Returned XA2 after four days! - Blu-ray Forum

bferr1 · 01-09-2007, 01:41 PM

I dabbled with an XA2 over the weekend because I was curious about the PQ from the Reon chip. It did look gorgeous, but...

1. When the player is set to 1080p over HDMI, player stops playing when switching to a different input, and restarts when you go back to that input. But I don't get the issue at all when I have the player set to 1080i.

2. Glitchy and inconsistent compatability with U-Control discs like Miami Vice. Watched Vice Sunday night. Overlay menus were sluggish and there was a slight glitching of video very much like early Samsung BD players with DTS BDs. Rebooting the player resulted in smooth, normal playback.

3. A high-pitched distorted squeal sometimes over all output options, including analogs, that can be corrected by rebooting the player or reloading the disc.

4. When I press eject on the remote towards the end of the movie, maybe over end credits, without hitting stop first, the disc stops playing, the display says STOP, but the disc never ejects. Hitting eject again doesn't help. Player is unresponsive. Hard reboot of the player is the only remedy. This has happened a few times.

5. Monday morning, player locked up with King Kong disc when trying to go from Universal screensaver back to main menu. Had to reboot the player.

Came back Monday afternoon, turned the player on and got that high-pitched squeal, like an air raid siren. That was the final straw. So back it goes to Value Electronics, and I'm taking a 5% restocking fee hit.

This is exactly why I'm a B&M guy and will probably never again order electronics online. Nothing against VE-- they were great-- but I always get the lemon!

Blackraven · 01-09-2007, 01:44 PM

Unbeliveable.

I guess Toshiba can't improve their quality just yet....sadly.

Dave · 01-09-2007, 02:09 PM

The same happens to many people. Just look @ the Toshiba problems threads everywhere!
Those players are horrible!

blitz6speed · 01-09-2007, 02:12 PM

That sucks. He shouldnt make you take a re-stocking fee for defective hardware tho. Only if you just didnt like it.

Josh · 01-09-2007, 02:17 PM

I definitely needed another hardware producer for HD DVD to step forward yesterday for me to give it a go. That didn't happen so it looks like I'll be missing Universal movies for at least another 6 months. I am sorry for your problems, but as I understand it, your problems are not isolated just to you.

bferr1 · 01-09-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blitz6speed

That sucks. He shouldnt make you take a re-stocking fee for defective hardware tho. Only if you just didnt like it.

Agreed, but it's not Robert, since he's at CES. It's someone else who's just following policy.

blitz6speed · 01-09-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bferr1

Agreed, but it's not Robert, since he's at CES. It's someone else who's just following policy.

I would wait till he gets back. Thats not a 99 dollar unit you're returning.

bferr1 · 01-09-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joshd2012

I am sorry for your problems, but as I understand it, your problems are isolated just to you.

Not quite. There are a few others out there with one or more of the same issues. At least one other person has reported the high-pitched squeal; another had the eject issue; and I'm willing to bet that the 1080p HDMI switching issue is widespread, just no one's noticed it and reported it yet besides me.

It's a shame, though, because the PQ and SQ of this player really was terrific. A nice piece of hardware.

JTK · 01-09-2007, 02:43 PM

More crap from Toshiba.

No surprise.

Josh · 01-09-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bferr1

Not quite. There are a few others out there with one or more of the same issues. At least one other person has reported the high-pitched squeal; another had the eject issue; and I'm willing to bet that the 1080p HDMI switching issue is widespread, just no one's noticed it and reported it yet besides me.

It's a shame, though, because the PQ and SQ of this player really was terrific. A nice piece of hardware.

My bad. I meant to put "not" in there

Blubaru · 01-09-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshd2012

I definitely needed another hardware producer for HD DVD to step forward yesterday for me to give it a go. That didn't happen so it looks like I'll be missing Universal movies for at least another 6 months. I am sorry for your problems, but as I understand it, your problems are not isolated just to you.

Good for you

It’s not a lemon, it's a Toshiba!

Actually sounds like that could be a good HD-DVD slogan.

WriteSimply · 01-09-2007, 04:24 PM

Ah. Too bad. Begs the question : is it Toshiba's hardware or MS' software? If LG could make a bug-less player without HDi, what does that mean?

Too bad that the HD-DVD supporters are left in a quandary. Keep up the fight or join BD and get better hardware and software. Hmmm.

fuad

JTK · 01-09-2007, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blubaru

Good for you

It’s not a lemon, it's a Toshiba!

Actually sounds like that could be a good HD-DVD slogan.

I LOL'd.

dialog_gvf · 01-09-2007, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bferr1

Came back Monday afternoon, turned the player on and got that high-pitched squeal, like an air raid siren. That was the final straw. So back it goes to Value Electronics, and I'm taking a 5% restocking fee hit.

This is exactly why I'm a B&M guy and will probably never again order electronics online. Nothing against VE-- they were great-- but I always get the lemon!

Oh man.

To be honest, the XA2 is exactly the sort of player that would have got me to buy into HD DVD last spring. I've even toyed with idea recently.

But, in the end, one studio isn't going to cut it. And, I too am a lemon magnet. I'm notorious for it in my family.

I'm shocked Toshiba couldn't get a properly working deck out at a premium price, eight months after the format launch.

Gary

dobyblue · 01-09-2007, 04:52 PM

There is also still the video output reduced to 480p when using DVI problem.

Blubaru · 01-09-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

I LOL'd.

That will be my new sig

01-09-2007, 01:41 PM	#1
bferr1 Banned Member since:Sep 2006 Location:MA Trading Score:18	Returned XA2 after four days! I dabbled with an XA2 over the weekend because I was curious about the PQ from the Reon chip. It did look gorgeous, but... 1. When the player is set to 1080p over HDMI, player stops playing when switching to a different input, and restarts when you go back to that input. But I don't get the issue at all when I have the player set to 1080i. 2. Glitchy and inconsistent compatability with U-Control discs like Miami Vice. Watched Vice Sunday night. Overlay menus were sluggish and there was a slight glitching of video very much like early Samsung BD players with DTS BDs. Rebooting the player resulted in smooth, normal playback. 3. A high-pitched distorted squeal sometimes over all output options, including analogs, that can be corrected by rebooting the player or reloading the disc. 4. When I press eject on the remote towards the end of the movie, maybe over end credits, without hitting stop first, the disc stops playing, the display says STOP, but the disc never ejects. Hitting eject again doesn't help. Player is unresponsive. Hard reboot of the player is the only remedy. This has happened a few times. 5. Monday morning, player locked up with King Kong disc when trying to go from Universal screensaver back to main menu. Had to reboot the player. Came back Monday afternoon, turned the player on and got that high-pitched squeal, like an air raid siren. That was the final straw. So back it goes to Value Electronics, and I'm taking a 5% restocking fee hit. This is exactly why I'm a B&M guy and will probably never again order electronics online. Nothing against VE-- they were great-- but I always get the lemon!

01-09-2007, 02:17 PM	#5
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	I definitely needed another hardware producer for HD DVD to step forward yesterday for me to give it a go. That didn't happen so it looks like I'll be missing Universal movies for at least another 6 months. I am sorry for your problems, but as I understand it, your problems are not isolated just to you. Last edited by Josh; 01-09-2007 at 02:47 PM.

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01-09-2007, 01:44 PM	#2
Blackraven Expert Member Member since:Jan 2005 Location:Makati, Philippines	Unbeliveable. I guess Toshiba can't improve their quality just yet....sadly.

01-09-2007, 02:09 PM	#3
Dave Expert Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Somewhere	The same happens to many people. Just look @ the Toshiba problems threads everywhere! Those players are horrible!

01-09-2007, 02:12 PM	#4
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	That sucks. He shouldnt make you take a re-stocking fee for defective hardware tho. Only if you just didnt like it.

01-09-2007, 02:43 PM	#9
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	More crap from Toshiba. No surprise.

01-09-2007, 04:24 PM	#12
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Ah. Too bad. Begs the question : is it Toshiba's hardware or MS' software? If LG could make a bug-less player without HDi, what does that mean? Too bad that the HD-DVD supporters are left in a quandary. Keep up the fight or join BD and get better hardware and software. Hmmm. fuad

01-09-2007, 04:52 PM	#15
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	There is also still the video output reduced to 480p when using DVI problem.

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