Official Terminator Thread

[zahinn]

Originally Posted by Beast

There's no way it can be better than T3. But glad you liked it.

As for comparing it to Aliens. Yeah... no. Sorry, not a chance in hell.

Without Bale sticking his nose in, the film probably would be been much better.

Comparing it to the two crap Matrix films is right on the money. Hopefully T5 is terminated.

Maybe they can come back to it without McG and especially without "Batman Growl" Bale.

Bale was "okay"...Its poor direction that made this movie fail...

REVIEW:

SPOILER**

I just came home a few hours ago from watching this film....Sadly, I was disappointed. It was terrible. Sam Worthington was great...the rest of the cast was meh... I fail to understand how Connor's wife has time for all that make up in the middle of all this war and chaos.....Danny Elfman's score was sadly dull...very dull...It didnt have that gritty feeling and Erie feeling. Having a T-800 modeled as Arnold was just stupid and pointless..It didnt make the film any stronger...it only made it seem like it knows it will always be the leftover juice from T1 and T2...

There were couple of good idea's here and there...The world seemed like it was really in chaos... Skynet robots in water, air, land, harvester's just grabbing humans and motorcycles patrolling the streets...it had the potential to be haunting...but in the end it wasn't executed right.

oh, the visuals and Action Scenes were great

The plot had some really "WTF..thats it" moments...They took the easy way.

Overall the movie was
5/10

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by DVDave

It's simpler than that actually. Cameron's just looks cooler.

Do you feel differently now that you've seen it? I always cringed looking at the future shots in the first two movies. Loved the style McG brought.

Originally Posted by LynxFX

From what I did manage to grasp, I'm still on the fence as to whether I liked it or not. The story was a nice change from the 3 prior movies of "terminator gets sent back, protector gets sent back, they battle". But change in of itself isn't good, you still need to back it up with a fleshed out story and that is where this movie falls apart. That and Batman...I mean Bale acting like John Connor. I think he stepped into the world of 'overrated' by showing that for these types of movies, he really only has one voice, one way of acting. It was the same character as batman, hell it was the same character as Reign of Fire.

But that's the thing. even though there was no time travel, it still ended up being a 'protector' movie. It was Conner that needed the protecting once again culminating in

[Show spoiler]the ultimate sacrifice (or was it )

The best thing about it was that they were not that obvious.

As far as Bale's voice (I see a lot of complaints about this). He's Bale. Harrison Ford sounds like Harrison Ford. Tom Hanks sounds like Tom Hanks. Sam Worthington sounds like Sam Worthington. I swear, sometimes the gripes I read about on this board just make me chuckle.

Originally Posted by DVDave

That Harvester makes a weird sound. I watched that clip on Pizza Hut's website. I dunno, that plus the Transformers motorcycle Terminators and you're not quite sure what your watching. Transformers? Terminator? Road Warrior?

Loved the sounds in this movie Specially that sound.

Originally Posted by Darth Spartan99

I have two complaints about the film. First it felt imcomplete in a couple spots. By that I mean it went from point A to B a little too Quickly. I expect a Director's Cut on Blu to have at least 25 minutes of extra character building and plot. My other complaint is while action certainitly was not lacking, I wanted to see more man vs t-600/t800s. I had a vision of a civil war type stand off with them facing off againts other, just a plain flat out massacre.

McG has already stated that there's 30 minutes of deleted scenes to be as a bonus feature on the blu-ray. I would imagine if the movie does well enough they may insert some back into the movie. Now that I've seen it I think the movie would have benefited from the

[Show spoiler]love scene between Worthington and Bloodgood. It would've given the audience more understanding to the motivation she has to help him escape.

Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

Well, I'm not saying he showed up somewhere he shouldn't have been...but it was still random. One t-800...just standing there...naked...perfectly lit (cue music).
It was so set up I could puke...but instead I just gave it one of these:

[Show spoiler]The Arnold scene was terrific. I kept expecting not to see him until around the time travel parts. It's good that he's introduced now, after all they have to become prevalent enough for Conner to capture one and reprogram him in the future. What amazed me was how much he looked like the T1 Terminator. Amazing how his face looked.

[GreenScar]

PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS PEOPLE. At least until the movie is out a week.

[DigitalfreakNYC]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

As far as Bale's voice (I see a lot of complaints about this). He's Bale. Harrison Ford sounds like Harrison Ford. Tom Hanks sounds like Tom Hanks. Sam Worthington sounds like Sam Worthington. I swear, sometimes the gripes I read about on this board just make me chuckle.

Oh come ON!!!!!!!!

Have you never seen American Psycho? The Prestige?

Hell...ANY movie he's done besides the Batman movies? Christian's voice is Christian's voice. And it ain't that raspy growl from the Batman (and now Terminator) movies.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC

Oh come ON!!!!!!!!

Have you never seen American Psycho? The Prestige?

Hell...ANY movie he's done besides the Batman movies? Christian's voice is Christian's voice. And it ain't that raspy growl from the Batman (and now Terminator) movies.

I don't understand. When he yelled he sounded like Christian Bale yelling. When he spoke as a guy who's always having to yell (because, you know, he's in a war and all) that has a raspy voice from yelling all the time. He had his normal voice when he

[Show spoiler] broadcast all over the radio

Don't be silly. He sounds like he does in his interviews for the movie. His voice is aging just as he is. The thing that bothers me the most is the lisp.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by DVDave

The harvester sounds though sounded like some 8-bit Nintendo game sounds though. Not sure what they were trying to associate with those sounds other than some distorted digital noise. I like sound design to have some basis of plausible association and I just didn't understand why it was making some 80's sounding primitive digital noises like the sound designer discovered a lost sampled sound on his Akai or something.

I guess everyone's minds eye sees things differently. I didn't get that at all from it. It sounded like Gears struggling, wincing, grinding, changing direction. Interesting that machines building things wouldn't worry about something performing quietly like we do today with our cars for example.

[Diesel]

went back and spoiler-proofed my posts for the people who haven't seen it yet

[PH3AR]

Originally Posted by Diesel

went back and spoiler-proofed my posts for the people who haven't seen it yet

So Diesel since you saw it wat would you give it outta 10?

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

Do you feel differently now that you've seen it? I always cringed looking at the future shots in the first two movies. Loved the style McG brought.

But that's the thing. even though there was no time travel, it still ended up being a 'protector' movie. It was Conner that needed the protecting once again culminating in

[Show spoiler]the ultimate sacrifice (or was it )

The best thing about it was that they were not that obvious.

As far as Bale's voice (I see a lot of complaints about this). He's Bale. Harrison Ford sounds like Harrison Ford. Tom Hanks sounds like Tom Hanks. Sam Worthington sounds like Sam Worthington. I swear, sometimes the gripes I read about on this board just make me chuckle.

Loved the sounds in this movie Specially that sound.

McG has already stated that there's 30 minutes of deleted scenes to be as a bonus feature on the blu-ray. I would imagine if the movie does well enough they may insert some back into the movie. Now that I've seen it I think the movie would have benefited from the

[Show spoiler]love scene between Worthington and Bloodgood. It would've given the audience more understanding to the motivation she has to help him escape.

[Show spoiler]The Arnold scene was terrific. I kept expecting not to see him until around the time travel parts. It's good that he's introduced now, after all they have to become prevalent enough for Conner to capture one and reprogram him in the future. What amazed me was how much he looked like the T1 Terminator. Amazing how his face looked.

i agree with just about everything you said

especially the bale voice thing
his voice he made for batman while in the suit may not have been what everyone thought was "cool" or "good" but i didn't hate it, a few times he sounded king of funny/bad but that was when the character was out of breath and you have to keep in mind its not bruce waynes real voice so of course it would sound off when he's out of breath and still trying to make a fake voice

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by Diesel

went back and spoiler-proofed my posts for the people who haven't seen it yet

Thanks Vin!

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by PH3AR

So Diesel since you saw it wat would you give it outta 10?

umm, i'd give it an easy 9/10
i really liked it alot
it was the movie i expected it to be mostly

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by Diesel

umm, i'd give it an easy 9/10
i really liked it alot
it was the movie i expected it to be mostly

I would agree with that. 9/10 maybe 8 (for what it was). I avoided all the spoilers and as many trailers as was possible before seeing it.

[GGX]

Personally I enjoyed Terminator 3 more than this. It was still enjoyable though. Overall it was good but not great.

[PH3AR]

Originally Posted by Diesel

umm, i'd give it an easy 9/10
i really liked it alot
it was the movie i expected it to be mostly

well thats good enought for me to see it!

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

I would agree with that. 9/10 maybe 8 (for what it was). I avoided all the spoilers and as many trailers as was possible before seeing it.

yea i was thinking 8 at the worst

Originally Posted by PH3AR

well thats good enought for me to see it!

don't worry about the pg-13 thing (if you still are)
the R would have been unnecessary for the film
if they had added alot of f-bombs for the rating it would have felt forced
come to think of it, there wasn't much profanity at all

[iori]

Thought it was good. 8.5/10 Def a blu buy for me. Marcus was awesome, stole the show for me.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by zahinn

Bale was "okay"...Its poor direction that made this movie fail...

You do realize that Bale collaborated with McG on the story. Right?

Christian Bale as John Connor: A soldier in the Resistance waging war against Skynet after it destroyed much of humanity in a nuclear holocaust, who is destined to become humanity's leader. Director McG deemed Bale "the most credible action star in the world" during development.

McG wanted Bale for Marcus, but the actor – for reasons he "can't really remember why" – wanted to play Connor, and that led to the character's role getting expanded in rewrites of the script. Bale was the first person to be cast and signed on for the role in November 2007. McG talked extensively with Bale in the UK about the role while the latter was filming The Dark Knight, and they both agreed to proceed.

Although a fan of the Terminator series, he was at first uninterested, until McG convinced him the story would be character-based and not rely on special effects. They kept working on the story every day, along with Worthington. McG said Bale broke his hand punching a Terminator prop during filming. Bale also spent six to eight hours each day with McG in the editing room to advise the finished product.

Again, if he wouldn't have butted his nose into everything... the film might have been better.

[Diesel]

sounds like his opinion was invited/welcomed to me
not him butting in

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by DVDave

Anybody know if that was Linda Hamilton who recorded Sarah's voice on tape? I'd heard she agreed to provide some "narration" but it's not credited and the voice does sound like an older woman about Linda's current age.

i was hoping the for the "t-2 like narration" that we were supposed to get

it sounded like her on the tape, so i believe it was

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by DVDave

Anybody know if that was Linda Hamilton who recorded Sarah's voice on tape? I'd heard she agreed to provide some "narration" but it's not credited and the voice does sound like an older woman about Linda's current age.

Yes it was her.