Why no blank HD-DVD disks?

[supersix4]

lol cant you get jump drives bigger lmao who would want such little storage

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by mngmikes

well if you wanna wait 2 years down the road it would still be cheaper to go with the portable hard drives... right now you can get 2TB for $600.00 in 2 years you would be able to get it for anywhere between $200 and $300 dollars and in your calculations it would cost $400 dollars to get 2,000 GB worth of disk at $5.00 for every 25GB

just accept it... the new storage media is portable hard disk no matter how you look at it, it is the way of the future as is DRM free and NO region codes

You may be right, but what makes that technology out of date? It is mechanical. It is also subject to EMF and magnets. It can be lost/destroyed rather easy.

However, swipe a magnet over a disc (Blu-Ray) the data is still there. Drop it, the data is still there. Materials used? Cheap, light and you can burn it yourself. 10 Discs @ 50gig each, you will have 500gig of data in the space of a hard drive. Sorry, but I prefer a disc over something mechanical that could break down at any time.

[gvortex7]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

You may be right, but what makes that technology out of date? It is mechanical. It is also subject to EMF and magnets. It can be lost/destroyed rather easy.

However, swipe a magnet over a disc (Blu-Ray) the data is still there. Drop it, the data is still there. Materials used? Cheap, light and you can burn it yourself. 10 Discs @ 50gig each, you will have 500gig of data in the space of a hard drive. Sorry, but I prefer a disc over something mechanical that could break down at any time.

Believe it or not, I like both ideas. They both have their pros and cons, but ultimately I will probably have both at my disposal. Just like I do now with 2 big HDD's in my computer and plenty of dvd+r dl discs to burn data and movies on. As a matter or fact, I have 3 computer's data backed up entirely on dvd's. You just never know what may happen to either formats (scratched or unplayable discs or failed hdd's).

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by mngmikes

well if you wanna wait 2 years down the road it would still be cheaper to go with the portable hard drives... right now you can get 2TB for $600.00 in 2 years you would be able to get it for anywhere between $200 and $300 dollars and in your calculations it would cost $400 dollars to get 2,000 GB worth of disk at $5.00 for every 25GB

But that rule has been true for a long time now ... and that hasn't hurt DVD burning. And it will be the same for Blu-ray.

[mngmikes]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

But that rule has been true for a long time now ... and that hasn't hurt DVD burning. And it will be the same for Blu-ray.

i believe the only reason it hasn't hurt the sale of burnable dvd's is the fact dvd rippers are not commonly known by regular people and the sale of downloadable content is just starting to become popular. our future will more than likely consist of a main server in it with every bit of data for the entire house with every picture, movie, music and what ever they can think of. i honestly could see it within the next 5-10 years becoming normal as well which is the crazy thing. it should be pretty awesome. just think a sling media type box that would wirelessly send all of our music and videos to our cars... no more ipods or clutter inside the car.... i know i'm getting a little carried away

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Believe it or not, I like both ideas. They both have their pros and cons, but ultimately I will probably have both at my disposal. Just like I do now with 2 big HDD's in my computer and plenty of dvd+r dl discs to burn data and movies on. As a matter or fact, I have 3 computer's data backed up entirely on dvd's. You just never know what may happen to either formats (scratched or unplayable discs or failed hdd's).

Yep...different strokes, different needs. It's not one or the other. It's both. There are multiple scenarios where HDD just doesn't work as well as disc.

[ToonyLoons]

This makes me wonder. I work at Target and I think I have seen blank Blu disc but no HD-DVD. Now we do not sell any burners for Blu or HD and we do not sell computers in the store either. I will have to check tomorrow night when I work, but I am fairly sure that we do carry blu but no HD. The blu pack in only like a 3 pack of disc.

[ESUNintel]

It just does npt make sense to burn stuff into a format that holds less data than BD disks do. From a business point of view, and if I were backing stuff on disks (which I do sometimes), I rather go with the format that holds the most, which is Blu-ray, and will always be Blu-ray. As soon as the 3-layer HD-DVD disk comes out, we will likely see a 3-layer BD that will hold an amazing 70GB's, if not more.

Fact is, HD-DVD's suck for data.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by The Guardian

A major computer chain in Canada (Canada Computers) has 1x HD DVD-R for $7.19 and 2x BD-R for $12.69...

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...=pl&id=719.862

I wonder how HD DVD-R prices are being driven down without any readily available burners?

Is it simply that they are pricing them at 60% of BD-R to match the 60% of capacity?

[The Guardian]

I'm not sure, this site sells two BD burners (up from 0 last week actually) .. no HD DVD burners yet.

I also note that some of their stores are sold out of the BDs but none appear to have sold many HD DVDs...

[lch]

no hd-dvd burner yet bcos there is none exist.
only standalone hd-dvd dvr is coming out in japan soon.

bd was design with bd-r/re in mind first then move on to bd-rom.

[The Guardian]

So who's buying HD DVD-R discs if there are no burners? You wouldn't think stores would stock them if they weren't selling.

[cueman98]

Originally Posted by mngmikes

i believe the only reason it hasn't hurt the sale of burnable dvd's is the fact dvd rippers are not commonly known by regular people

Do you really think that the average person doesn't at the very least know about dvd ripping software?. There has been free dvd rippers available on the net in one form or another for at least the last 5 years, probably longer.

[blubyyou]

I was reading an article last week I believe it was that stated the BD players are not able to play BD-R or BD-RE that Sony only allowed this to happen for a short period while companies were still working out the kinks on authoring disks. So if this is true then how are we supposed to use a BRD burner to make home video conversions etc and play them on the standalone players? I have also read that Toshiba has introduced all their notebooks with HD DVD drives in tehm for 08 and some include HD DVD burners. So again where does this leave those wanting to burn home movies to BRD when they are apparently not able to work on the standalone players.

[lch]

Originally Posted by blubyyou

I was reading an article last week I believe it was that stated the BD players are not able to play BD-R or BD-RE that Sony only allowed this to happen for a short period while companies were still working out the kinks on authoring disks. So if this is true then how are we supposed to use a BRD burner to make home video conversions etc and play them on the standalone players? I have also read that Toshiba has introduced all their notebooks with HD DVD drives in tehm for 08 and some include HD DVD burners. So again where does this leave those wanting to burn home movies to BRD when they are apparently not able to work on the standalone players.

http://forums.support.roxio.com/inde...howtopic=20850

[radagast]

Originally Posted by 159753

Here is something that puzzles me. Why is it possible to buy blank BD-Rs and BD-REs from my local stationers and blank BD-REs from my local department store, but there are no blank HD-DVD media available? Now, there are BD and HD-DVD drivers in some new computers, plus HD-DVD and Blu-ray players, but no-blank HD-DVD media.

On a related note, I have never seen DVD-R DL discs either. DVD+R DL? Yes. And guess which side Toshiba was on that one? The non-existent DVD-R DL.

[lch]

Originally Posted by radagast

On a related note, I have never seen DVD-R DL discs either. DVD+R DL? Yes. And guess which side Toshiba was on that one? The non-existent DVD-R DL.

have, i have 2 of them for long long time, but still not open from shrinkwarp yet.
i bought wrongly as i forgot my dvd player can't read dvd-r dl.

[gvortex7]

Originally Posted by cueman98

Do you really think that the average person doesn't at the very least know about dvd ripping software?. There has been free dvd rippers available on the net in one form or another for at least the last 5 years, probably longer.

DVD Decrypter and DVDFab Decrypter is all I have to say.

[blubyyou]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

DVD Decrypter and DVDFab Decrypter is all I have to say.

I agree and DVD Fab now supports ripping HD DVD and BR disks.

[Digital Filmmaker]

I just bought four 25GB BD-R's at Fry's for $7.99 each. I also bought a 25GB BD-RE and two 50GB BD-R's for very reasonable prices.

Not a single HD-DUD-R disc in sight.