Kino Lorber Studio Classics

[HenryHill]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

We're not. Like some other genres, they're better suited for DVD releases.

I obviously don't have access to KL's sales forecast Excel files, but as much as I love the Frankie/Annette films there just isn't a huge market for them. They're strictly nostalgia pieces for people of a certain age.

[cjamescook]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

It's one of the worst selling titles we ever released, anyone stupid enough to release them on 4K would lose one's shirt in the process.

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

I felt insulted there. They could've worded it better.

Politely, I disagree. It really is just the blunt truth. I'd rather hear it than nothing at all.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by HenryHill

I obviously don't have access to KL's sales forecast Excel files, but as much as I love the Frankie/Annette films there just isn't a huge market for them. They're strictly nostalgia pieces for people of a certain age.

I could make the same argument about dozens of titles Kino have released. Furthermore, there are dozens of other titles that don't even have that much going for them.

The Beach Party films have an appeal beyond just nostalgia for the reasons I alluded to previously (the appearance of "Little" Stevie Wonder as a child, Don Rickles, the late career resurgence they brought to Buster Keaton, etc.)

The Beach Party films also appeal to much of the same demographic as the Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine which Kino are seeing fit to re-release.

But, whatever, Kino are dead set against it, so hopefully another label will put the rest of the films out instead. Ideally it would be Olive, but who knows what is going on with them these days. Maybe this new label Sandpiper will take a chance on them.

[hammer99]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

I could make the same argument about dozens of titles Kino have released. Furthermore, there are dozens of other titles that don't even have that much going for them.

The Beach Party films have an appeal beyond just nostalgia for the reasons I alluded to previously (the appearance of "Little" Stevie Wonder as a child, Don Rickles, the late career resurgence they brought to Buster Keaton, etc.)

The Beach Party films also appeal to much of the same demographic as the Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine which Kino are seeing fit to re-release.

But, whatever, Kino are dead set against it, so hopefully another label will put the rest of the films out instead. Ideally it would be Olive, but who knows what is going on with them these days. Maybe this new label Sandpiper will take a chance on them.

I would think Beach Party would sell more than either Dr. Goldfoot. I also think it would sell more than quite a bit of the Bob Hope’s that Kino has put out, as well as say any of the obscure pre-Code’s or TV movies. But then I look up Beach Blanket Bingo on this site and see that it’s only in 176 collections while being out for over 7 years.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by HenryHill

I obviously don't have access to KL's sales forecast Excel files, but as much as I love the Frankie/Annette films there just isn't a huge market for them. They're strictly nostalgia pieces for people of a certain age.

Paramount disagrees with you since they're giving the 1987 reunion film the Paramount Presents treatment.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Paramount disagrees with you since they're giving the 1987 reunion film the Paramount Presents treatment.

The same Paramount who thought it would be smart to wait until 2021 to start releasing the majority of their catalog titles. A dead buyer is a good one!

[hammer99]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Paramount disagrees with you since they're giving the 1987 reunion film the Paramount Presents treatment.

Excellent point! I’d rather have Beach Party, but I already pre-ordered Back To The Beach.

[hammer99]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

The same Paramount who thought it would be smart to wait until 2021 to start releasing the majority of their catalog titles. A dead buyer is a good one!

Well, I’m not dead yet, and Paramount has made me very happy the past 12 months or so. Kino is still #1 though.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

The same Paramount who thought it would be smart to wait until 2021 to start releasing the majority of their catalog titles. A dead buyer is a good one!

Whoever the studio took on to head the Home Video Dept. must be a big fan of physical media. To be perfectly honest I didn't think they would last this long - the revolving doors at these studios are very busy. Better late than never I guess but, yes, the studio was always stingy and clueless even during the early HD revolution. Many of their early DVDs were letterboxed (non-anamorphic) and had very few extras. Interactive menus and scene selections were among the highlights lol.

[vortexx]

KLI, Theoretical question - once most or all the popular titles get released or re-released, do you think that there might be demand for titles that are less popular at the moment or from genres that might be less popular? Example, some very obscure titles or titles that are predicted not to do too well. Another example genres like blaxsploitation, that seem to be less popular at the moment.

[SkinnyTwist]

Originally Posted by Dan_Shane

I feel some are too easily offended, especially when the negativity is not directed squarely at the OP. KLSC has done me far more good than harm, and I can accept a little vinegar in exchange for the wonderful work the company has done.

To quote the immortal Warren Oates, "Lighten up, Francis."

Given the popularity of your response and the lack of popularity of mine, I am clearly out of touch with this group and its ideals. (Far from the first time, for me.) And thus, I shall return to lurk mode where I belong.

pe@ce, y'all

[captveg]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Whoever the studio took on to head the Home Video Dept. must be a big fan of physical media. To be perfectly honest I didn't think they would last this long - the revolving doors at these studios are very busy. Better late than never I guess but, yes, the studio was always stingy and clueless even during the early HD revolution. Many of their early DVDs were letterboxed (non-anamorphic) and had very few extras. Interactive menus and scene selections were among the highlights lol.

Didn't Paramount hire the guy who started the Vestron line for Lionsgate? I believe I read that somewhere.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by hammer99

Well, I’m not dead yet, and Paramount has made me very happy the past 12 months or so. Kino is still #1 though.

Same here, but sadly many are.

[seagal]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

Neither of these are with MGM.

Yeah, you're right. "Buddy Buddy" is with Warner, I guess.

But "The Outside Man?

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by seagal

Yeah, you're right. "Buddy Buddy" is with Warner, I guess.

But "The Outside Man?

Apparently Gaumont, so hopefully it's in Kino's new Gaumont deal.

[Dailyan]

Coming Soon on 4KUHD!
Brand New HDR Dolby Vision Master!
LEVIATHAN (1989) Starring Peter Weller, Richard Crenna, Amanda Pays, Daniel Stern, Ernie Hudson, Lisa Eilbacher, Hector Elizondo & Meg Foster – Shot by Alex Thomson (Excalibur) – Music by Jerry Goldsmith (First Blood) – Screenplay by David Webb Peoples (Blade Runner) & Jeb Stuart (Die Hard) – Directed by George P. Cosmatos (Rambo: First Blood Part II, Tombstone).

[Savage_Blu]

Nice....already have the Shout blu of LEVIATHAN, but I'll double dip for an o-card

[guccipunkstar]

LETS GOOOOO
I need someone to re-release Timewalker and Velvet Vampire, too

[Rayjg]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Thank you Kino

[BarnDoor]

Update on where we're at with the MGM deal. Firstly, titles announced so far:

[Show spoiler]5 Mr Wong films (1938-1940)

Bwana Devil (1952) 3D
Lonelyhearts (1958)

The Trials of Oscar Wilde (1960)
Kill A Dragon (1967)
The Bride Wore Black (1968)

Mississippi Mermaid (1970)
The Wild Child (1970)
The Taking of Pelham 123 (1974) 4K UHD
The Story of Adele H (1975)
Small Change (1976)
The Man Who Loved Women (1977)
The Green Room (1978)
They Went That-A-Way & That-A-Way (1978)

Dreamchild (1985)
Mata Hari (1985)
Catch the Heat (1987)
Number One With a Bullet (1987)
Programmed to Kill (1987)
Summer Heat (1987)
Some Girls (1988)
The Tenth Man (1988)
Leviathan (1989) 4K UHD

Ronin (1998) 4K UHD

What's left:

1950s x 2 (1958, 1959) (1 New to BD)
1960s x 1 (1965) (Previously released on Blu-ray)
1980s x 10 (1984, 3x1985, 1986, 1987, 2x1988, 2x1989) (4 New to BD - 1986, 1988, 2x1989)
1990s x 3 (1991, 1992, 1994) (2 New to BD)
2000s x 1 (2000) (New to BD)
3 Previously Released KL titles (First time on 4K) 1960s x 1 / 1970s x 1 / 1990s x 1

General Release Info

- 2 remaining new-to-disc titles (in the US) - 1 50s, 1 80s (Cannon)
- No titles previously released on DVD only by Shout Factory
- No more former Twilight Time releases
- No titles formerly released by Olive Films
- No more newly-acquired 4K UHD titles
- No Italian-produced films

Genres/Related

- 1 western
- 1 50s sci-fi or horror

- No noir
- No new-to-Blu 60s teen movies or 60s/70s biker movies
- No animation
- No 'coming of age' films
- No 60s horror
- No new-to-Blu 80s horror
- No 90s erotic thrillers