Pioneer Elite Break In Discussion

[stodgers]

Speaking as someone who bought the Pro 110, do not underestimate break in time. I have severe image retention issues with my Elite from limited, casual use of my display as a video output for my Zune MP3 player. Because the graphics were static, it caused pretty severe issues in my first several months.

First I ran the bars every night for a week - no improvement. Then I cycled through thousands of images over the course of many days - marginal improvement. I had to rent March of the Penguins, crank up the settings and play it on a loop overnight twice and this weekend will be seeing how that helped.

So despite all the hype, image retention and burn-in are not a thing of the past.

[JJ]

Heck, with my Kuro, I never bothered with break-in, and in 2 months, no problems. Of course, I never watch any TV, but I watched 2.35/1.85 movies, played games with static images, with no problem. But I would run the white bar right before I went to bed, and I did use the PS3s visualizer a lot for music, so maybe that served as break-in. But nowawadays I leave static images on for maybe 30 mins tops when I take breaks, and no issues.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by stodgers

Speaking as someone who bought the Pro 110, do not underestimate break in time. I have severe image retention issues with my Elite from limited, casual use of my display as a video output for my Zune MP3 player. Because the graphics were static, it caused pretty severe issues in my first several months.

First I ran the bars every night for a week - no improvement. Then I cycled through thousands of images over the course of many days - marginal improvement. I had to rent March of the Penguins, crank up the settings and play it on a loop overnight twice and this weekend will be seeing how that helped.

So despite all the hype, image retention and burn-in are not a thing of the past.

Well there in lies the problem doesnt it? Why would you have static images on it right after you purchased it? I have had no whatsoever issues with burn-ins and image retention and I watch more movies via BDs than cable. Sorry your going through these issues.

[coolmilo]

Click on the link and read through the thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1053444. This should help you make up your mind about properly breaking in your new Kuro.

In my case, I ran the break-in disk on my Kuro but I also took some time to watch movies and TV (full screen mode). I think it's important to break-in Plazma TV's - it kind of hardens the pixels to prevent any problems in the future (best way someone described it to me).

However it is completely up to you to break in your new Kuro or not (not a requirement by the factory).

The next step (after 100 hours) is to investigate purchasing ControlCal and inputting DNICE's ISF settings. I did that and it made a nice improvement in the picture over the default settings.

I am going one step further...next month my Kuro will be professionally calibrated by one of the premier ISF calibrators (according to AVS Forum). That should be fun.

[JJ]

Milo, if you could, give me more info for ControlCal, please - I'm on the website right now, but is it a free download? I'm approaching 150 hours and when I get to 200 I would like to kick in DNice's settings.

Seems simple enough to use.

[RIPSeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

Milo, if you could, give me more info for ControlCal, please - I'm on the website right now, but is it a free download? I'm approaching 150 hours and when I get to 200 I would like to kick in DNice's settings.

Seems simple enough to use.

150 Hours of Life? or Break In, I thought you did do that JJ?

[JJ]

Originally Posted by RIPSeanTaylor21

150 Hours of Life? or Break In, I thought you did do that JJ?

I never did break-in. I'm just saying I'm approaching 150-200 hours of it being in use. And I have DNice's pre-200 hours settings activated, after the grayscales settle down in that period, then you can use his post-200 hours settings, which can only be inputted using ControlCal.

[coolmilo]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

Milo, if you could, give me more info for ControlCal, please - I'm on the website right now, but is it a free download? I'm approaching 150 hours and when I get to 200 I would like to kick in DNice's settings.

Seems simple enough to use.

It's a free download but you need to purchase the cal file for your set. Turbe (www.controlcal.com) sells two kinds of files, one to enter the settings and another opens a secret panel to display total hours and other information. I believe he gives a discount to purchase both. In other words, without the settings files, the free download is useless.

It was confusing to me to but Turbe is awesome and will answer all your questions.

Also you need to get a serial cable (both ends female) (from Monoprice). http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2