Target General Deals Thread

[kenbenobi]

My account has 4 purchases of $60 to get $20. But I also still have a $15 off $90 coupon which expires today. I'll go shopping tonight, to see if I can kill 2 birds with one stone.

[tdl797]

I felt like buying a new CD on release date in person in a store for the first time in a while, so I made a trip to Target. They had the sticker out for the new Arcade Fire album. I had already checked online to see if it said they had it in in stock - they 'did.' Asked a worker about it and they said they have 7 copies, but don't know where they are.

I went there a couple of weeks ago and saw that they had several copies of the new Jack White album and the 2 CD Kanye West Donda album, so that made me think they might carry Arcade Fire in store. They have a crap ton on vinyl, just like Walmart, that I doubt will ever sell.

The Movie section is down to 2 halves of opposing sides of an aisle and some end caps and one of those little 4 sided things that the New Releases are on. There is still one Movie end cap thing close to Groceries, but there are a lot of empty spaces.

This has been a shrinking physical media report.

p.s. I bought my mom a knife block set and I swear beyond all get out that the sign said one price, but when I got home I was charged $10 more. Looked online and it shows the higher price. When I researched this I saw a lot of complaints about the knives rusting and not being machine washable, so we will probably take them back anyway.

This has been a misleading(or misread) sign report.

[craigbarr2003]

My offer is 4 orders of $40 to get $15.

[mport5150]

Originally Posted by erixon20

I just got a Target Circle Bonus of 3 qualifying purchases of 70 or more to earn a 20 rewards in Target Circle earnings. Expires 5/26. Now is a good time for the B2G1 free sale.

Originally Posted by Jennifer Lawrence Fan

I got a target circle bonus on 2 purchases of $40 or more and get a $10 target circle earnings

Also when looking in the app for upcoming new releases. It says online only. This is stuff for The Batman, Uncharted and so fourth. Is Target gonna stop selling new releases in stores. And what they have is what they have in stores till its gone?

Originally Posted by movielib

I have to make three purchases of $45 to get that $10.

I'm not thrilled.

I can do better buying stuff from Best Buy with their ongoing 10% off codes.

Originally Posted by Brown Jenkin

I got a 3/60/20 deal.

Originally Posted by neoz

Just checked mine and got.

Make 3 qualifying purchases of $50 or more to earn a $20.

I got 4 purchases of $70 or more to earn a $25 reward

[erixon20]

Originally Posted by Dr. Seymour Love

30% off well being books next week!

You know how I would be a well being....if they had a Buy 2 Get 1 Free sale REEEAAAALLLYY SOOOON.

[strumdogg]

It seems like everything averages out to "Spend a lot three times, then get ~10% off the next time."

I've fallen for it before, but not on any of those terms.

[mport5150]

Originally Posted by strumdogg

It seems like everything averages out to "Spend a lot three times, then get ~10% off the next time."

I've fallen for it before, but not on any of those terms.

The only way this works out is that if they had a B2G1 Free sale and the total before discounts was $70. Make 4 purchases and call it a day as you’re making the purchases regardless.

[MazeRunner]

My offer is spend $30 twice and get $10 off.

I only get sparkling water and shampoo at Target though and the occasional blu-ray.

[taiwan]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

Forest and trees.

I;m more concerned that Ingram entertainment has lost it's contract with Allied Vaughn entirely and it's just not related to any sort of potential upcoming sale.

Ingram is the key to this and not Target since Target never touched those items anyway. at most they were just the order takers.

If Ingram has dropped AV (or AV dropped Ingram) this leaves Alliance as the only wholesaler involved now. As far as I'm aware Walmart, BBY, Amazon, all the DD sibs source their AV disc through Alliance. If Ingram is out then one major rat now owns the Cheese distribution with the possibility that Allied Vaughn might be pulling some or all it's contracts back into the home office. If they cut off Alliance (or make pricing terms much stricter) then all of the end users may be in for a very bad surprise.

Would it be reasonable to think they'd pull everything and make every item flow through A/V- Moviezyng as a single source? Seems unlikely, but as Anderson, and B&T, and the half dozen other wholesalers pulled out, went bankrupt, sold out (voluntarily or or not) it doesn't seem it's benefitted the buyer.

So Ingram and Alliance are the distributors of media? Does it have to do with Target dropping Warner MOD titles on the last week of April? I had an order on April 22 to fulfill Target circle offer. But the item on that order became "product not available" when I clicked on it. So I went back and I saw every single Warner MOD (Godzilla vs Kong 3D, Teen Titans Complete Series, Dune 3D) and Universal MOD (Croods New Age 3D, Trolls World Tour 3D) that I ordered last month were removed from Target.

I see Amazon Walmart and Barnes & Nobles still carry the titles I mentioned.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by taiwan

So Ingram and Alliance are the distributors of media? Does it have to do with Target dropping Warner MOD titles on the last week of April? I had an order on April 22 to fulfill Target circle offer. But the item on that order became "product not available" when I clicked on it. So I went back and I saw every single Warner MOD (Godzilla vs Kong 3D, Teen Titans Complete Series, Dune 3D) and Universal MOD (Croods New Age 3D, Trolls World Tour 3D) that I ordered last month were removed from Target.

I see Amazon Walmart and Barnes & Nobles still carry the titles I mentioned.

Ingram handles all or a huge majority or Target Media - they stock the shelves and ship the online orders. If Ingram is no longer involved with AV, the Target has no product to sell.

Ingram and Alliance are the 2 major Media Distributors left in the US and I suspect Ingram is running a really distant 2nd. They are the wholesalers as well as running most stores fulfillment. There is a reason why most discs come from teh same Sheherdsville, KY address regardless which storefront you order from and the 4 Ingram warehouses handle Target and seem to be shipping GRUV product now. The Alliance warehouse is literally next door to both Amazon and BBY warehouses in Kentucky and very likely the product flows from Alliance to BBY/Amazon then to the customer.

BN, Amazon, BBY, Walmart, etc are all supplied by (or mostly by) Alliance Entertainment.

It's all speculation since I don't have any contact with any legal stuff, but since every AV disappeared suddenly it seems like it has to be an Ingram issue amd no reason to believe it has anything to do with future sale. The number of AV discs carried by Ingram/Target had been steadily declining anyway -- they were down to around 1/2 of the items over the last couple years, seemed to have very low amts of actual stock which it why things always went out of stock almost immediately.

The one interesting Wild Card is suddenly MovieZyng is taking a much more active interest in selling product at the same time that AV products disappear from Target. It makes me wonder if those 2 events are somehow related

It could also be something temporary, a lapse in the contracts, something permanent, or a negotiating tactic on behalf of Target or Ingram.

[taiwan]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

It could also be something temporary, a lapse in the contracts, something permanent, or a negotiating tactic on behalf of Target or Ingram.

I hope so, you know more than I do. Target removing Warner MOD is a huge loss for me. They could have just make the item OOS, instead what they did with Warner MOD and Universal MOD was total removal from Target system. That's why one of my friend said it is probably permanent. This is the product link from my order in mid April for Teen Titans Complete Series:

https://www.target.com/p/teen-titans...-/-/A-78864046

When Target does B2G1, the studios I mostly order were KL, Funimation, Vinegar Syndrome, and 3D Blu-rays from Warner and Universal which are all MOD, and some Warner MOD. So far every KL and VS titles I ordered in the past 4 years are still with Target. Funimation has a few missing ones but those were also unavailable from Amazon. I'm not aware of other studios that have their product line completely removed from Target like Warner MOD did, though there are probably some studios I've never purchase movies from.

[gudemameshiba]

Originally Posted by taiwan

They could have just make the item OOS, instead what they did with Warner MOD and Universal MOD was total removal from Target system. That's why one of my friend said it is probably permanent.

To be fair, other titles have been removed en masse and then returned in the past. (All Criterions at one point IIRC?)

[50strat54]

Is Allied Vaughn the main distributor?

What I am asking is does Allied sell direct and also supply product to both Ingram and Alliance.

You get bigger discounts by buying direct but buying from a one stop is sometimes better for a store as the one stop will continue to churn merchandise, take back old unsold stock, supply new stock with very little cost to the retailer.

The only thing is that the retailer doesn't get the best discount by buying from a one stop but also do not have to warehouse the merchandise which is itself a tremendous cost savings.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

Is Allied Vaughn the main distributor?

What I am asking is does Allied sell direct and also supply product to both Ingram and Alliance.

You get bigger discounts by buying direct but buying from a one stop is sometimes better for a store as the one stop will continue to churn merchandise, take back old unsold stock, supply new stock with very little cost to the retailer.

The only thing is that the retailer doesn't get the best discount by buying from a one stop but also do not have to warehouse the merchandise which is itself a tremendous cost savings.

Welp, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that yet another company we discuss regularly is based in the Twin Cities, MN. Target, Best Buy, Mill Creek, and probably others I'm forgetting.

AV MOD Collection list of studios and networks they represent: PDF

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

Is Allied Vaughn the main distributor?

What I am asking is does Allied sell direct and also supply product to both Ingram and Alliance.

You get bigger discounts by buying direct but buying from a one stop is sometimes better for a store as the one stop will continue to churn merchandise, take back old unsold stock, supply new stock with very little cost to the retailer.

The only thing is that the retailer doesn't get the best discount by buying from a one stop but also do not have to warehouse the merchandise which is itself a tremendous cost savings.

I don't know exactly the sequence, but AV runs the production of those discs
so I assume they parcel the discs to various other wholesalers like AES and some direct sales to stores. I'd also like to know whether Bullmoose and a couple of the other independent order from AV or via a different service.

There are several things in the AV universe that are a black hole for me. I'd love to know more about what makes their MOD pressed disc model that much different than other boutique labels who surely don't have production runs that much different than many WAC items

[Gold Ranger]

Who supplies Redbox and Netflix?
Who supplies the few and far between rental shops?

[hariseldon]

I'm not sure. Family Video contracted their online sales through Ingram so I'm guessing they had some sort of deal for their Rental Disc as well.

I would assume the remaining stores go through one of the wholesalers 9either AES or Ingram or possibly one of the smaller specialty wholesalers) though there were plenty of stories in the heydey of rental stores and in-store Discs of shills for the Local rental stores showing up at BestBuy, Walmart, etc on release day and wiping out shelf stock for those items that had a 30+ day exclusive non-rental period.

[gudemameshiba]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

There were plenty of stories in the heydey of rental stores and in-store Discs of shills for the Local rental stores showing up at BestBuy, Walmart, etc on release day and wiping out shelf stock for those items that had a 30+ day exclusive non-rental period.

Well, for rental stores with profit-sharing contracts (e.g. with Rentrak, which is now Comscore) it was a breach of contract to add additional copies to inventory unless profit was also shared on the rentals of each copy sourced elsewhere. (There was an initial fee per item, then some amount per rental, and then some amount of the final sale price when it was sold or when the term lapsed, whichever came first. I think those "rental copies" were also sourced from Alliance.)

The owner of my local video store (which closed seven years ago, and then I moved anyway) used to order a certain number of copies in advance from the distributor and then pick up a bunch more at retail (usually from Costco) simply because the price offered at big box stores was often better than the price he would get from the distributor, and even when it wasn't, he could open copies only as he needed them and return the rest, because terms for consumer return to a big box are much friendlier than to the distributors. I don't know if he used to wipe out shelf stock, but it was always for titles that were not subject to the terms of whatever agreement. Just old-school first sale doctrine plus trying to find the best price.

For what it's worth his distributors were Alliance and Baker & Taylor. As far as I know, Alliance still distributes DVDs? Wikipedia says B&T's "entertainment products division" was sold to Ingram in 2019.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Who supplies Redbox

Redbox used to send people out on Monday at midnight to local stores to buy BD's to put in the machine. Not sure what they do now.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by neoz

Redbox used to send people out on Monday at midnight to local stores to buy BD's to put in the machine. Not sure what they do now.

Monday at midnight, meaning they waited overnight for the store to open the next morning to get first dibs?