Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince - The Official Thread of Quidditch is Back!!!!

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by Rblu-Dblu

I agree. I do occasionally go back and read the book over after I've seen one of the movies to see what was left out. If the movies tried to be as in depth as the books they would probably be somewhere between 5-8 hours. Most people don't have attention spans that last through 2 hours as it is.

Sometimes I wonder how people who haven't read the books not get confused. Did PoA ever explain the whole "Moody, Wormtail, Prongs, and Padfoot" situation? Last I saw, they simply showed the map but didn't explain its origins at all nor the names associated with it.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Sometimes I wonder how people who haven't read the books not get confused. Did PoA ever explain the whole "Moody, Wormtail, Prongs, and Padfoot" situation? Last I saw, they simply showed the map but didn't explain its origins at all nor the names associated with it.

Correct -- and that meant the "stag" patronus that Harry conjures has no meaning other than some tricky spell in the films, when the whole point was that Harry's father spirit lives within him. I can't believe such an obvious emotional beat was cut from the film. I think it is the greatest adaptation blunder in the entire series. Just mind-boggling.

[bferr1]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Correct -- and that meant the "stag" patronus that Harry conjures has no meaning other than some tricky spell in the films, when the whole point was that Harry's father spirit lives within him. I can't believe such an obvious emotional beat was cut from the film. I think it is the greatest adaptation blunder in the entire series. Just mind-boggling.

I think omitting the part where Lily comes to Snape's defense against James during the Occlumency flashback in OOTP is an even greater blunder.

[Rblu-Dblu]

Originally Posted by bferr1

I think omitting the part where Lily comes to Snape's defense against James during the Occlumency flashback in OOTP is an even greater blunder.

Absolutely. I'd like to see how theyre going to get themselves out of this one!

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by jkwest

all of a sudden Dumbledore is Gandalf...WTH...for reals?!

Almost sprayed Pepsi all over my laptop!

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Rblu-Dblu

Absolutely. I'd like to see how theyre going to get themselves out of this one!

The fact that Lily defended Snape against James is interesting, but it isn't vital to the telling of The Order of the Phoenix. The entire climax of Prisoner Azkaban revolved around Harry's Patronus charm and his discovery that his father's spirit lived within him. That's a pretty big emotional beat to eliminate.

[bferr1]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

The fact that Lily defended Snape against James is interesting, but it isn't vital to the telling of The Order of the Phoenix.

Not vital to Order of the Phoenix, but vital to the entire saga since it

[Show spoiler]casts Snape's motivations in a whole new light and ultimately pays off in Deathly Hallows.

[Rblu-Dblu]

Originally Posted by bferr1

Not vital to Order of the Phoenix, but vital to the entire saga since it

[Show spoiler]casts Snape's motivations in a whole new light and ultimately pays off in Deathly Hallows.

[Show spoiler]Its the most important part of Snape's character. It tells why he hates Potter but then defends him all this time. Explanations are wonderful!

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by bferr1

I think omitting the part where Lily comes to Snape's defense against James during the Occlumency flashback in OOTP is an even greater blunder.

I'd also venture to say

[Show spoiler] having Harry see it via a Shield spell rebounding onto Snape, while practical for time limiting, takes sympathy away from Snape while the book's method of spying into the Penseive shows Harry crossing the line between curiousity and invasion. Still, in both cases it does seem hipocritical of Snape to react the way he did considering how much of Harry's mind he saw.