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Old 06-04-2009, 07:54 PM   #1
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Thank you for the information, StimpsonJCat. When I was performing the test I was very precise about getting everything correct. The microphone was mounted on a tripod at ear height and I made sure the different listening positions (there were 3: center, right, and left) were equidistant and there was nothing in the way of the speakers. I performed Audyssey twice and got the same results. Since then I have made a few minor adjustments with the speaker's positions and I will try out your suggestions and repeat the test. Attached are a few pictures. The room size is 11' x 12'. The microphone was placed right where that chair is, in the middle (on a tripod). The right and left positions were about 15 inches from the side of the chair.

Thanks again for your help.

Mark

EDIT: Also, I have not found an option to change the speakers to "Small" or "Large". Has this option been omitted from the new 607?
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:04 PM   #2
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I think in your case (and maybe both) the room has too much gain for the Audyssey chirps. Some have suggested a workaround by using an in line dB attenuator for the mic. I don't know if anyone has actually tried this or where you would get a attenuator for the mic. I've seen in-line RCA attenuators at parts express. The room is very small and the hardwood floors are not helping the situation. Have you thought about an area rug? I think mine helps with the sound in my room.

Your AVR may call it Full Band (LARGE)

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Old 06-04-2009, 08:15 PM   #3
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EDIT: Also, I have not found an option to change the speakers to "Small" or "Large". Has this option been omitted from the new 607?
Onkyo will call it Full Band, which is considered "LARGE". Anything other than Full Band will be considered "small". My humble apology for leaving this info out in my previous post, as I'm sure it confused you.
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StimpsonJCat, thank you for the information. I知 not sure if an area rug will help that much and I also have severe allergies so I would like to avoid that if possible.

Also, I知 trying to better understand how Audyssey works. For a while I just assumed the Audyssey EQ was based on these settings: dB level, speaker distance, and frequency which it gives you after the calibration test. Would it be correct to say, that this EQ runs independently of the aforementioned settings? Also, what would happen if I make a significant change to the dB level AFTER completing the Audyssey calibration? Essentially, I知 wondering if I should just leave the dB levels for the speakers at or around their defaults and just crank up the volume to compensate or if I should set them all to 0 dB and then adjust them to my liking. I知 guessing if I did that, however, the EQ would be negatively affected.

Sorry for all the questions...I知 trying to wrap my mind around all this.

Forsberg21, thank you for the information. No need to apologize. Trust me, I was already confused to begin with.

Take care,

Mark
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:25 PM   #5
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The crossovers, levels, and LARGE/SMALL settings are independent of the Audyssey EQ. You can change them at will after running the calibration.

From batpig's FAQ:

Q. What is Audyssey MultEQ?

A. Audyssey MultEQ is a powerful auto-setup and room calibration program which applies frequency correction to your speakers in an effort to compensate for any acoustical problems inherent to your room.

His website may help answer some questions (even though it is mostly a Denon guide)
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Would it be correct to say, that this EQ runs independently of the aforementioned settings?
Yes, those settings are actually set by the AVR during the calibration, but are independent of Audyssey. Settings before the calibration don't matter because they will be changed during it anyways. Changing the speaker levels will not change anything in Audyssey. But if your levels are -12 then you won't be sure the EQ is really working. This is because if it is truely within Audyssey's range of adjustment (which actually goes to -20 if I remember correctly - the AVR sets the -12 limit on the user adjustment) then you are ok. But if it outside that then the EQ will not be working correctly. Make sense?
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