Bring out the big catalog titles please

[BaronVH]

Now please don't think I am complaining, as there have been some absolutely excellent titles released on Blu-ray. Close Encouters, Casablanca, Godfather, the list goes on and on. I think the format is ready for some really heavy hitters. Jaws, E.T., Lawrence of Arabia, Gone with the Wind, Bridge on the River Kwai, Guns of Navarone, and the like. It seems we get one huge title for every 50 Escape from L.A.'s. Now, I for one love all types of films. I just think the format has moved beyond the niche market and is ready for its heavy hitters at a greater rate. And maybe those obscure little Lucas films before they are changed much more.

[OhDamaso]

Dude...............Escape from L.A. is on blu-ray?!!??

[OhDamaso]

Nevermind, I just saw the listing.

[Vincent Vega82]

These companies really just want to string us along w/crappy titles just to hold us off until they release their good stuff. Case in point is LOTR theatrical editions. Just give us the extended editions. It's the same old thing as when dvd came out.

[TheForce8686]

Another one of these threads? Someone made a smart ass comment to me when I said there was one of these threads every week but as you see I am right.

[Kor-ray]

E.t!

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by BaronVH

Now please don't think I am complaining, as there have been some absolutely excellent titles released on Blu-ray. Close Encouters, Casablanca, Godfather, the list goes on and on. I think the format is ready for some really heavy hitters. Jaws, E.T., Lawrence of Arabia, Gone with the Wind, Bridge on the River Kwai, Guns of Navarone, and the like. It seems we get one huge title for every 50 Escape from L.A.'s. Now, I for one love all types of films. I just think the format has moved beyond the niche market and is ready for its heavy hitters at a greater rate. And maybe those obscure little Lucas films before they are changed much more.

Nice HAL avatar as well in case no one mentioned it.

[Nutbunnies]

1st, go take a business course.

2nd, when you're done with that, go look at the original release dates for DVDs. Go look at how long some of the titles you want so bad took after the initial DVD launch.

The Force is right. On every Blu-Ray forum, there are multiple threads like this one every week. People just do not understand business at all. It's "I want it, I want it now, and I want it cheap. Why don't the studios do what I ask them to do?"

[BaronVH]

Originally Posted by Nutbunnies

1st, go take a business course.

2nd, when you're done with that, go look at the original release dates for DVDs. Go look at how long some of the titles you want so bad took after the initial DVD launch.

The Force is right. On every Blu-Ray forum, there are multiple threads like this one every week. People just do not understand business at all. It's "I want it, I want it now, and I want it cheap. Why don't the studios do what I ask them to do?"

First of all, I certainly did not want to turn this into a "I WANT THIS NOW" thread. Not my intent at all. I suppose I should not have even mentioned any titles by name. My point was that the format seems to be on the precipice of mainstream acceptance, and to push it over that edge, the rate of high quality titles should hopefully increase. To answer your first point I have a business degree. It has worked out for me well. I really enjoy my home theater that I paid cash for. Secondly, you cannot really compare DVD to Blu-ray effectively. The jump from VHS to DVD was huge. While I appreciate and love the jump from DVD to Blu-ray, many people do not see the benefits, and I would hope actions by the studio could change that. I am sold on the format. I know full well the studios have a formula that projects profits relative to a release schedule. I also know you cannot have everything released at once. I would prefer a well done Lawrence of Arabia to a poor transfer to get a release out. My only point, and I thought it was a simple one, was that it would seem that the rate of the AAA titles should begin to increase. If this topic is too offensive, I can suggest people with psychology degrees that can help.

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by BaronVH

First of all, I certainly did not want to turn this into a "I WANT THIS NOW" thread. Not my intent at all. I suppose I should not have even mentioned any titles by name. My point was that the format seems to be on the precipice of mainstream acceptance, and to push it over that edge, the rate of high quality titles should hopefully increase. To answer your first point I have a business degree. It has worked out for me well. I really enjoy my home theater that I paid cash for. Secondly, you cannot really compare DVD to Blu-ray effectively. The jump from VHS to DVD was huge. While I appreciate and love the jump from DVD to Blu-ray, many people do not see the benefits, and I would hope actions by the studio could change that. I am sold on the format. I know full well the studios have a formula that projects profits relative to a release schedule. I also know you cannot have everything released at once. I would prefer a well done Lawrence of Arabia to a poor transfer to get a release out. My only point, and I thought it was a simple one, was that it would seem that the rate of the AAA titles should begin to increase. If this topic is too offensive, I can suggest people with psychology degrees that can help.

I totally agree with you. I would like to see more impressive catalogue titles, I do see where this will take time. I prefer quality audio and video over quantity. I'd like to see all movies look as good as Blade Runner. If the director truly loves their product they will take the love and attention Ridley Scott did with Blade Runner and give us a quality product.

[Nutbunnies]

One more thing, have you not noticed all of the AAA titles coming out this year? Just off the top of my head you have Snow White, Wizard of Oz, Gone With The Wind, Lord of the Rings Collection, and the Indiana Jones Collection. That's only the stuff that's been announced too. Maybe we'll get Back to the Future, or something like that. All of those listed are either Disney, Warner, or Paramount. Universal hasn't announced their big holiday title(s). Same with Sony and Fox.

Also I think Lawrence of Arabia is slated for December.

[Vincent Vega82]

I wonder what percentage of homes have a high def tv. I know I would have never bought my PS3 or be intrested in Blu-ray w/out a HD TV. I wonder what percentage of homes in the U.S. have HD tvs' as their main tv. In addition I'd never buy a BD player unless I had at least a 30" HD TV.

[doctorsteve]

<facetiousness>YEAH! Everybody that wants big movies is just DUMB! Don't you know how business works??? Jeez! </facetiousness>

I guess what bothers me most is the notion that if we sit back and take what the studios keep giving us, we will still be in this position ANOTHER year from now, and the same statements will still be issued from each side. One side says. "Please give us more big releases", the other side: "Don't you understand business???".

As was deftly noted by others, Blu adoption is NOT identical to DVD adoption, and I think it's a good and right thing to raise your voice to say what you'd like from these companies.

Look at Criterion - taking a survey of what you'd like to have released next, and giving it! Here's an idea - sometimes companies actually listen to their customers! I say, the more folks ask for something, the greater the chance of being heard. Sure there's multiple threads about this, must mean there's more than one person that want's more big name movies to come out.

Maybe the studios will use their forum trollers to get wind of a growing disquiet amongst current consumers and forgo their current release plans, and boost the number of big releases. If they are going to entice new consumers into the Blu fold, they're going to have to bait the hook!

Cheers, Doc.

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

<facetiousness>YEAH! Everybody that wants big movies is just DUMB! Don't you know how business works??? Jeez! </facetiousness>

I guess what bothers me most is the notion that if we sit back and take what the studios keep giving us, we will still be in this position ANOTHER year from now, and the same statements will still be issued from each side. One side says. "Please give us more big releases", the other side: "Don't you understand business???".

As was deftly noted by others, Blu adoption is NOT identical to DVD adoption, and I think it's a good and right thing to raise your voice to say what you'd like from these companies.

Look at Criterion - taking a survey of what you'd like to have released next, and giving it! Here's an idea - sometimes companies actually listen to their customers! I say, the more folks ask for something, the greater the chance of being heard. Sure there's multiple threads about this, must mean there's more than one person that want's more big name movies to come out.

Maybe the studios will use their forum trollers to get wind of a growing disquiet amongst current consumers and forgo their current release plans, and boost the number of big releases. If they are going to entice new consumers into the Blu fold, they're going to have to bait the hook!

Cheers, Doc.

I assume that they slowly release their big titles is that if they released them all in 1 or 2 weeks people wouldn't want to spend all of that money all at once. They'd feel better dishing that money out over the course of a year or so. However I do agree that their solid titles come out too freekin slowly!

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by OhDamaso

Dude...............Escape from L.A. is on blu-ray?!!??

Escape from L.A. should have been called Escape from the movie theatre!

What about Mr. Mom? I remember that movie from when I was a kid. Keaton fighting with the vacuum and the kid with his blankee.

[BaronVH]

Originally Posted by Nutbunnies

One more thing, have you not noticed all of the AAA titles coming out this year? Just off the top of my head you have Snow White, Wizard of Oz, Gone With The Wind, Lord of the Rings Collection, and the Indiana Jones Collection. That's only the stuff that's been announced too. Maybe we'll get Back to the Future, or something like that. All of those listed are either Disney, Warner, or Paramount. Universal hasn't announced their big holiday title(s). Same with Sony and Fox.

Also I think Lawrence of Arabia is slated for December.

Have any of these been announced or just rumored? LOTR has, but only the theatrical and that is just Fellowship, but I do understand that they plan on a huge release when the Hobbit nears. Snow White has been announced, and I must say that Disney has really made an effort for the format. Snow White will release on Blu-ray before DVD. That is the level of commitment that I am talking about, but they are only one studio. And they cannot release too many at once or nobody will buy, of course.

[Vendetta-akk]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

I wonder what percentage of homes have a high def tv. I know I would have never bought my PS3 or be intrested in Blu-ray w/out a HD TV. I wonder what percentage of homes in the U.S. have HD tvs' as their main tv. In addition I'd never buy a BD player unless I had at least a 30" HD TV.

I looked into this alittle bit. If you average the score of a number of studies reporting on US homes with HDTVS you come up with close to 1/3 of US Homes reported having HDTVs.

[benricci]

Tons of blockbuster releases already on the format and a lot already announced for release by the end of the year, and all people can do is bit*h and complain....

I don't think it's reasonable or realistic to expect the floodgates to open so quickly for what is essentially a new format (the format war only ended about a year ago). These things take time, and HD adoption isn't exactly through the roof quite yet.

Not to mention the fact that if everything were released all at once, you'd just complain that you couldn't afford it all, and how you wished they would stagger releases to ease the hurt on your wallet.

I actually like getting excited when new things are announced, or an old favorite is released unexpectedly. You'll get much more enjoyment out of the format if you have things to look forward to and keep you interested, rather than just complain about how slowly things are coming out.

[BaronVH]

Originally Posted by benricci

Tons of blockbuster releases already on the format and a lot already announced for release by the end of the year, and all people can do is bit*h and complain....

I don't think it's reasonable or realistic to expect the floodgates to open so quickly for what is essentially a new format (the format war only ended about a year ago). These things take time, and HD adoption isn't exactly through the roof quite yet.

Not to mention the fact that if everything were released all at once, you'd just complain that you couldn't afford it all, and how you wished they would stagger releases to ease the hurt on your wallet.

I actually like getting excited when new things are announced, or an old favorite is released unexpectedly. You'll get much more enjoyment out of the format if you have things to look forward to and keep you interested, rather than just complain about how slowly things are coming out.

I agree with what you are saying, and please, please don't take my posts as complaints. They are not. My home video catalog is currently at about 60/40 in favor of DVD and shrinking every day. Some studios have released tons of the movies I am talking about: Godfather, Patton, Master and Commander, etc., etc. I guess the best way to say what I am referring to is that in the histories of VHS and DVD, you did not get as many obscure titles without big tentpole releases as well. While a comparison is certainly not valid as home video tastes and economies have changed (it took Star Wars a long time on both of those formats), they had a greater ratio of top notch movies in relation to the B-films. It would have been much longer to get K-19, sex lies and videotapes, and others than it would for something like Jaws. I agree that we have gotten some exceptional movies released. Maybe the issue is with the cost to get those movies ready for release. Certainly people would be more forgiving with a less than stellar image quality with Point Break than they would with Braveheart. Or maybe I am making a mountain out of a mole hill and let them just release as they see fit. I am just really paranoid of the groups out there that want the format to fail, a/k/a subpar download services, and the larger ratio of A list films would serve to cement the market.

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by benricci

Tons of blockbuster releases already on the format and a lot already announced for release by the end of the year, and all people can do is bit*h and complain....

I don't think it's reasonable or realistic to expect the floodgates to open so quickly for what is essentially a new format (the format war only ended about a year ago). These things take time, and HD adoption isn't exactly through the roof quite yet.

Not to mention the fact that if everything were released all at once, you'd just complain that you couldn't afford it all, and how you wished they would stagger releases to ease the hurt on your wallet.

I actually like getting excited when new things are announced, or an old favorite is released unexpectedly. You'll get much more enjoyment out of the format if you have things to look forward to and keep you interested, rather than just complain about how slowly things are coming out.

yeah but, Blu-ray discs have been around since 2004/05 that's 4 years. DVD launched around 1999 4 years later in 2003 DVD was the main media format in the home and 99.9% of catalogue blockbuster titles were out by then. So the crawling pace of blockbuster titles being released is a bit confusing. I wonder how difficult the transfer process is compared to Blu-ray than the transfer to DVD.