The Official Martin Logan Speakers Thread - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

billt928 · 03-07-2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by prerich

The only thing I wish about this system is that those ML's had more room out to the sides to breath!!!! Ahhhhhh!

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

Johnny Vinyl · 03-07-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by billt928

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

Ouch!

John

Johnny Vinyl · 03-07-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by billt928

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

You should have a discussion with richteer (he's just picked up some Spires) and he toe's them OUT slightly! Mind you, he's got room...like a lot of room!

John

prerich · 03-07-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by billt928

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

ahhhhhh!!!!!!

Oddiophile · 03-07-2009, 02:33 AM

A good starting point for setting up your Martin Logan ESL's is 3 feet from the back wall, 2 feet from the side walls, and your listening position 10 feet back from the speakers.

For toeing in the speakers Jim Power's toe in technique is the best and very easy to do. Jim Powers is the service manager at Martin Logan.

"My technique for ideal toe-in is pretty low tech but extremely accurate. Get a flashlight. Sit in the listening seat. Hold the flashlight directly above the top of your head. Aim the beam of light at the electrostatic element of each SL3. You will see a vertical streak of light reflected off of the film inside the grid. It will be a very narrow and distinct vertical streak. As you change the toe-in of the speaker, the vertical streak will move across the front of the speaker. Toe the speaker until the light streak is between 1 ½ to 2 inches from the edge of the wood trim on the inboard side. In this position, the SL3s will be aimed past you to the outside. In other words you will not be facing the dead center of the speakers. You will be facing the inner 1/3rd of the panels curve.

This technique works extremely well regardless of the distance to the speakers or even between the speakers. It will also provide you with the flattest response across the bandwidth.
Hope it works for you, jp"

crazyBLUE · 03-07-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by prerich

Man, you do us a great disfavor if you do not post pics!!!! I love to see "A-game" systems, something different and not the same ol' same ol! I always demo stuff that I can't afford - why, because it exposes me to the best - then I have a reference point - try to sound as much like this experience as possible within your budget. When the budget gets bigger - I demo more - and go to the next level! Stay with us and share that beautiful system!!!!

+1

billt928 · 03-07-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Oddiophile

A good starting point for setting up your Martin Logan ESL's is 3 feet from the back wall, 2 feet from the side walls, and your listening position 10 feet back from the speakers.

For toeing in the speakers Jim Power's toe in technique is the best and very easy to do. Jim Powers is the service manager at Martin Logan.

"My technique for ideal toe-in is pretty low tech but extremely accurate. Get a flashlight. Sit in the listening seat. Hold the flashlight directly above the top of your head. Aim the beam of light at the electrostatic element of each SL3. You will see a vertical streak of light reflected off of the film inside the grid. It will be a very narrow and distinct vertical streak. As you change the toe-in of the speaker, the vertical streak will move across the front of the speaker. Toe the speaker until the light streak is between 1 ½ to 2 inches from the edge of the wood trim on the inboard side. In this position, the SL3s will be aimed past you to the outside. In other words you will not be facing the dead center of the speakers. You will be facing the inner 1/3rd of the panels curve.

This technique works extremely well regardless of the distance to the speakers or even between the speakers. It will also provide you with the flattest response across the bandwidth.
Hope it works for you, jp"

Yes I do know the toe-in with the flashlight, not sure if this is a good thing but Jim Powers knows me by name

got rice · 03-07-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by billt928

did not want to offend anyone, maybe I sould not list or do detailed photos of my HT,

Thanks of the many supporters though

Regards
Bill T

None taken here! By all means, I would love to see the rest of your gear. Its not everyday one can see the ML's in a non showroom environment. I personally love your Sunfie amp. It must give those ML's a good workout.

dobyblue · 03-07-2009, 11:57 AM

We do have lots of members who either love ML's or own them.

Check out zepherman's gallery - https://www.blu-ray.com/community/ga...&folderid=227#

richteer · 03-07-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ludawg23

i'd try the avsforums. Martin Logans are pretty high-end stuff, you'll find plenty of guys on those boards who are big time audio enthusiasts.

We're mostly entry to mid level around here

Speak for yourself! Even if people can only afford entry-level stuff, there's no reason why they shouldn't want to lust over more expensive kit. One person's affordable is another's expensive...

richteer · 03-07-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ludawg23

I've browsed the speaker section a lot over at avsforums, the range in quality/brands is far greater than this section. Looks like most of us around here stick to paradigm/polk/klipsch mostly.

Then it's up to us who have experience beyond those usual brands to broaden people's horizons. I think it's fair to say that many of the people who own those brands here would probably buy something better if they were better informed.

Going to BestBuy/Circuit City or whatever is NOT the best way to get informed about really nice (though not necessarily expensive) audio. It's up to audio enthusiasts like me to share my passion and knowledge, so that people can make better informed decisions.

richteer · 03-07-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DiverSpear

Very Nice! I also own ML's and a Sony XBR5. You can not beat the sound of ML's, especially for jazz and classical. I have noticed hard rock can sound harsh on them, either that or I have them too loud and I'm to drunk to hear anything. LOL

ML's aren't harsh, but they're very revealing. The harshness you're hearing is most likely to be from earlier in the playback chain (unless you're driving them REALLY loudly!).

richteer · 03-07-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by prerich

The only thing I wish about this system is that those ML's had more room out to the sides to breath!!!! Ahhhhhh!

I was going to mention that! Move them away from the front wall too, Bill. You'll get much better sound! My Spires are about 5 feet into the room and 4 feet from the sides.

richteer · 03-07-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by John72953

You should have a discussion with richteer (he's just picked up some Spires) and he toe's them OUT slightly! Mind you, he's got room...like a lot of room!

John

Seems like you've provided me with the perfect excuse to post a pic of my system. :-)

Johnny Vinyl · 03-07-2009, 03:51 PM

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