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Old 08-04-2020, 02:53 AM   #1801
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The sheer amount of ADR on Batman Forever gives it a very cartoony feel as well. I'm not sure I've ever seen a movie with as much obvious ADR.
When I first started digging into the tech aspects of the film and realized that the old 2.0 matrix mix was better done than the 5.1 this is one of the many things that suddenly jumped out at me. (Widescreen Review said the same in their old LD and DVD reviews) I think if some old reports I've read are to be believed that many of the actors had to re-record dialogue elsewhere during post due to busy schedules which might account to the slightly canned sound to the dialogue-but yes it's ADR everywhere so much so that the discrete 5.1 mix accentuates the hiss and artifice of the rerecorded audio so one you notice it you can't quite unnotice it.

The 2.0 mix like a lot of mid 90's WB tracks weirdly has better mixed presence in the surround despite it being mono and a better low end. While the clarity takes a hit this does negate a lot of the audible noise in the ADR and makes it much less obvious.

Now there's finally talk about officially releasing the longer version:
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/b...er-1234697441/
This has made it to a number of sites and there's a twitter movement starting but of course without any of the Snyder cut fanfare. According to the sources the cut actually exists in the vaults at 170 min and WB doesn't know if there's demand to release it.
There has been since they teased it back in 2005 darn it.

My petition is now a year old and has almost 400 signatures.
https://www.change.org/p/warner-brot...batman-forever

Personally I would think that it would have been released as intended at 2 hr 15 up to 2 hr 30 depending on the shooting script and final cut before Warner had their way with it cutting down to 122 min and restructuring the opening. But at least there's something to work with and it could easily be a Warner Archive release if they don't do a Donner Cut style standalone. All it needs is a new scan, color timing, sound polish and you could even integrate the footage into the 4K theatrical master since that's already done.
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:40 AM   #1802
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1989 film on 4K blew me away. I wasn't old enough to see it in theaters so to me it's always been this just awful looking movie. New disc is revelatory (and the complaints about overuse of blue are silly).

I couldn't help but take this with my iPhone.


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Old 08-13-2020, 02:13 AM   #1803
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Anyone have any idea on how cheap the films have been so far? They're all around $25 or more still and was wondering if I should wait for some type of inevitable sale.
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Old 08-13-2020, 03:59 AM   #1804
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Anyone have any idea on how cheap the films have been so far? They're all around $25 or more still and was wondering if I should wait for some type of inevitable sale.
I don't approve of the remixes, so I'm waiting for a Gold Box deal or similar. I won't even consider unless it goes below $40. I would prefer $30 for the set.
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Old 08-13-2020, 05:59 AM   #1805
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I don't approve of the remixes, so I'm waiting for a Gold Box deal or similar. I won't even consider unless it goes below $40. I would prefer $30 for the set.
Remixes for the audio of the films?
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Old 08-13-2020, 06:18 AM   #1806
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Remixes for the audio of the films?
Yes.
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:15 AM   #1807
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Down for a more reasonable price now at $59.99
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Old 08-25-2020, 06:01 PM   #1808
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Does anyone know where you can buy the 4 film collection in Canada? I can't find it on Best Buy, Amazon or Walmart. People are selling it for over $100 on Ebay...was this a limited release or something?
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:45 PM   #1809
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Just got the first film and it looks really good, as others have noted.
I did notice the new sound effects, but I think I can live with it , maybe.

Anyway, I am always surprised at the prostitute who addresses the small boy at the beginning. This sure isn’t a children’s film!
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Old 10-14-2020, 02:31 AM   #1810
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Seems to be sold out at most places
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Old 10-18-2020, 06:29 PM   #1811
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I can't find the HD/UHD combo set at my local Best Buy. I emailed them, but they said :
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Unfortunately this set is not carried at our location. It looks like it may be something that we no longer are going to carry. They maybe coming out with a new set. The best time to check for things like this is around the start of our holiday season. Like mid November. We tend to carry a lot of different box sets for movies then.
Has this set actually been discontinued? Will there be a new set in November? Is there any information on this?
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Old 10-18-2020, 07:52 PM   #1812
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Weird, but I actually kind of enjoy Batman & Robin more than Batman Forever.
Me too. BF is the worst IMO.... B&R at least is so bad that is good. And Arnold speaking only in one liners is guaranteed entertainment..... BF is just... meh
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:24 PM   #1813
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I can't say I like Batman&Robin better than Batman Forever, as I find both to be pretty bad films overall, as I completely dislike Schumacher's campy acid-trip style choices. I guess you can argue that B&R doesn't suffer an identity crisis the way Forever does, as Forever is an inconsistent mish-mash of Burton's darker sensibility and the goofier cartoony tone Schumacher would go all-in with in B&R. Both films were disappointments to me back in the day.

I can view both films now with a bit more interest in retrospect, since they're now more of a time-capsule of the comic book sensibilities of the mid-late nineties, and not a ruination of the Batman film franchise. But as far as tongue-in-cheek campy takes on Batman go, I find the Adam West Batman: The Movie to be far superior to either of the Schumacher films.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:33 PM   #1814
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I can't find the HD/UHD combo set at my local Best Buy. I emailed them, but they said :


Has this set actually been discontinued? Will there be a new set in November? Is there any information on this?
Warner has been acting really odd with their 4K's recently. Most have no Dolby Vision (Full Metal Jacket, Goonies, Beetlejuice) and some of their earlier catalog titles like Goodfellas (which is now $37!) and Batman V Superman had fallen out of print.
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49.99 for prime day.
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Old 06-21-2021, 11:20 PM   #1816
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49.99 for prime day.
Is that the lowest price it's ever been?
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Old 06-21-2021, 11:22 PM   #1817
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Is that the lowest price it's ever been?
Yep. I literally almost pulled the trigger for 80.99 a few days ago too. i'm pumped.
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Old 06-21-2021, 11:42 PM   #1818
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If I already have these in 4k digital, will it make a big difference in terms of PQ?
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Old 06-21-2021, 11:55 PM   #1819
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If I already have these in 4k digital, will it make a big difference in terms of PQ?
There's probably a slight edge to the disc but nothing noticable. I'm not the biggest expert though. I've just always understood that nothing really beats the disc. Although if you own it digitially, there's no actual streaming involved, correct? So there may be no difference at all. I'm sure someone else will chime in and set you straight.
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It been lower on Amazon before with coupon around ~$45 , don't remember when
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