In time for the Holiday's, the HD-XA2

[hmurchison]

I don't see anything coming in Blu-Ray players that makes me think consumers will go rushing to the stores to drop a grand +

The Pioneer player is nice with the DNLA and all but how many people have the supporting product to take advantage. Apparently the Pioneer and Sony units will ship without CD support. WTF???

I'm personally excited for the second gen Toshiba equipment. The only downer is losing analog multichannel out on the $499 unit. The A2 is quite simply more full featured than ANY Blu-Ray player beyond the Pioneer.

1080p...check
HDMI 1.3...check
Bi-direction RS232...check
Ethernet...check
Improved DACs...check
Great legacy support...check

Both formats are great but I"m not worried about HD DVD dying until you can purchase a BD player for $500 that doesn't have "Playstation" emblazoned on the front. My mother has a Toshiba TV that is still running strong over a decade later. I don't personally share the negative views of the company.

[zombie]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

Both formats are great...

I've read a few comments like this from you over the last few weeks but I have yet to see any supporting arguments made by you for Blu-ray. If you have made them and I simply missed them please point me in the right direction. Otherwise, I would be grateful if you were to start a separate thread to backup this claim and tell me exactly what you think makes Blu-ray great. The majority of the debating you seem to do here is in defense of HD DVD.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by nyg

I've read a few comments like this from you over the last few weeks but I have yet to see any supporting arguments made by you for Blu-ray. If you have made them and I simply missed them please point me in the right direction. Otherwise, I would be grateful if you were to start a separate thread to backup this claim and tell me exactly what you think makes Blu-ray great. The majority of the debating you seem to do here is in defense of HD DVD.

Nothing new. Anyone who can claim to be excited about anything relating to Toshiba has to be biased.

I know Murch says he likes both formats, but I still find it hard to believe, especially given his post history on AVS or even here.

Sorry murch, but your bias continues to be as plain as day.

At least you've refined your language since about March and we'll all thank you for that.

[Sony1]

If you bother to read your own posts you will see how pathetic and arrogant you are when it comes to other peoples opinions. So what if he thinks that the second generation Toshiba is going to be good, how could he possible know this anyway even though the player hasn't even come out yet?

Never the less I think Toshiba has done quite well with there support of there player, (unlike Samsung). So this war is going long term and way beyond most peoples expectations including yours!

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Sony1

If you bother to read your own posts you will see how pathetic and arrogant you are when it comes to other peoples opinions. So what if he thinks that the second generation Toshiba is going to be good, how could he possible know this anyway even though the player hasn't even come out yet?

Never the less I think Toshiba has done quite well with there support of there player, (unlike Samsung). So this war is going long term and way beyond most peoples expectations including yours!

If you say so, kid.

[JimPullan]

Originally Posted by Sony1

So what if he thinks that the second generation Toshiba is going to be good, how could he possible know this anyway even though the player hasn't even come out yet?

Who's the forum member your referring too ? Please be advised many of us in this home entertainment industry just saw 'in person' the second generation Toshiba Players last week in Denver. Yes, it produced an outstanding image, and will capture the attention of many a buyers when it hits the store shelves. So, my questions is: Who has more credibility, those with the facts or those with presuppositions ? Who's arrogant now ?

Jim

[JTK]

Originally Posted by JimPullan

Who's the forum member your referring too ?

Me, of course.

Please be advised many of us in this home entertainment industry just saw 'in person' the second generation Toshiba Players last week in Denver. Yes, it produced an outstanding image, and will capture the attention of many a buyers when it hits the store shelves. So, my questions is: Who has more credibility, those with the facts or those with presuppositions ? Who's arrogant now ?

Jim

Well said.

It's nice to interact with people such as yourself that actually have FIRSTHAND knowledge and experience vs. idiots that do nothing more than troll and parrot Internet forums with misinformed opinions based SOLEY on hearsay and OTHER people's opinions. After a short while, it's easy to discern who those people are on these forums.

[JimPullan]

Originally Posted by JTK

Me, of course.



Well said.

It's nice to interact with people such as yourself that actually have FIRSTHAND knowledge and experience vs. idiots that do nothing more than troll and parrot Internet forums with misinformed opinions based SOLEY on hearsay and OTHER people's opinions. After a short while, it's easy to discern who those people are on these forums.

I have always wondered what credibility a forum members brings to the table, who they are, etc. I'm no expert engineer designing these wonderful products, but I do represent them in my store. I try to remind myself that in this quickly evolving A/V industry, we are all students amongst students, not the professor, and certainly like any student, we do not have the insight, experience or wisdom of the professor. Their is a benefit of being 'within' this industry that the consumer is not privy too, like actually seeing, hearing and experiencing these new and wonderful toys we adults acquire "Before their Introduced in Stores". I'd like to see more forum members use the term IMO (In my opinion) within their text, so that an IMO does not become a rumor. I use from time to time here the word Presupposition, which means "to presume without the facts" as being true". I don't mind opinions or comments, or even prophecy, but please indicate so, and not mislead our fellow forum members. That's my opinion (TMO=IMO)

Jim