The Hobbit Trilogy 4K UHD Extended & Theatrical (2012-2014)

[Evanos]

I really like the Hobbit films. Too bad the 4K's look like total crap.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Evanos

I really like the Hobbit films. Too bad the 4K's look like total crap.

They don’t look like crap, but they could look better. With that said they look much better than the BDs.

[morphinapg]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

They don’t look like crap, but they could look better. With that said they look much better than the BDs.

I think the 3D is a better upgrade than the 4K, so I'm sticking with those versions going forward (or as long as I'm able)

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by morphinapg

I think the 3D is a better upgrade than the 4K, so I'm sticking with those versions going forward (or as long as I'm able)

I have both and the 3Ds do look really good, but IMHO the UHDs look better.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

They don’t look like crap, but they could look better. With that said they look much better than the BDs.

Apparently that’s not true of the LOTR 4Ks though?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Apparently that’s not true of the LOTR 4Ks though?

It is true. The UHDs do have some DNR with TTT having the most, but they’re still superior to the BDs.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Are the only options the six-disc sets with no extras and the giant 31-disc set?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Are the only options the six-disc sets with no extras and the giant 31-disc set?

So far.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

So far.

Oh, great. And it’s OOP and goes for like $500 .

[vinvanveen]

I am, finally, getting around to watching Five Armies in 4k. I'm less than half and hour in, and --whereas the first two movies look really good-- this looks terrible. Just horrible. Everything looks overexposed--in particular the scenes where the people of Lake Town are gathering on the shore after Lake Town has been destroyed.

I don't want to read 99 pages of discussion on the 4ks of these movies, but what's going on? Is this just me?

[Lope de Aguirre]

Originally Posted by vinvanveen

I am, finally, getting around to watching Five Armies in 4k. I'm less than half and hour in, and --whereas the first two movies look really good-- this looks terrible. Just horrible. Everything looks overexposed--in particular the scenes where the people of Lake Town are gathering on the shore after Lake Town has been destroyed.

I don't want to read 99 pages of discussion on the 4ks of these movies, but what's going on? Is this just me?

I find all 3 remastered Hobbit movies on 4K UHD AND Blu-ray unwatchable.
Yeah 3 may be the worst offender but the oversharpened color tinkered look of them kills these transfers.

Yeah the colors are "more natural" than the fairy tail tints of the original Hobbit color timing but compare the eagles in Unexpected Journey.
In the old color timing the effects blend rather well and look horrible with the oversharpened "natural" colors.

[vinvanveen]

That doesn’t sound like that that’s what I’m talking about.

[KcMsterpce]

IDK, if there are claims that THE HOBBIT didn't do well financially, that's completely erroneous.

I watched the first movie in IMAX with HFR and hated it so much, that I watched Pt.2 at home on blu-ray from a Netflix rental, and never watched the third installment.

I will not make claim that it wasn't successful just because I personally hated it.

Here's a breakdown:
Hobbit 1 - $200 million budget, roughly
Hobbit 2 - $250 million
Hobbit 3 - $250 million.
- Thing is, they were made at the same time, so I'd wager the actual budget of these movies is about half of what the claimed $700 million budget is 'on paper'.
I guess it cost about $300-$350 million to make.

Hobbit Pt.1 - $1,014,938,545
Hobbit Pt.2 - $959,358,436
- Percentage drop in returns vs. first movie: -5% (outstanding box office retention result.)
Hobbit Pt.3 - $940,323,039
- Percentage drop in returns vs. second movie: -2% (unbelievable box office retention result.)
-- Percentage drop in returns vs. first movie: -7% (highly respectable level of retention from first to third movie)

Total box office gross of all three movies: $2,914,620,020

To proclaim that it was a "flop" is a joke.

OK, now that THAT has been settled, let's move on.

[Geoff D]

Given Jackson's way of working then I'd argue that they did cost that much, the post-production is so CG-heavy I'd say they spent $400M on the VFX alone. But yes, they were verr successful in the end.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by vinvanveen

I am, finally, getting around to watching Five Armies in 4k. I'm less than half and hour in, and --whereas the first two movies look really good-- this looks terrible. Just horrible. Everything looks overexposed--in particular the scenes where the people of Lake Town are gathering on the shore after Lake Town has been destroyed.

I don't want to read 99 pages of discussion on the 4ks of these movies, but what's going on? Is this just me?

It's not just you. I really like the colour grading (mostly) but they ladled on so much sharpening in 4K for these movies it's kinda ridiculous. It just about works on the first two but as Five Armies was *already* conspicuously sharpened then adding loads more on top makes it look horrendous.

[Captain Keen]

Interesting to read this. The LOTR 4K are deeply flawed but ultimately I prefer them to the blu-rays, especially Fellowship. But The Hobbit 4Ks are truly unwatchable to me, especially Five Armies.

I also think it’s important to remember that Unexpected Journey has a different look than both sequels. It’s far more colorful and fairy tale looking, while the sequels drain color away and often look more like a Demon’s Souls game.

On pure visuals, I think the 1080 version of Unexpected Journey is a mostly stunning looking film, in 2D or 3D, and I also really don’t like the newly desaturated ‘flashback’ scenes either.

[vinvanveen]

Well, you lot are right. The outdoor scenes in Bot5A look the same in the theatrical and extended versions, and look the same regardless of which player I use. So it's neither a defective disk nor a wonky player; it's the movie.

Therefore, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies gets the Grand Prize for the worst-looking 4k I have ever seen. Congratulations!

[Mierzwiak]

Originally Posted by vinvanveen

Therefore, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies gets the Grand Prize for the worst-looking 4k I have ever seen. Congratulations!

Aliens, T2, True Lies, the first Bourne film, The Wailing and some others are saying "Hold my beer."

[gates70]

Originally Posted by vinvanveen

Well, you lot are right. The outdoor scenes in Bot5A look the same in the theatrical and extended versions, and look the same regardless of which player I use. So it's neither a defective disk nor a wonky player; it's the movie.

Therefore, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies gets the Grand Prize for the worst-looking 4k I have ever seen. Congratulations!

Ever seen? Have you seen a grand total of 5?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Mierzwiak

Aliens, T2, True Lies, the first Bourne film, The Wailing and some others are saying "Hold my beer."

Yeah I guess, but the sharpening on top of sharpening is so extreme on Five Armies' UHD it's tough to watch, I keep reaching for the remote trying to find some way to unf*ck it but there's just nothing I can do. I could sit further back, but it's so harsh that I haven't got the room to go back far enough!