The Good The Bad & The Ugly..May 12th - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Sussudio · 04-12-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoneFan

I knew MGM was going to f#$@ this up somehow, all their DVD releases of the dollars films have been half-assed at best so this is no surprise. I guess the low $19.99 pre-order price on Amazon should have rang a bell. I guess there is no point in waiting for them to release the other two, might as well cough up the dough and import them. This was my most anticipated release of the year so far and they screwed it up.

it's 19.99 because it's an older catalog title....pricing makes sense to me. maybe hold off until a review hits the internet before declaring final judgment and saying it's "screwed up." just my opinion

ZIPPO · 04-12-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by flyboy66

This is a definite buy day 1! One of the greatest films of all time! Now lets get Once Upon a Time in the West released!

I agree, time for Once Upon a Time in the West on blu-ray.

hoosier2007 · 04-12-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZIPPO

I agree, time for Once Upon a Time in the West on blu-ray.

Thats makes 3 of us,

LeoneFan · 04-12-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by J.Cornelius

Take a look at the Sergio Leone Anthology, "half-assed", far from it.

Well if you've seen the vastly superior region 2 German releases of Fistful of Dollars and For A Few Dollars More then you know how half-assed the MGM releases are. Not to mention the italian release of Fistful of Dynamite which is also better than the MGM release.

LeoneFan · 04-12-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

it's 19.99 because it's an older catalog title....pricing makes sense to me. maybe hold off until a review hits the internet before declaring final judgment and saying it's "screwed up." just my opinion

Since when does FOX/MGM price their catalog titles at $20 on release? The bottom line is that this is a rush job budget transfer. Here is another review from Amazon from someone who has already seen the European release which should be the exact same transfer as the US release.

"I bought the EU release of GBU BD, and its... crap! I have Pioneer BD-player and 50" Pioneer plasma (9G), and there is no big difference to the newest special edition dvd-release. The BD has more color depht, but thats about it. No major difference in the sound comparing to the SE dvd.
20 bucks? Why so cheap? Probably because it was made poorly. I would pay even 40 bucks from this movie, if it had the BD restoration it deserved."

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1M1LVU...cm_cr_rdp_perm

Sussudio · 04-12-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoneFan

Since when does FOX/MGM price their catalog titles at $20 on release? The bottom line is that this is a rush job budget transfer. Here is another review from Amazon from someone who has already seen the European release which should be the exact same transfer as the US release.

"I bought the EU release of GBU BD, and its... crap! I have Pioneer BD-player and 50" Pioneer plasma (9G), and there is no big difference to the newest special edition dvd-release. The BD has more color depht, but thats about it. No major difference in the sound comparing to the SE dvd.
20 bucks? Why so cheap? Probably because it was made poorly. I would pay even 40 bucks from this movie, if it had the BD restoration it deserved."

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1M1LVU...cm_cr_rdp_perm

first off, i hope you are not trusting your own opinion solely to an amazon review (not necessarily saying that person is lying, but it is their opinion which may not even be correct to begin with). second, i have seen more and more catalog titles priced at $19.99. i'm not saying the transfer on the good the bad and the ugly will be great (or even good for that matter), i'm just saying you should wait for an actual review with screencaps and specs before stating your ultimatum. granted you can do whatever you want, but it seems silly to already judge the movie when you have heard nothing about the transfer except from someone's amazon review.

JAC6 · 04-12-2009, 08:16 PM

Wow, this is a tough crowd. First Blu-Rays are too expensive but then when catalog titles are released at an attractive price point, the immediate assumption is that the transfer is terrible or they otherwise haven't really truly put in the effort. Of course, nobody has actually seen it, so it is all speculation. Calm down and wait to see what it looks like.

That said, this is a great movie and it will immediately be the best reasonably available transfer out there, so I pre-ordered it from Amazon.

Paradiso · 04-17-2009, 06:23 PM

So still no word on whether this version will be the one with the restored footage like the dvd that was released a couple years back?

Tempest · 04-17-2009, 06:57 PM

I think it is best to just wait until it is released, wait for the reviews, and find out if it is done right or a crap port to blu ray.. I won't pre-order it.. and will not buy it if it is a crap port.

If more people waited for the reviews instead of blind pre-ordering.. the stuidos would KNOW better than to release a crap port that won't sell.

ryoohki · 04-17-2009, 07:06 PM

the latest batch of James Bond Blu-ray were 19.99$CAD (that about 15$US) on release date! and they are awesome. Price is not an gauge of quality..

richieb1971 · 04-18-2009, 06:16 AM

After seeing the DVD of the 1966 movie, I am quite confident the blu will hold up pretty well. Usually, when an older movie is made in blu, its because its worth it.

I still have never seen the truck in this movie, I can't find it. Maybe I will on blu if they don't edit it out.

Mr.White · 04-18-2009, 06:22 AM

Why not the "Sergio Leone Blu Ray Collection",they DID the same shit w/ the TGTB&TU on DVD with the 2 disc set in 2004,put one movie out first then put all of them out together in a nice set(2007) so u hav to buy the same release twice,not this sucker,will wait for a complete Leone set! I'M KEEPING MY SERGIO LEONE DVD SET FOR NOW! Get me wrong TGTB&TU is an awesome film and one of my all tyme faves!

LeoneFan · 04-18-2009, 06:36 AM

Well, I hate it when I'm right!! Here is the dvdbeaver review:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCom...oodbadugly.htm

As you can see from the screen comparisons, it's DNRed up the ass lacking fine detail. I can't believe MGM/FOX would screw this masterpiece up with such a garbage release. What a bunch of incompetent morons!!

Rom1 · 04-18-2009, 07:28 AM

It's not that terrible...and come on guys....19,99$ damn!

space-monkey · 04-18-2009, 08:49 AM

Yeah, I'll wait for more reviews on this one. The faces look waxy as hell, and the background detail seems lacking.

The DVDBeaver review does say it looks better in motion, and hasn't been over-DNR-ed, but I'll still wait for more reviews.

I really, really hope they didn't **** up Fargo. I'm much more excited for that one.

zahinn · 04-18-2009, 01:40 PM

I was wondering...if they ever make a Dollar Trilogy...will it be anytime soon ? Like this year ?

Lyle_JP · 04-18-2009, 06:05 PM

I'm pretty upset that we won't be getting the 161 minute cut, enough so that I just won't buy this. GBU is my favorite western of all time, but the English language extended cut is a poor way to watch it. MGM got lazy/cheap and made no effort to digitally alter Eastwood's or Wallach's voice tracks to make them sound younger (this was done with great success on Lawrence of Arabia), so it's completely jarring when the 70+ year-old voices come out of 30-something actors, and it pulls me right out of the movie.

Also, the scene where Wallach recruits the Mexican bandits has no place in any cut of this film. Leone cut it from the Italian version after one showing. He never wanted it in the picture. MGM added it back because they could, not because they should.

Screw you MGM. How hard would it have been to add seamless branching and an original mono track? This was a minimum effort DVD-port of one of the finest films in your library. It deserves better!

El_Burro · 04-30-2009, 12:32 PM

Important update:
MondoHe (in Italy its MondoHe not MGM), has confirmed that before ending of 2009 they will publish their version of these masterpiece , that has been restored and remastered totally! (just check out the others films of Sergio Leone to have an idea..) So will be a total different master and of course, better than these one already out

AnimeOnBlu · 04-30-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Burro

Important update:
MondoHe (in Italy its MondoHe not MGM), has confirmed that before ending of 2009 they will publish their version of these masterpiece , that has been restored and remastered totally! (just check out the others films of Sergio Leone to have an idea..) So will be a total different master and of course, better than these one already out

Mondo Released "For A Few Dollars More" and it only had Italian DTS-HD MA 1.0 and No English audio/subs. I am pretty sure their "The Good, The Bad And the Ugly" will follow suit.

El_Burro · 04-30-2009, 01:26 PM

yeah you're right,sorry for that.
Anyway you can still try to "bomb" them via email asking for english audio track too !

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04-12-2009, 08:16 PM	#47
JAC6 Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:San Francisco Home Theater Gallery:13	Wow, this is a tough crowd. First Blu-Rays are too expensive but then when catalog titles are released at an attractive price point, the immediate assumption is that the transfer is terrible or they otherwise haven't really truly put in the effort. Of course, nobody has actually seen it, so it is all speculation. Calm down and wait to see what it looks like. That said, this is a great movie and it will immediately be the best reasonably available transfer out there, so I pre-ordered it from Amazon.

04-17-2009, 06:23 PM	#48
Paradiso Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:45	So still no word on whether this version will be the one with the restored footage like the dvd that was released a couple years back?

04-17-2009, 06:57 PM	#49
Tempest Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:7	I think it is best to just wait until it is released, wait for the reviews, and find out if it is done right or a crap port to blu ray.. I won't pre-order it.. and will not buy it if it is a crap port. If more people waited for the reviews instead of blind pre-ordering.. the stuidos would KNOW better than to release a crap port that won't sell.

04-17-2009, 07:06 PM	#50
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	the latest batch of James Bond Blu-ray were 19.99$CAD (that about 15$US) on release date! and they are awesome. Price is not an gauge of quality..

04-18-2009, 06:16 AM	#51
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	After seeing the DVD of the 1966 movie, I am quite confident the blu will hold up pretty well. Usually, when an older movie is made in blu, its because its worth it. I still have never seen the truck in this movie, I can't find it. Maybe I will on blu if they don't edit it out.

04-18-2009, 06:22 AM	#52
Mr.White Banned Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:502 Blu-ray reviews:29	Why not the "Sergio Leone Blu Ray Collection",they DID the same shit w/ the TGTB&TU on DVD with the 2 disc set in 2004,put one movie out first then put all of them out together in a nice set(2007) so u hav to buy the same release twice,not this sucker,will wait for a complete Leone set! I'M KEEPING MY SERGIO LEONE DVD SET FOR NOW! Get me wrong TGTB&TU is an awesome film and one of my all tyme faves!

04-18-2009, 06:36 AM	#53
LeoneFan Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007	Well, I hate it when I'm right!! Here is the dvdbeaver review: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCom...oodbadugly.htm As you can see from the screen comparisons, it's DNRed up the ass lacking fine detail. I can't believe MGM/FOX would screw this masterpiece up with such a garbage release. What a bunch of incompetent morons!!

04-18-2009, 07:28 AM	#54
Rom1 Active Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:France 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:1304	It's not that terrible...and come on guys....19,99$ damn!

04-18-2009, 08:49 AM	#55
space-monkey Active Member Member since:Mar 2008	Yeah, I'll wait for more reviews on this one. The faces look waxy as hell, and the background detail seems lacking. The DVDBeaver review does say it looks better in motion, and hasn't been over-DNR-ed, but I'll still wait for more reviews. I really, really hope they didn't **** up Fargo. I'm much more excited for that one.

04-18-2009, 01:40 PM	#56
zahinn Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:150	I was wondering...if they ever make a Dollar Trilogy...will it be anytime soon ? Like this year ?

04-18-2009, 06:05 PM	#57
Lyle_JP Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:1094 Blu-ray reviews: 6	I'm pretty upset that we won't be getting the 161 minute cut, enough so that I just won't buy this. GBU is my favorite western of all time, but the English language extended cut is a poor way to watch it. MGM got lazy/cheap and made no effort to digitally alter Eastwood's or Wallach's voice tracks to make them sound younger (this was done with great success on Lawrence of Arabia), so it's completely jarring when the 70+ year-old voices come out of 30-something actors, and it pulls me right out of the movie. Also, the scene where Wallach recruits the Mexican bandits has no place in any cut of this film. Leone cut it from the Italian version after one showing. He never wanted it in the picture. MGM added it back because they could, not because they should. Screw you MGM. How hard would it have been to add seamless branching and an original mono track? This was a minimum effort DVD-port of one of the finest films in your library. It deserves better!

04-30-2009, 12:32 PM	#58
El_Burro Active Member Member since:Oct 2008	Important update: MondoHe (in Italy its MondoHe not MGM), has confirmed that before ending of 2009 they will publish their version of these masterpiece , that has been restored and remastered totally! (just check out the others films of Sergio Leone to have an idea..) So will be a total different master and of course, better than these one already out

04-30-2009, 01:26 PM	#60
El_Burro Active Member Member since:Oct 2008	yeah you're right,sorry for that. Anyway you can still try to "bomb" them via email asking for english audio track too !

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