The Hobbit Trilogy 4K UHD Extended & Theatrical (2012-2014)

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by wjasoncul

Thorin's key maybe?

[Show spoiler]

(I literally don’t know because I’ve been holding off watching the Hobbit movies until they hit UHD but thats one cool key not gonna lie)

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

(I literally don’t know because I’ve been holding off watching the Hobbit movies until they hit UHD but thats one cool key not gonna lie)

You've never seen the Hobbitses?

[Pieter V]

Info on the 2021 releases, added to the OP.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You've never seen the Hobbitses?

I posted about it like a year or two ago, yeah. Everyone said to watch the extended editions first for some reason. Still waiting for the UHDs.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

I posted about it like a year or two ago, yeah. Everyone said to watch the extended editions first for some reason. Still waiting for the UHDs.

The EEs are the way to go with the Hobbitses, yes. They're not as drastic in their alterations and additions as the LOTR flicks, I don't feel like they're massacring the pacing like the LOTR EEs do so I'm happy to default to the longer versions.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The EEs are the way to go with the Hobbitses, yes. They're not as drastic in their alterations and additions as the LOTR flicks, I don't feel like they're massacring the pacing like the LOTR EEs do so I'm happy to default to the longer versions.

The movies themselves are an EE of the novel, dragged out to interminable length. Should have been two 100 min films - at MOST.
I actually dozed off during Desolation of Smaug in the theater - and I can count on one hand how many times I've done that in a theater for my entire lifetime.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

The movies themselves are an EE of the novel, dragged out to interminable length. Should have been two 100 min films - at MOST.
I actually dozed off during Desolation of Smaug in the theater - and I can count on one hand how many times I've done that in a theater for my entire lifetime.

Blah blah blah, yackedy schmackedy, if people don't like the Hobbitses then why are they posting in this thread at all? Y'all have had enough time to get over it, let the people who like them get on with it.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Blah blah blah, yackedy schmackedy, if people don't like the Hobbitses then why are they posting in this thread at all? Y'all have had enough time to get over it, let the people who like them get on with it.

I feel like I’ll have no trouble visiting Middle-earth again.

[Lordy]

Originally Posted by katiehlvr2

Sorry if I missed it but for US releases will these be Extended and Regular or do we not know that yet?

Both.

[HallowedSZ]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

I feel like I’ll have no trouble visiting Middle-earth again.

They are no LOTR, but they are still fantastic.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by HallowedSZ

They are no LOTR, but they are still fantastic.

If anything they basically turn into LOTR 0.5 (which was part of the plan all along, even in the Del Toro days) which is what the complainers don't seem to be able to grasp about how/why this "kid's book" was lengthened like this. People still don't have to like it, fair enough, but there seems to be an awful lot of them who just miss the point completely.

[bookcase]

Originally Posted by HallowedSZ

They are no LOTR, but they are still fantastic.

Totally agree. I'll eagerly take the trip to Middle Earth again in both of these trilogies.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Blah blah blah, yackedy schmackedy, if people don't like the Hobbitses then why are they posting in this thread at all? Y'all have had enough time to get over it, let the people who like them get on with it.

Because there's pieces/setpieces of good movies in there - I just have to hold down the FF button to get to them. The Hobbit was read to me by my father way back in 1973 so the film adaption was somewhat of a letdown - because of the excess. LOTR .5 or not. It was excessive.

As far as "not liking it" - someone else posting as you in the SW Sequel trilogy threads?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Because there's pieces/setpieces of good movies in there - I just have to hold down the FF button to get to them. The Hobbit was read to me by my father way back in 1973 so the film adaption was somewhat of a letdown - because of the excess. LOTR .5 or not. It was excessive.

As far as "not liking it" - someone else posting as you in the SW Sequel trilogy threads?

Movie threads or UHD threads? I do actually like Last Jedi and thought Rise was alright the one time I saw it, it's just Force Awakens that I'm still leery about. I've posted 8 times in the TFA UHD thread though and not one of them is me crapping on the movie. Been there, done that, don't need to do it in that thread to make me feel all smug and superior like.

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Because there's pieces/setpieces of good movies in there - I just have to hold down the FF button to get to them. The Hobbit was read to me by my father way back in 1973 so the film adaption was somewhat of a letdown - because of the excess. LOTR .5 or not. It was excessive.

As far as "not liking it" - someone else posting as you in the SW Sequel trilogy threads?

Will you be purchasing the 4K collections? Or did you just want to tell us you don't like them?

[rexcrk]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If anything they basically turn into LOTR 0.5 (which was part of the plan all along, even in the Del Toro days) which is what the complainers don't seem to be able to grasp about how/why this "kid's book" was lengthened like this. People still don't have to like it, fair enough, but there seems to be an awful lot of them who just miss the point completely.

I’m eagerly awaiting the day years down the road when more vocal people wake up and actually realize this. I’ve posted countless times in countless threads on countless websites about how / why they’re good movies and why they work but it’s the same thing every time: “they added too much!” “CGI!” “This isn’t the book that was read to me when I was a kid”

And like, it’s fine if you don’t like them, but it drives me crazy when people complain about the “differences” between the book and movies but are blind to how completely different Lord of the Rings gets as those movies go on.

Personally, I like that the Hobbit movies have the entire book in them, as well as added material from the appendices, as well as the world overall expanded upon for the sake of them being movies. Sure, there’s some made up stuff in them, but held under the same microscope, LotR would look just as bad with that criteria.

They aren’t perfect, but honesty, Fellowship of the Ring is really the only “perfect” Middle-earth movie in my opinion

[NeoTechnicJ]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If anything they basically turn into LOTR 0.5 (which was part of the plan all along, even in the Del Toro days) which is what the complainers don't seem to be able to grasp about how/why this "kid's book" was lengthened like this. People still don't have to like it, fair enough, but there seems to be an awful lot of them who just miss the point completely.

I mean, I really like the Hobbit movies but there were parts that don't have any bearing on LOTR and are just silly, in DOS in particular, that are just padding for three movies (

[Show spoiler] like the Barrels Out of Bond action piece, golden Smaug, Orc raid on Esgaroth, and the cliché love triangle

)

Originally Posted by Vangeli

I posted about it like a year or two ago, yeah. Everyone said to watch the extended editions first for some reason. Still waiting for the UHDs.

I prefer the theatrical cut of Unexpected Journey, but the EE has some fun scenes. The additions to DOS aid the story and the EE of BotFA is absolutely the way to go. The theatrical version mind bogglingly leaves out an important scene.

[spiderfan1985]

Originally Posted by levcore

I don't think anyone was offended, it just gave us a good laugh.

That’s cool. I was in a bit of a mood when I posted earlier so... guess it carried over.

[MisterKorman]

While I like these movies infinitely more than Batman v Superman, the extended cuts for the second and third movies remind me of the BvS extended cut. They're technically better and they add content that makes the larger story more interesting, but they screw with the pacing in a way that makes watching them feel like more of an ordeal, if that makes sense. (I still really like them, and there are some additions that I love.) Strangely, despite the length and arguably-meandering pace, I absolutely loved the extended cut for An Unexpected Journey.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by NeoTechnicJ

I mean, I really like the Hobbit movies but there were parts that don't have any bearing on LOTR and are just silly, in DOS in particular, that are just padding for three movies (

[Show spoiler] like the Barrels Out of Bond action piece, golden Smaug, Orc raid on Esgaroth, and the cliché love triangle

)

Even so, the more action-oriented flava of the Hobbitses fits with the more whimsical tone of the story to me, and I love that barrels set piece. They included Tauriel to give female viewers the kick-ass heroine they were denied when Arwen's role in LOTR was scaled back to basically being a wet blanket, although they did undermine the grrl powah angle by giving her that soppy love triangle, yes.