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Old 07-13-2020, 09:43 PM   #1
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A fun thing to do is read the documents detailing the exact specifications under which the opening scene is approved, the very heavy limitations they placed on him about people lying vs sitting in bed, exactly what they can show and how suggestive they can be, and then compare it to the actual film. You can almost hear Hitchcock blowing a raspberry at them, sometimes following the letter while deliberately avoiding the spirit, and sometimes finding a way to completely ignore the instructions while appearing innocent. I swear, it is really funny. Almost every shot for the first two minutes is him rebelling in some way.
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Do you have more specifics on this?
This was a few years ago, so I don't remember which of the different behind-the-scenes books was a good source of detailed info about the censorship stuff, however I do remember that the AFI website was a really good source for a lot of it. I think it was probably in there somewhere if you want to go digging.

I'm watching the scene now; I remember that there was a very specific comment, "You can't have them lying in bed together kissing", so if you watch the scene he sits down and she sits up, they start kissing, and then keep kissing as they gradually lie down, and then immediately, as soon as they are both against the bed, they stop kissing, say a few lines, and then each one of them will lift themselves off the bed and kiss the other. They are never kissing when they are both lying down. You wouldn't think anything of it without reading the document, but I'm 90% sure he's trolling somebody with that shot.

The shot of the sandwich, which looks like it is masking a few line removals, I want to say that the studio insisted that they explicitly show that they "had lunch", which is why Hitchcock explicitly has the line be "You didn't eat".
(Also between "dirty love letters" and "I have to go Sam", I think there's a cut there too, but possibly pre-censorship, I don't remember the details, but there's a shooting script somewhere on-line.)

I'm certain that there was a script note about the guy's (lack of) shirt, but I don't remember what it was, just that the framing of that opening shot seemed funny in light of the note.
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This was a few years ago, so I don't remember which of the different behind-the-scenes books was a good source of detailed info about the censorship stuff, however I do remember that the AFI website was a really good source for a lot of it. I think it was probably in there somewhere if you want to go digging.

I'm watching the scene now; I remember that there was a very specific comment, "You can't have them lying in bed together kissing", so if you watch the scene he sits down and she sits up, they start kissing, and then keep kissing as they gradually lie down, and then immediately, as soon as they are both against the bed, they stop kissing, say a few lines, and then each one of them will lift themselves off the bed and kiss the other. They are never kissing when they are both lying down. You wouldn't think anything of it without reading the document, but I'm 90% sure he's trolling somebody with that shot.

The shot of the sandwich, which looks like it is masking a few line removals, I want to say that the studio insisted that they explicitly show that they "had lunch", which is why Hitchcock explicitly has the line be "You didn't eat".
(Also between "dirty love letters" and "I have to go Sam", I think there's a cut there too, but possibly pre-censorship, I don't remember the details, but there's a shooting script somewhere on-line.)

I'm certain that there was a script note about the guy's (lack of) shirt, but I don't remember what it was, just that the framing of that opening shot seemed funny in light of the note.
The book I'm most familiar with is Stephen Rebello's Alfred Hitchcock and the making of Psycho. I bought it when it came out in 1990 and haven't read it in awhile, but I'm pretty sure it went into all the cuts Hitchcock made to appease the censors. I know this opening scene was talked about in detail.
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Yes, that is very strange. The packaging does not indicate UHD. So is this intended to be played in regular Blu-ray players? If so, how many customers are going to have success with that?
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