Dumbo Platinum/Diamond Edition?!

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Dumbo is a perennial - it was among the first animated features shown on Walt's "Disneyland" TV show (Alice was first)It is also a beloved and acclaimed film, I'm not sure what needs to be "avenged" either.
As for The Artistocats, well, it isn't one of the studio's crown jewels...
I don't know what needs to be "avenged" in this case, as the film really has no right to feel "wronged" by anyone.

In Aristocats' case, it is "avenged"--
Namely, Disney trying to work out their frustrations over WHY the Tokyo and Paris parks still gush over Marie the Kitten on a 101 Dalmatians level, while in their hometown, they can't give the movie away for free.
(Probably because Ron Miller-era Phil Harris movies went out with bell-bottom pants.)

...You would not believe what a source of headbanging frustration this is to them, baffling every aspect of their marketing department to "reinvigorate"--
Darnit, it should work, it's supposed to work, it's worked elsewhere, why isn't it working??

Dumbo does not raise the same passions, but after that 2-disk that was supposed to have the New Video Sequel attached, there does seem to be innocent hopes that they've finally "resurrected" the movie from back when it was one of the Five VHS Orphans--
They successfully resurrected Alice, the Three Caballeros, and even Robin Hood out of the Orphanage, and now think that enough kids have also ridden the park ride to have sudden new identification with circus motif and a mute personality-less elephant..
Heck, if "Sword in the Stone" could be the last Orphan to get its "prestige" 2-disk upgrade, there's nowhere left to go but Blu; it's just "Why now?" that's the key question, let alone "Why interrupt the Platinum sequence?".
(Well, okay, there was the Caballeros, but that was also park merchandising, since the characters were going back into Epcot.)

Eric is a passionate fellow. I'm sure he'll be along to explain it all to us in short order. I imagine he's referring to that MiceAge rumour that Fantasyland in WDW is getting a makeover to compete with the Harry Potter land at Universal, and this would include an expanded Dumbo attraction.

(right on time: )
Yeah, we giggle-busted that one, but, like I said, now having these two rumors together at the same time is........kinda creepy.

[SAP12690]

I really wouldnt buy Dumbo again if its released on Blu.... I own the DVD that was released couple years ago "Big Top Edition", and really wouldnt care for a re-release.

[atomik kinder]

I am not sure I believe this. Snow White was last released in Oct 2001, eight years ago. Pinocchio was last released in Oct 1999, nine years ago. Sleeping Beauty was last released Sept 2003, before it was released four years later. Okay that wasn't so long ago. But Dumbo was last released in June 2006, if it comes out this coming spring that would only be about three years. I don't think that matters so much since it isn't considered a Platinum title. Maybe they are releasing it, but I would suspect that it isn't going to get the BD treatment.

[SAP12690]

Originally Posted by atomik kinder

I am not sure I believe this. Snow White was last released in Oct 2001, eight years ago. Pinocchio was last released in Oct 1999, nine years ago. Sleeping Beauty was last released Sept 2003, before it was released four years later. Okay that wasn't so long ago. But Dumbo was last released in June 2006, if it comes out this coming spring that would only be about three years. I don't think that matters so much since it isn't considered a Platinum title. Maybe they are releasing it, but I would suspect that it isn't going to get the BD treatment.

I would like to see Fantasia on Blu Ray considering i have never seen it, neither of them

[little flower]

I also just saw this over at UltimateDisney.

[depooter]

Dumbo is a huge favorite with the crew over at Pixar. I wouldn't be surprised if John Lasseter was behind this change...

[Nutbunnies]

How the **** did this thread go beyond one response? It's only coming out on DVD, like The Jungle Book last year.

Honestly I don't care about Dumbo and won't buy it when it comes out. I really despise Disney. Their pricing is awful.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Nutbunnies

How the **** did this thread go beyond one response? It's only coming out on DVD, like The Jungle Book last year.

Ohh, Platinum!...
D'ohh, forgot about Disney having upped the name status for upgraded 2-disk SD's, and now referring to all their seasonal-prestige Blu-ray+DVD's as "Diamond Editions", as of Snow White--
Well, coulda TOLD us that at the beginning!
(Although, technically, Jungle Book WAS one of the old-school Platinums, and should be showing up on Blu-ray sometime in '13.)

Knew something sounded phony, but I'll still wait to see which "Vault" teaser shows up in October.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Ohh, Platinum!...
D'ohh, forgot about Disney having upped the name status for upgraded 2-disk SD's, and now referring to all their seasonal-prestige Blu-ray+DVD's as "Diamond Editions", as of Snow White--
Well, coulda TOLD us that at the beginning!
(Although, technically, Jungle Book WAS one of the old-school Platinums, and should be showing up on Blu-ray sometime in '13.)

Knew something sounded phony, but I'll still wait to see which "Vault" teaser shows up in October.

Fantasia and Beauty and the Beast are it for 2010, aren't they? Doesn't bother me, I consider Beauty and the Beast to be the best non-Pixar Disney film ever and it should be quite stunning in HD, not to mention the audio.

[Trogdor2010]

I do understand some of your frustrations, but despite there being superior animated films at the time, lets face it, Dumbo was one of the films that kept Disney alive as a movie company, even with initial commercial failures such as Pinnochio and Fantasia, which were better films, didn't help disney, but give it credit, and it was a very good film by it's own.

[Jac0b]

All I want is

Jungle book
Mulan
Aladin

[Blu-man08]

With Snow White being released to BD under the new "Diamond Edition" banner, could it be that all previously released Platinum Edition DVD sets will now be released as Diamond Edition BDs, while those classics that didn't make the cut last time out are now being released as Platinum BDs (Sleeping Beauty, Pinnochio)? Or is it that Disney is trying to tie in to the Dwarfs being diamond miners?

Regardless, I just want more Disney animated material on BD.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Trogdor2010

I do understand some of your frustrations, but despite there being superior animated films at the time, lets face it, Dumbo was one of the films that kept Disney alive as a movie company, even with initial commercial failures such as Pinnochio and Fantasia, which were better films, didn't help disney, but give it credit, and it was a very good film by it's own.

I'm not so sure Dumbo was an inferior movie to Fantasia or Pinocchio or Bambi (or even Snow White). I suppose it depends on a point of view. For technical virtuosity, Fantasia and Pinocchio have ruled the roost for decades. For character animation you'd have to turn to Bambi as the high water mark. Dumbo excels in storytelling and heart. If you take the fabled five Golden Age features, which one do you think Pixar would have made? Is it any surprise, then, that Dumbo is such a favorite by Lasseter?

And just while we're on the subject, there is tremendous character animation in Dumbo. Tytla's work on the bathing scene alone is studied by young animators all over the world. The movie is aces on character animation -- but then you throw in the absurdist animation of Howard Swift and Hicks Lokey in the "Pink Elephants on Parade" sequence and the entire film ascends to a new level.

The debate will rage on for eternity as to which of the Five Golden Age features is the best. Dumbo is a strong contender, and perhaps those who are quick to name Pinocchio or Fantasia should give it another look. I personally think Pinocchio is the best of the five, while Fantasia is my favorite. Dumbo, though, has much in its favor, and if you haven't seen Dumbo in a few years, you should. You might be surprised how much it resembles the Pixar films.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by Nutbunnies

I really despise Disney. Their pricing is awful.

I hear ya on that but what can you do? I was @ Disney last week and noticed they raised their prices by $4 on all parks. So it's $79/park/day. It's outrageous.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Wow, this thread is nuts.

Three Caballeros and Saludos Amigos were re-released as part of Disney's efforts to kill off the long defunct "Gold Collection" line and probably save money on manufacturing two separate discs for the movies by putting them on the same one. Again Eric I don't get why you think the Gran Fiesta Tour has anything to do with the plan of repackaging those old editions that has been happening for awhile now.

Also the BBFC confirmed the trailer. It's coming, even if Disney doesn't say so (like Bay Lake Tower or Star Tours 2), and since Luke doesn't post rumors on the main page of his site I wouldn't doubt this source.

And when was Jungle Book released last year? 2007 wasn't last year last time I checked.

[SAP12690]

first images of blu ray release, looks like its true

[PaulDHolloway]

I would rather they release eithier Beauty and the Beauty, Aladdin or The Lion King before this. But I will be picking this one up anyway.

[sfmarine]

So do we know why they bumped Fantasia? I'm guessing everything will be pushed back with Bumbo coming out after SW.

[jw]

In case you guys missed the pic and its included in the insert of the Snow White movie as well

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[benricci]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ighlight=dumbo