(2009) Crytek CEO claims Crysis 2 maxes out PS3

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by AikonEnt

Nope, Zooey Deschanel, but there is definitely a likeness between them. Wouldn't say no to either

What I want to know is how well does Crysis run on a £300 off the shelf pc. Compare that to the PS3 version and see what it's like. No point referencing against a pc that costs £3000 (for example) or more because that will probably have video cards in it that cost more than a PS3.

interesting & very valid point you make & i would think the PS3 would give better result to be honest but in terms of the best quality PC vs PS3, the PC version always wins cause of the reason you mentioned of using GPUs that cost more than the PS3

I think we should get a good game but i don't think we'll be seeing the Crysis Max settings graphics from high end PCs this generation but hopefully next generation aboslutely delivers something close as after all, the 1080p standar next gen with 60fps should be the minumum standard achievable IMO & the only difference between games then being how good a develope has managed to utilize the hardware to give better graphics & create more engagaing gaming experiences with that new found power

[Darkhawk9587]

I doubt it maxes out the PS3 to its fullest. I bet it uses a lot of what the PS3 has to offer, but doesn't tap into all its power.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by kotsedriver

Does this count?

that's a good one

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by Darkhawk9587

I doubt it maxes out the PS3 to its fullest. I bet it uses a lot of what the PS3 has to offer, but doesn't tap into all its power.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune can tap about 30% of the Cell Processor's potential, so I'm left wondering what will it be like if Crysis 2 taps about everything that the PS3 has got.

[SpoonMaN]

one thing you have to remember about consoles is they have very limited amounts of memory. the PS3 only has 256MB of video ram and this is a very very limiting issue for high rez textures needed for games to look even ok at full 1080p. i feel that this is the main reason that we will see very few true 1080p games with any real depth. the ps3 really does have quite a bit of cpu power but the limited amount of memory is going to be the main factor as we move along.

[Shin-Ra]

With a fixed hardware spec including standard HDD and an efficient streaming engine like Uncharted's you can pull off plenty with the 256-512MB of memory available.

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

With a fixed hardware spec including standard HDD and an efficient streaming engine like Uncharted's you can pull off plenty with the 256-512MB of memory available.

What he says!

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by SpoonMaN

one thing you have to remember about consoles is they have very limited amounts of memory. the PS3 only has 256MB of video ram and this is a very very limiting issue for high rez textures needed for games to look even ok at full 1080p. i feel that this is the main reason that we will see very few true 1080p games with any real depth. the ps3 really does have quite a bit of cpu power but the limited amount of memory is going to be the main factor as we move along.

The PS3 has 2 types of memory, including 256Mb of very high speed mem, but overall it has literally just as much memory as the 360 (512Mb - print of the OS), just very differently managed.

[SlmShdy1]

Wasn't this posted a couple months ago?

Okay, maybe not months ago but it's already been brought up. Clicky.

[Seeking_Alpha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRWRskYLdno

But doesn't Crysis look unbelievable in Very High? Watch it from 0:25 in HD. It still completely blows me away.

My laptop almost had a heart attack trying to play that video.

IMO though the PS3 version looks better than the 360 version. Killzone 2 didn't have to render as much colors or draw distance.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by SlmShdy1

Wasn't this posted a couple months ago?

Okay, maybe not months ago but it's already been brought up. Clicky.

guess i should have searched better but i'm sure i'll be forgiven

On the case of the memory i concur with Shin-Ra & the 256mb operates at rare high speed of 3.2ghz from what i read which should compensate for the difference in size

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by Seeking_Alpha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRWRskYLdno

But doesn't Crysis look unbelievable in Very High? Watch it from 0:25 in HD. It still completely blows me away.

My laptop almost had a heart attack trying to play that video.

IMO though the PS3 version looks better than the 360 version. Killzone 2 didn't have to render as much colors or draw distance.

Yeah, but I still can't believe that the CryEngine 3 looks suckish compared to the CryEngine 2, due to the engine built for the consoles. I personally think that they should do more work on it, pronto.

[bmr76]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GXgP...e=channel_page

Hope this link works, this guy is awesome. I watch him weekly. He is relentless on ripping on the 360. This came to mind when I saw this thread.

[RiseDarthVader]

Originally Posted by AikonEnt

Nope, Zooey Deschanel, but there is definitely a likeness between them. Wouldn't say no to either

What I want to know is how well does Crysis run on a £300 off the shelf pc. Compare that to the PS3 version and see what it's like. No point referencing against a pc that costs £3000 (for example) or more because that will probably have video cards in it that cost more than a PS3.

You can't do it that way because PCs have to have a OS running in the background that takes up alot of resources. And other factors because of the differences in the design of the PC and PS3. But I think for the next generation whoever gets the 8800GT architecture in their system is going to win the console graphics war if their other components don't bottleneck it. And a budget build PC with a 8800GT could probably run Crysis at settings slightly higher then the consoles at a higher framerate and resolution.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by RiseDarthVader

You can't do it that way because PCs have to have a OS running in the background that takes up alot of resources. And other factors because of the differences in the design of the PC and PS3. But I think for the next generation whoever gets the 8800GT architecture in their system is going to win the console graphics war if their other components don't bottleneck it. And a budget build PC with a 8800GT could probably run Crysis at settings slightly higher then the consoles at a higher framerate and resolution.

i think we'll see a better card than the 8800GT for the next generation of consoles but in Sony's case i would hope that they use the CELL 2 & possibly a very high end or double GPU set up with about 2GB of the same type of high speed ran they have now

Then we may get Crysis (#1) able to play in all it's max settings @ 1080p

we have to remember that the 1080p standard is now going to be here for many years to come & possibly for another two generations so unlike the PC version which goes to 2500x1600 atm with possibly better graphics we may still get very good results if the consoles are coded efficiently right

Theres drawbacks to both but i think developers like to work with fixed hardware as it allows them to easily make games that try to get every ounce of power from it but also like high end PC as the results are spectacular but drawbacks are there for both with consoles having restricted hardware set up in terms of power as newer components for PC release but PCs drawbacks are they suck some resources via operating systems

I prefer simplicity over bugs & compatibility problems anyday hence my preference to consoles but if i only played new games on a high end PC hooked via HDMI on my TV i think i would prefer it

But theres no way i can believe they've maxxed PS3 with most efficient coding & playing Killzone to just reminded me how high the bar is set now graphically for Crysis 2 to actually outdo to prove their claim

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

With a fixed hardware spec including standard HDD and an efficient streaming engine like Uncharted's you can pull off plenty with the 256-512MB of memory available.

Agreed.

Sony said Factor 5 had the best understanding of how to use the PS3. Factor 5 believed they were only close to around 50% of it's power while streaming to both pools of memory. Lair was 1600x1080p. The dragon with rider was 150K polys. A level was 134 million polys. They had a couple thousand soldiers and hundreds of dragons with A.I. They had fluid dynamics going as well as discrete 7.1 LPCM audio (all within two pools of 256MB of RAM). Back then much LESS RAM was actually available to the developers (like around 40MB less than now).

Yep. That 512MB total RAM is enough for a LOT of things WITH a good streaming engine in place.

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by bmr76

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GXgP...e=channel_page

Hope this link works, this guy is awesome. I watch him weekly. He is relentless on ripping on the 360. This came to mind when I saw this thread.

Wow. After watching that video, I thought to myself 'Is he actually spreading the word, or is he just a homeless attention-loving idiot.' Either way, I didn't get it.

[bmr76]

Originally Posted by kotsedriver

Wow. After watching that video, I thought to myself 'Is he actually spreading the word, or is he just a homeless attention-loving idiot.' Either way, I didn't get it.

if you go to his channel his videos usually are pretty right on. He specifically does it on youtube to piss of the xbox guys. You cant take him serious, but he usually has some valid points. He wouldnt even make videos, but xbox guys keep making response videos, so its a never ending cycle. And im sure the attention has gone to his head. He always makes me laugh tho

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by bmr76

if you go to his channel his videos usually are pretty right on. He specifically does it on youtube to piss of the xbox guys. You cant take him serious, but he usually has some valid points. He wouldnt even make videos, but xbox guys keep making response videos, so its a never ending cycle. And im sure the attention has gone to his head. He always makes me laugh tho

Props to the guy, then for making the fanboys pissed. Hopefully, he'll say something about that fat dude from Valve we love to hate...



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