The Official Definitive Technology Speakers Thread - Page 7 - Blu-ray Forum

AmitG · 06-27-2009, 08:28 AM

I've just upgraded from my BP8Bs /CLR 2002/BP 1.2x/ProSub 100TL to a Mythos STS/Nine/Four set-up a couple of months ago. Sounds absolutely great (though the earlier set-up was very good too - just succumbed to upgraditis)!

msnoopy22 · 07-05-2009, 04:11 PM

I have BP7006, and a C/L/R 2300 center... looking at now upgrading my surrounds. I was thinking of BPX's but the DEFENITIVETECH website reccommends BP1.2X's for my system. THe BP1.2X's are nice but they dont have the piano black finish. I really want all of my speakers to match.

Say I get over the wood finish & go with the 1.2Xs is what is the major difference between the 2 speakers???

Are the BPX's sound that much better to warranty that High of a price tag($499 each)

If I go with the BPX's will they match my BP7006's & my C/L/R 2300??? or will they be too POWERFUL???

zedd_117 · 07-05-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gtmorgan23

I just wanted to say that I think my setup sounds better than a good portion of movie theaters....

AM I CRAZY?

If you are so am I. I can't stand the audio in most of my local theatres anymore. Yes they are lound and the bass is there enough to shake the room, but there is no substance to the sound, you can't pick out the subtle things that you can at home. it's somewhat disappointing after buying a ticket to a movie that you'll probably buy on blu-ray anyways.

zedd_117 · 07-05-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by msnoopy22

I have BP7006, and a C/L/R 2300 center... looking at now upgrading my surrounds. I was thinking of BPX's but the DEFENITIVETECH website reccommends BP1.2X's for my system. THe BP1.2X's are nice but they dont have the piano black finish. I really want all of my speakers to match.

Say I get over the wood finish & go with the 1.2Xs is what is the major difference between the 2 speakers???

Are the BPX's sound that much better to warranty that High of a price tag($499 each)

If I go with the BPX's will they match my BP7006's & my C/L/R 2300??? or will they be too POWERFUL???

You may want to check out a pair of Mythos Gems. They come in Piano Black and the sound amazing! Try to find them at a Best Buy or somewhere that has a pretty good return policy though, you know, in case they don't match well with the rest of your system. Oh, and I believe they retail for around $525 for the pair.

jmquick · 07-10-2009, 08:20 AM

Hi everyone. I am looking for some advice on my next system. I currently own Klipsch reference, but I like the sound of Deftechs sooooo much more!
I can't decide between these two setups. Either 7002 or bp10s for front w/ 2002 center and bp2x for surrounds and cube 1, or mythos st towers w/ mythos 10 center and gem xl's for surrounds. I have auditioned them both and just can't make up my mind. Will be 75% movies/xbox360 and 25% music. Price is not an issue.. What do you think? Will hook up to yamaha 1900 and maybe parasound 5250 eventually.

PitbullMike · 07-10-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jmquick

Hi everyone. I am looking for some advice on my next system. I currently own Klipsch reference, but I like the sound of Deftechs sooooo much more!
I can't decide between these two setups. Either 7002 or bp10s for front w/ 2002 center and bp2x for surrounds and cube 1, or mythos st towers w/ mythos 10 center and gem xl's for surrounds. I have auditioned them both and just can't make up my mind. Will be 75% movies/xbox360 and 25% music. Price is not an issue.. What do you think? Will hook up to yamaha 1900 and maybe parasound 5250 eventually.

Man that almost sounds like my system LOL I love my speakers.Either way it will sound awesome

stevejason · 07-11-2009, 09:07 PM

While I was at my local Magnolia, salivating at the Mythos STS, I also looked at the CLR2300. The sales rep said that while they had it connected to the speaker inputs, it could also be run by cable from the center pre-out. He stated that the Mythos could also be connected in this manner. If this is true, I can see the obvious advantage in the area of cable management, but what are the drawbacks to this set-up?

PitbullMike · 07-12-2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stevejason

While I was at my local Magnolia, salivating at the Mythos STS, I also looked at the CLR2300. The sales rep said that while they had it connected to the speaker inputs, it could also be run by cable from the center pre-out. He stated that the Mythos could also be connected in this manner. If this is true, I can see the obvious advantage in the area of cable management, but what are the drawbacks to this set-up?

Wrong info dude,if you use it only with pre-out only the sub would kick on and not the driver(tweeter/woofers)So only the built in sub would work.

Big Daddy · 07-12-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stevejason

While I was at my local Magnolia, salivating at the Mythos STS, I also looked at the CLR2300. The sales rep said that while they had it connected to the speaker inputs, it could also be run by cable from the center pre-out. He stated that the Mythos could also be connected in this manner. If this is true, I can see the obvious advantage in the area of cable management, but what are the drawbacks to this set-up?

It can work if you also connect the tweeter/midrange with speaker wires. There are no wire management advantages, but the sound may improve.

That is the way I have my vintage super towers connected. They have three speaker wire inputs and a sub input. The speaker inputs are connected with solid jumpers. I connected them according to the following procedure:

I removed the jumpers.
I attached Y cables to the preouts for the fronts on my receiver.
I connected RCA cables from the right and left front pre-outs on my receiver to the sub inputs on the speakers.
The built-in amps run the 15" built-in subwoofers.
I also connected RCA cables to two 2-channel external amplifiers.
From the external amplifiers, I ran speaker wires to the tweeter and midrange speaker inputs.
You can say that my front speakers are tri-amped.

stevejason · 07-12-2009, 12:35 PM

I thought the single cable connection sounded too good to be true. Maybe this was some sort of sales rep humor.

Blu-Dog · 07-12-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jmquick

Hi everyone. I am looking for some advice on my next system. I currently own Klipsch reference, but I like the sound of Deftechs sooooo much more!
I can't decide between these two setups. Either 7002 or bp10s for front w/ 2002 center and bp2x for surrounds and cube 1, or mythos st towers w/ mythos 10 center and gem xl's for surrounds. I have auditioned them both and just can't make up my mind. Will be 75% movies/xbox360 and 25% music. Price is not an issue.. What do you think? Will hook up to yamaha 1900 and maybe parasound 5250 eventually.

Mythos, if price is not a stumbling block. The ST's really can't be touched by most speakers in that price range.

stevejason · 07-14-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stevejason

While I was at my local Magnolia, salivating at the Mythos STS, I also looked at the CLR2300. The sales rep said that while they had it connected to the speaker inputs, it could also be run by cable from the center pre-out. He stated that the Mythos could also be connected in this manner. If this is true, I can see the obvious advantage in the area of cable management, but what are the drawbacks to this set-up?

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Originally Posted by PitbullMike

Wrong info dude,if you use it only with pre-out only the sub would kick on and not the driver(tweeter/woofers)So only the built in sub would work.

I was at the dealership where I purchased my Def-Techs, and brought up this subject. One of the reps stated that the pre-out only connection would work with this particular center channel. He was unsure if the towers would function in this manner.

PitbullMike · 07-14-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevejason

I was at the dealership where I purchased my Def-Techs, and brought up this subject. One of the reps stated that the pre-out only connection would work with this particular center channel. He was unsure if the towers would function in this manner.

I have the c/l/r 2300 I think I would know

stevejason · 07-15-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PitbullMike

I have the c/l/r 2300 I think I would know

This is very confusing. The second guy who said this works, is from an authorized Def-Tech dealership (most of their business is custom installation). In the span of six days I've had two people tell me the same thing. Both make their living based on their knowledge of audio/video systems.

Pitbull, have you ever tried this set-up? I'm not saying you are wrong, or the other guys are wrong. I'm just seeking a definitive (no pun intended) answer.

I just sent an email to Def-Tech about this issue. I'll let you know what they say.

gosawx · 07-15-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stevejason

This is very confusing. The second guy who said this works, is from an authorized Def-Tech dealership (most of their business is custom installation). In the span of six days I've had two people tell me the same thing. Both make their living based on their knowledge of audio/video systems.

Pitbull, have you ever tried this set-up? I'm not saying you are wrong, or the other guys are wrong. I'm just seeking a definitive (no pun intended) answer.

I just sent an email to Def-Tech about this issue. I'll let you know what they say.

Looking at the manuals fo rthe CLR2300/2500 and my CLR3000, they state that the RCA in is only for the powered sub. I have the pre-out center connected, and speaker leads for center out, center set to large...and it sounds stupid good

stevejason · 07-15-2009, 06:49 PM

Chet Pelkowski from Def-Tech answered my email within three hours. He stated that the info provided by the dealer/reps was incorrect. It does indeed need to be connected with speaker wire. He also said that an additional connection from the pre-outs, in theory, provides a cleaner signal to the subwoofer. But in practice, he would not expect to hear any difference in sound quality.

I've made copies of the email to show to the dealer/reps so they won't be passing along any more faulty info on that subject.

PitbullMike · 07-15-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stevejason

Chet Pelkowski from Def-Tech answered my email within three hours. He stated that the info provided by the dealer/reps was incorrect. It does indeed need to be connected with speaker wire. He also said that an additional connection from the pre-outs, in theory, provides a cleaner signal to the subwoofer. But in practice, he would not expect to hear any difference in sound quality.

I've made copies of the email to show to the dealer/reps so they won't be passing along any more faulty info on that subject.

It feels good to be right hehe

BTW Chet is the best they have

aramis109 · 07-20-2009, 07:54 PM

Missed some good Deftech convo while I was on vacation. I think what scares me the most here is that the dealers were giving incorrect info that in reality doesn't even make any sense.

stevejason · 07-21-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

Missed some good Deftech convo while I was on vacation. I think what scares me the most here is that the dealers were giving incorrect info that in reality doesn't even make any sense.

I spoke to the owner of the smaller dealership. He said that the person who gave me the faulty info was primarily involved with the custom installation side of the business. As far as the Magnolia rep, don't know how he made that kind of mistake.

Hey PitbullMike, where did you get the chrome spikes for your speakers?

JENKS · 07-24-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jmquick

Hi everyone. I am looking for some advice on my next system. I currently own Klipsch reference, but I like the sound of Deftechs sooooo much more!
I can't decide between these two setups. Either 7002 or bp10s for front w/ 2002 center and bp2x for surrounds and cube 1, or mythos st towers w/ mythos 10 center and gem xl's for surrounds. I have auditioned them both and just can't make up my mind. Will be 75% movies/xbox360 and 25% music. Price is not an issue.. What do you think? Will hook up to yamaha 1900 and maybe parasound 5250 eventually.

I have the 7002's and they absolutely pound. The whole house shakes and it is 2300 square feet. The bass level is only turned up half way.

07-05-2009, 04:11 PM	#122
msnoopy22 Active Member Member since:Feb 2009	What are the best rear surronds for my system I have BP7006, and a C/L/R 2300 center... looking at now upgrading my surrounds. I was thinking of BPX's but the DEFENITIVETECH website reccommends BP1.2X's for my system. THe BP1.2X's are nice but they dont have the piano black finish. I really want all of my speakers to match. Say I get over the wood finish & go with the 1.2Xs is what is the major difference between the 2 speakers??? Are the BPX's sound that much better to warranty that High of a price tag($499 each) If I go with the BPX's will they match my BP7006's & my C/L/R 2300??? or will they be too POWERFUL???

07-10-2009, 08:20 AM	#125
jmquick Member Member since:Jul 2009	Mythos or bipolar? Hi everyone. I am looking for some advice on my next system. I currently own Klipsch reference, but I like the sound of Deftechs sooooo much more! I can't decide between these two setups. Either 7002 or bp10s for front w/ 2002 center and bp2x for surrounds and cube 1, or mythos st towers w/ mythos 10 center and gem xl's for surrounds. I have auditioned them both and just can't make up my mind. Will be 75% movies/xbox360 and 25% music. Price is not an issue.. What do you think? Will hook up to yamaha 1900 and maybe parasound 5250 eventually.

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06-27-2009, 08:28 AM	#121
AmitG Junior Member Member since:Apr 2009	I've just upgraded from my BP8Bs /CLR 2002/BP 1.2x/ProSub 100TL to a Mythos STS/Nine/Four set-up a couple of months ago. Sounds absolutely great (though the earlier set-up was very good too - just succumbed to upgraditis)!

07-11-2009, 09:07 PM	#127
stevejason Member Member since:Jun 2009	While I was at my local Magnolia, salivating at the Mythos STS, I also looked at the CLR2300. The sales rep said that while they had it connected to the speaker inputs, it could also be run by cable from the center pre-out. He stated that the Mythos could also be connected in this manner. If this is true, I can see the obvious advantage in the area of cable management, but what are the drawbacks to this set-up?

07-12-2009, 12:35 PM	#130
stevejason Member Member since:Jun 2009	I thought the single cable connection sounded too good to be true. Maybe this was some sort of sales rep humor.

07-15-2009, 06:49 PM	#136
stevejason Member Member since:Jun 2009	Chet Pelkowski from Def-Tech answered my email within three hours. He stated that the info provided by the dealer/reps was incorrect. It does indeed need to be connected with speaker wire. He also said that an additional connection from the pre-outs, in theory, provides a cleaner signal to the subwoofer. But in practice, he would not expect to hear any difference in sound quality. I've made copies of the email to show to the dealer/reps so they won't be passing along any more faulty info on that subject.

07-20-2009, 07:54 PM	#138
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Missed some good Deftech convo while I was on vacation. I think what scares me the most here is that the dealers were giving incorrect info that in reality doesn't even make any sense.

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