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Old 09-04-2007, 06:59 PM   #1
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Hmm, guess I won't be getting a Zune now either...
Don't get an Ipod.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:02 PM   #2
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Maybe we should somehow help them and bring them to the blu-ray side!
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:48 PM   #3
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Maybe we should somehow help them and bring them to the blu-ray side!
We have had this discussion. At least I made a point of bringing it up several times. The solution (to me) is a combo player. They can keep their current stock of movies and migrate to blu-ray. Thus only loosing the cost of an existing HD-DVD only player and not hundreds in movie costs.

Some argue this will only help HD-DVD to thrive. But my point is that when Paramount finally gives it up and goes back to blu-ray, the point becomes moot. BECAUSE HD-DVD WILL NO LONGER BE MADE. So what if it helps sustain it a little longer? The long term plan is to phase it out.

Maybe I am saying it wrong. No one seems to understand my point.

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Old 09-05-2007, 02:53 PM   #4
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The solution (to me) is a combo player. They can keep their current stock of movies and migrate to blu-ray. Thus only loosing the cost of an existing HD-DVD only player and not hundreds in movie costs.

Some argue this will only help HD-DVD to thrive. But my point is that when Paramount finally gives it up and goes back to blu-ray, the point becomes moot. BECAUSE HD-DVD WILL NO LONGER BE MADE. So what if it helps sustain it a little longer? The long term plan is to phase it out.

Maybe I am saying it wrong. No one seems to understand my point.
We get your point, but don't believe it would play out the same way you do. If combo-players exist, they will be more expensive (who wants to pay more?) Also, why would Paramount switch over to Blu-Ray in 18 months if everybody has dual-format players?

The idea here, is to FORCE studios to support BD-50s so we can get a higher quality product vs. a very sub-par version of a movie (constained to 30 GBs). This is already apparent in the fact that Blu-Ray movies contain MANY more lossless audio tracks than does HD-DVD. Why should Blu-Ray owners be subjected to crappy quality encodes due to space constraints? Dual-format players are BAD for this war. It's a bad compromise, because studios are immediately going to encode to whichever format costs them less. In the end, the consumer would lose.
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:55 PM   #5
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we should get itunes to push bd content or w/e even tho sony was competing with them
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we should get itunes to push bd content or w/e even tho sony was competing with them
Well, one thing Apple and Sony have in common is the adoption and preferred use of AVC/H.264. Sure, HD DVD supports it as Blu-ray supports VC-1. But which is the most supported by the industry and broadcasters (especially in Europe)?

When iTunes hopefully starts selling content in HD, it will, due to bandwidth cost-benefit, most likely be 720p like the few HD podcasts available. This can easily be considered the little brother to Blu-ray.
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Don't get an Ipod.
Seriously? I love my iPod. Who else does true lossless?
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:32 PM   #8
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Don't get an Ipod.
No chance of that happening. In case anyone is wondering, pulling that damn battery out was a PITA. I had to 'modify' a few of them for a specific use.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:43 PM   #9
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Actually, as posted in another thread, think it's because HD became so addicted to Sony-basher complaints about the early '06 proto-models (eg. no dual-layer disks, no upconverting), that they didn't notice the calendar changing, and didn't want to lose their one good act--

At first, they got that rush of confidence, but now, every time they try to resurrect "Uh...'PS3's can't do PnP'?" they've become the Kid Burping At the Table, who just can't get that sweet, sweet attention back anymore, no matter how hard they try.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:50 PM   #10
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I once heard some very odd and rather true advice.

You can't always believe what a company boasts of themselves. Listen to what the competition has to say about them. If the strength of the competition is bad mouthing the other guy, you go with the other guy.

People don't bother to bad mouth competion of no threat to them. They focus on the strongest opposer. Much in the same reason Christianity is always under attack by Evolutionists, politicians, other religious groups, etc.

Get my point?
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I once heard some very odd and rather true advice.

You can't always believe what a company boasts of themselves. Listen to what the competition has to say about them. If the strength of the competition is bad mouthing the other guy, you go with the other guy.

People don't bother to bad mouth competion of no threat to them. They focus on the strongest opposer. Much in the same reason Christianity is always under attack by Evolutionists, politicians, other religious groups, etc.

Get my point?
its the same in politics ... its funny tho to see how ignorant some people can be lol
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:24 PM   #12
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they love(hate) us sooooo much because we have better movies then they do and they only has about 10% of the movies that we want (Batman Begins, Transformers, )
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:44 PM   #13
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there should be a deal where you trade in your hddvd machine and get half off a blurayplayer. They have those deals all the time for switching software. Then take those machines out and destroy them get them off the market.
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