horror pieces mentioned.

reason108 · 10-03-2019, 02:20 AM

A little disappointed that the blu-ray looks so dark here in these screenshots. I bought the UHD based on what I saw in the theater. The actual 4K DCP looked pretty damn amazing overall. I figured there would be some minor differences between the UHD and blu-ray but the blu looks a bit too dark to me. I guess I will have to wait until I actually see it in person to know for sure. Gotta wonder why some of these releases aren’t checked knowing where some problem areas might lie. I don’t know anything about the differences between HDR vs SDR conversion issues or how to avoid them, but, the pros doing these should. Not ready yet to dive into the 4K world. Not sure it would be worth it for a few select titles.

Overall, I liked the 2001 blu-ray, which was taken from its 4K master; minus a few little issues. Guessing The Shining will end up being the same way. Too bad about the original theatrical audio not being included.

vortexx · 10-04-2019, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

The thing is, there are three cuts of "The Shining" which were officially released in theatres, all of which were cut by Kubrick.

The first cut was pulled from theaters after a week or two and has never been allowed to be released any further.

The second cut played in the US theaters, and has been the only cut available in the US on television and home video. The third cut is the shorter, international cut, and (I think) has been the only cut available in those markets up until now.

So if Kubrick had a strong preference for either cut, why would he allow his not-preferred cut to be available to millions of viewers? He definitely blocked future releases of the cut we know that he liked the least.

I'm not saying it's impossible that he would deliberately force some countries to watch a cut he considered inferior, but it doesn't make much sense to me that he would. What makes sense to me is that the two cuts had some different creative goals, and that he felt that both cuts met those goals to a degree which satisfied him.

Kubrick once said he didn't want the film to be widescreen on home video and cropped to the TV set's picture tubes in the days before widescreen TVs, so sometimes I think he's wrong. It would be great if the original footage turned up as an extra one day, but as it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will.

Bobbyjoe766 · 10-04-2019, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vortexx

Kubrick once said he didn't want the film to be widescreen on home video and cropped to the TV set's picture tubes in the days before widescreen TVs, so sometimes I think he's wrong. It would be great if the original footage turned up as an extra one day, but as it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will.

Even if the footage still exists, I doubt it will ever be released - like the 2001: A Space Odyssey deleted scenes - unfortunately.

reason108 · 10-05-2019, 08:00 AM

Received my blu-ray today of The Shining. Can`t comment on the 4k due to the fact that I have yet to get a 4k player. The blu-ray looks pretty good and is comparable to the screenshots posted here on the site. It`s not as dark looking on my television as some of the screenshots seem to imply. I really like the look of this transfer, overall.

thatguamguy · 10-05-2019, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vortexx

Kubrick once said he didn't want the film to be widescreen on home video and cropped to the TV set's picture tubes in the days before widescreen TVs, so sometimes I think he's wrong. It would be great if the original footage turned up as an extra one day, but as it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will.

Is that an actual quote from Kubrick, or just something that was being said by one of his assistants who always says that however WB is currently releasing the films is “exactly how Stanley wanted it”?

bobbyh64 · 10-05-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vortexx

Kubrick once said he didn't want the film to be widescreen on home video and cropped to the TV set's picture tubes in the days before widescreen TVs, so sometimes I think he's wrong. It would be great if the original footage turned up as an extra one day, but as it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will.

How would the film be cropped to fit 4x3 TVs if it was released on home video in widescreen? Did TVs actually crop the sides of widescreen home releases? I can’t ever remember that happening to me.

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Is that an actual quote from Kubrick, or just something that was being said by one of his assistants who always says that however WB is currently releasing the films is “exactly how Stanley wanted it”?

On the back of some of the DVDs (and maybe VHS tapes) it said something like “This film is being presented in an open matte, full-frame format, the way Stanley Kubrick intended.”

Nosferatu31 · 10-06-2019, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by reason108

Received my blu-ray today of The Shining. Can`t comment on the 4k due to the fact that I have yet to get a 4k player. The blu-ray looks pretty good and is comparable to the screenshots posted here on the site. It`s not as dark looking on my television as some of the screenshots seem to imply. I really like the look of this transfer, overall.

Is this a new Blu-ray or the same 2007 release?

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10-01-2019, 10:21 PM	#3561
BluProofie Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 4K collection:841 Blu-ray collection:2281 DVD collection:110 Trading Score:100	Can’t speak for the remastered blu, but the UHD is unbelievable. I’ll never watch that old disc again.

10-02-2019, 08:34 AM	#3568
Blu-21 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:67 Blu-ray reviews:1	You can see why some studios don't bother with remastered Blu-Rays when the prepped master is designed for UHD in mind. The HDR to SDR conversion looks underwhelming to say the least. Old 1080p Blu-Ray of The Shining holds up well and still looks better than the new disc IMO.

10-02-2019, 10:28 AM	#3569
Vriess Expert Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:S Florida 4K collection:162 Blu-ray collection:780 DVD collection:62 Digital collection:14 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:29	Yeah looking at comparisons there are shots which do seem to look better on the old disc. That one shot someone posted clearly has a lot better detail in that background area though. I think there are problems with both discs unfortunately. I was hoping this was gonna be a slam dunk.

10-02-2019, 11:42 AM	#3570
BaronVH Power Member Member since:Oct 2007	There is much focus on the video, but what about the audio? Saw this in the theater last night, and it was wonderful. The huge takeaway from the viewing was the audio was superb. How is the audio on both discs. It was always going to have a soft look to it the way it was shot, but what makes this have an eerie vibe is the sound design.

10-02-2019, 12:54 PM	#3571
thecalm_7 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2011 Location:The Gulf 4K collection:952 Blu-ray collection:5984 DVD collection:860 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:126	Not about the UHD, although I did pick it up. With this being nearly the 40 year mark and Dr Sleep being released next week, I was really hoping for the score to be re-released. I asked numerous record companies if it would be a possibility and all said no or ‘it’s not in the works’. Even asking Water Tower music and Run Out Groove which are with WB. There’s a few copies on eBay but 200$ for a record is a bit steep. Has anyone heard anything about a score re-release?

10-02-2019, 10:15 PM	#3572
agenda Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2018	The Axe Swung By Jack Nicholson in ‘The Shining’ Just Sold at Auction for Over $200,000

10-03-2019, 02:20 AM	#3574
reason108 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 8	A little disappointed that the blu-ray looks so dark here in these screenshots. I bought the UHD based on what I saw in the theater. The actual 4K DCP looked pretty damn amazing overall. I figured there would be some minor differences between the UHD and blu-ray but the blu looks a bit too dark to me. I guess I will have to wait until I actually see it in person to know for sure. Gotta wonder why some of these releases aren’t checked knowing where some problem areas might lie. I don’t know anything about the differences between HDR vs SDR conversion issues or how to avoid them, but, the pros doing these should. Not ready yet to dive into the 4K world. Not sure it would be worth it for a few select titles. Overall, I liked the 2001 blu-ray, which was taken from its 4K master; minus a few little issues. Guessing The Shining will end up being the same way. Too bad about the original theatrical audio not being included.

10-05-2019, 08:00 AM	#3577
reason108 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 8	Received my blu-ray today of The Shining. Can`t comment on the 4k due to the fact that I have yet to get a 4k player. The blu-ray looks pretty good and is comparable to the screenshots posted here on the site. It`s not as dark looking on my television as some of the screenshots seem to imply. I really like the look of this transfer, overall.

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