Commentary from the Insiders Thread - Page 12 - Blu-ray Forum

Jack Torrance · 08-29-2007, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hoser

There is constant rhetoric coming from the Dark Side stating there is no difference, in performance, between BD and HD-DVD.
The PQ/SQ quality is the same....the only real difference is price (which is FUD

).
This is where the BDA needs to step in and rally the troops.
USE that 20gb of extra storage and the higher bandwidth to establish BD as the next format for the masses.

Exactly! I get sick of reading that there is "no difference" on the pq between HD-DUD and blu-ray on The Departed/Blood Diamond/300 etc... DUH, it's because it's the same goddamn encode!

If Warner is letting blu-ray FINALLY strut it's stuff with RETURN TO HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL, though it may seem like this is an insignificant title right now, going forward into the future this could be a huge step...

benes · 08-29-2007, 04:05 AM

Regarding Return to House on Haunted Hill here is what advantage the blu-ray has:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2&postcount=26

dialog_gvf · 08-29-2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by benes

Regarding Return to House on Haunted Hill here is what advantage the blu-ray has:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2&postcount=26

Hmmm. Interesting considering it should have been PiPped by the crowd over there.

Maybe they don't realize that HD DVD's spec makes seamless branching very difficult?

Gary

Penton-Man · 08-29-2007, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by benes

Regarding Return to House on Haunted Hill here is what advantage the blu-ray has:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2&postcount=26

Well I see from your link that paidgeek spoiled all the fun for us by posting over there on AVMS.

Doesn’t he put credence into anything the Micro$oft employees say ?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=142

I shall post a confirmation on the main Insider’s Thread here since it appears that everyone and his uncle knows about it now.

Maximus · 08-29-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beatboy77

Just spoke with my contact at WB and she confirms that "Return to House on Haunted Hill" will show WB's new preference for Blu-ray. Look for this release to favor the Blu-ray version vs. the HD-DVD version.

All of this on the heels of Nickerson's departure from WB. I wonder what's cooking

~Josh

Josh, I would be careful what I said about that on a public forum. WB have put a gag order on most people who know what happened.

mattym · 08-29-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Josh, I would be careful what I said about that on a public forum. WB have put a gag order on most people who know what happened.

why? whats cooking? (pm function still works apparently?)

Maximus · 08-29-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mattym

why? whats cooking? (pm function still works apparently?)

Nothing, not that I know of anyway.

mattym · 08-29-2007, 12:30 PM

why gag people though? maybe he didnt decide to move on to pastures new after all...

Wet1 · 08-29-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gandley

Chinese HD-DVD players ready for q4 07 holiday season in NA.

http://www.venturer.com/news-details.aspx?id=15

No time like the present Mr BDA.

Why is this being glossed over??? This is major (bad) news, especially if WM and other major chains will be carrying them.

I must admit, my confidence in the chances of BR wining this war went from 95% two weeks ago to about 50% this week.

The BDA better have some major announcements VERY soon. It was one thing when the BDA had nearly all the studios in their pocket, it made it much easier to justify spending so much more for the hardware. But, with HD-DVD having closer to half of the studio support (not to mention more releases) and MUCH lower hardware pricing, I fear things could get ugly during the coming holiday season without some major change from the BDA.

Insiders, what say you?

Maximus · 08-29-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by krinkle

Does this mean that Warner is going to start doing separate Blu-ray encodes to take advantage of the superior specs?

Would be great news if its true!

The thinking within WB is still that it is more economically sound to stick with their current course, is what I hear.

The only thing that is going to change is that they will no longer favour HD DVD with timed exclusives a la Matrix, or HD exclusives a la 300.

The last title to feature IME on HD DVD and none on Blu-ray is looking to be Batman Begins, even that could change soon though.

This new lady is really good, no favouritism towards either format it seems.

FourToedStatue · 08-29-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Penton - I know you have some bud's at Fox.

I have a huge favour to ask now that Paramount is exclusive to HD DVD.

When Fox release Titanic in Region B, can you advise them to PLEASE make it all region coding as they will sell a freakin' tonne of it.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

And while you're at it ask them if they can bring the James Bond Collection to Region A

Knight-Errant · 08-29-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Actually the NYT writer was misinformed. The first cut was 2 hours and 32 min. not 2 hours and 20 min. as reported in the story.

And a mod like dialog gvf will tell you that even 12 min. is a lot of “pruning”.
Lol, Gary maybe you should be a film editor ?

It is accurate that ATU was developed by Revolution rather than Sony Pictures.
In the end, though, I think all parties are satisfied with the final product.

Oh that's good. As long as everyone's happy

I know from personal experience how painful it is to live with a badly compromised work.

dialog_gvf · 08-29-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It is accurate that ATU was developed by Revolution rather than Sony Pictures.
In the end, though, I think all parties are satisfied with the final product.

Satisified enough to release it on Blu-ray in only the theatrical form?

That's the modern day test of satisfaction.

Knight-Errant · 08-29-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Satisified enough to release it on Blu-ray in only the theatrical form?

That's the modern day test of satisfaction.

Indeedy. Now film makers can have their cake and eat it. Which is great of course.

BluFox · 08-29-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Titanic's 10th anniversary is this year.

We know it's not coming now.

Do Fox and Paramount have to be on the same page, before this gets released anywhere in the world? I mean do they both have to give thier approval?

Maximus · 08-29-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BluFox

Do Fox and Paramount have to be on the same page, before this gets released anywhere in the world?

Well, I think Fox are the production company so they will have the final say on who gets to release this at what time. Afaik Paramount only have the US/Canada theatrical/HV distribution rights so whether they are allowed to release it or not depends on what Fox want to do.

dialog_gvf · 08-29-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Penton - I know you have some bud's at Fox.

I have a huge favour to ask now that Paramount is exclusive to HD DVD.

When Fox release Titanic in Region B, can you advise them to PLEASE make it all region coding as they will sell a freakin' tonne of it.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

The BDA policy is that catalogue titles are released all region.

The split territory controls are only supposed to be used for new releases to protect theatrical windows.

Ask the HD DVD fans in Europe how they are enjoying Mr. Bean on HD DVD. What, no announcement? I wonder why?

That is what happens without region coding. And that is supposed to be a positive?

Gary

monkyman · 08-29-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wet1

Why is this being glossed over??? This is major (bad) news, especially if WM and other major chains will be carrying them.

I must admit, my confidence in the chances of BR wining this war went from 95% two weeks ago to about 50% this week.

I have the same feeling, but will ride this out till the end (either way).
Even if this player is a piece of crap, they will still sell, and so will their movies.

Are we (Blu) going to see our "Cheap" chinese player this year?

dobyblue · 08-29-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

The BDA policy is that catalogue titles are released all region.

The split territory controls are only supposed to be used for new releases to protect theatrical windows.

Ask the HD DVD fans in Europe how they are enjoying Mr. Bean on HD DVD. What, no announcement? I wonder why?

That is what happens without region coding. And that is supposed to be a positive?

Gary

I know, but yet The Crow is Region B only.

dobyblue · 08-29-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

People also keep forgetting about Japan, which is region A as well, where Fox ALSO owns it. I keep seeing people running to the UK side for the imports but never Japan, where regions aren't an issue ever for Blu

I haven't forgotten about it - I am getting 16 Blocks from there so I can have it with English 5.1 PCM.

08-29-2007, 04:05 AM	#222
benes Member Member since:Nov 2006	Regarding Return to House on Haunted Hill here is what advantage the blu-ray has: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2&postcount=26 Last edited by benes; 08-29-2007 at 04:10 AM.

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