Gladiator (2000)

[banned user105]

Originally Posted by jsub

I dunno about you, but USUALLY, the more money you invest into something, the more EMOTIONALLY invested you become in that thing. Be it a steak dinner, car, house, girlfriend or TV. You shell out big bucks for something, you expect something to show for it.

After the rebate, I will have paid less than $10 for this Bluray. Am I going to waste my time b*tching and moaning about something so menial for weeks on end? Sure, the PQ is not perfect, but its not worth a 100 page thread "discussion".

Thanks for your opinion

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by benricci

I don't follow. What's wrong with getting a couple of opinions on something before you buy?

Do you think that it's even reasonable to expect that one site can have the perfect review of every title, every time? Or that you're going to agree with that opinion every time?

No,i didn't say anything like that.i use 3or4 different places for reviews.if lets say 2or3 of the 4 don;t like the pq,i might rent that title and if i like it and want that title i will buy it.

When it comes to the pq why should we have to put all that effort into it.
Its hi-def why should we have to even worry about that.

I just feel like since the format war ended they don't have to put out there best work anymore.If i remember right during the war blu-ray had more crap titles that first year then hd dvd,then again blu-ray wasn't ready for prime time,but was winning anyways.

[Mokus76]

Originally Posted by benricci

I think you are the only one who doesn't consider Iron Man to have refernece audio. Sorry.

I guess I dont, I honestly dont know what to say, it sure doesnt come close to The Incredible Hulk, Rambo, or Transformers.
Maybe I just dont like IRON MAN, it could be but I dont know

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by benricci

He didn't criticize the PQ at all.

oh my bad sorry

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by Deads3t

Yeah but we all knew that may pages ago.



Price is a variable. I'm willing to accept a few things inherently 'not perfect' if I pay a discounted price. Same goes with scratch and dent furniture.

Why must you pick on someones train of thought? It's their $ and their decision.

Im not judging how you spend your money or anybody else.But that doesn't change the fact that this title doesn't even come close to what we have seen with other great looking blu-rays.If they can go back and make a title like Dr.No look that good,and spend the money to do it,they could have done it here with this title.

17.99 or not its a rip off.

[J.Cornelius]

Originally Posted by jsub

I dunno about you, but USUALLY, the more money you invest into something, the more EMOTIONALLY invested you become in that thing. Be it a steak dinner, car, house, girlfriend or TV. You shell out big bucks for something, you expect something to show for it.

After the rebate, I will have paid less than $10 for this Bluray. Am I going to waste my time b*tching and moaning about something so menial for weeks on end? Sure, the PQ is not perfect, but its not worth a 100 page thread "discussion".

Apparently so!


I think the issue is Paramount promoting the Sapphire Editions as Top of Line and Gladiator clearly did not get that treatment while Braveheart did. I will use an example in your analogy. You go out for that steak dinner order a New York Strip and they serve you a Flank steak. Totally different ball game.

[Gremal]

Originally Posted by J.Cornelius

I think the issue is Paramount promoting the Sapphire Editions as Top of Line and Gladiator clearly did not get that treatment while Braveheart did.

I think this is a false premise. Not all movies are going to look the same. Gladiator had heavy CGI in most scenes and that has an impact on PQ. Braveheart did not have CGI. Do the math.

[Deadset]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

But that doesn't change the fact that this title doesn't even come close to what we have seen with other great looking blu-rays.

It may be time to accept it, get over it and move on.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by Gremal

I think this is a false premise. Not all movies are going to look the same. Gladiator had heavy CGI in most scenes and that has an impact on PQ. Braveheart did not have CGI. Do the math.

Ok,DR.NO,how much cgi was used and why does it look so good.
POTC same question.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by Deads3t

It may be time to accept it, get over it and move on.

You maybe right.Maybe its time to move on to another hobby.

[banned user105]

Originally Posted by Gremal

I think this is a false premise. Not all movies are going to look the same. Gladiator had heavy CGI in most scenes and that has an impact on PQ. Braveheart did not have CGI. Do the math.

Hahahaha are you kidding me? Have you not seen the difference between the theatrical footage and the extended footage?

[J.Cornelius]

Originally Posted by Gremal

I think this is a false premise. Not all movies are going to look the same. Gladiator had heavy CGI in most scenes and that has an impact on PQ. Braveheart did not have CGI. Do the math.

So let me get this straight, if the movie has "Heavy CGI" then the blu-ray requires digital filtering, edge enhancement and DNR. Sorry but that math does not add up guy. Pretty evident from what I have read that an older transfer was used for Gladiator in which these tools were applied and such tools would not be used on new transfers by today's standards.

See the qoute by Mr. Hunt below:



"it's Universal that controls the Gladiator assets for DreamWorks - not Paramount), decided to reuse the digital master of older, sub-par HD transfer. Likely it was state of the art for its day, but obviously it's a far cry from the quality of new HD transfers done today. One of the biggest problems is that until fairly recently, video mastering engineers were still applying edge-enhancement to their digital masters knowing that they were going to be used ultimately for standard-definition DVD release, and also analog VHS and laserdisc. It took the mastering community a long time to break the habit. In this Gladiator transfer, you can see edge-enhancement in the image. It's also clear that the master has been digitally-filtered to reduce the haloing and other artifacts - the signs of DNR are not hard to miss."

[surfdude12]

great review as expected from Martin. 3/5? 2/5? i guess it is all subjective. someone could have made the same conclusions Martin did and give it 2/5. i'll give this another serious look.

[Monkey]

If anybody bought this and feels it isn't worth the $1.. I'll gladly pay you triple that. PM

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by cvm

Gladiator = Pure Awesomeness

I agree

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu...e-series-16141

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Blu-ra...rest_Gump/5043

[robertc88]

Originally Posted by Jimbo976

Isn't a lot of the reason for the abundance of DNR/EE in this case to compensate for the low quality master? If they had a better master they would not have needed it. I don't think it's a case of simply just using EE/DNR for the hell of it.

Me either.

As far as folks saying it is slightly better than the SD DVD DTS ES set, I already have gone back and forth for about the first 40 minutes of the movie (arguably the worst scenes for PQ) using two BD players hooked up to different HDMI ports on my Samsung 40" display and watched about 10 minutes at a time upconverted SD DVD to the BD. No contest! I even used the BD player I felt was better for upconversion than the other while both are pretty close for BD playback quality.

If J6P had watched as well, he would have been patting himself on the back for getting the BD at a good cost versus what he had and has lived with.

And no one should really compare Braveheart to Gladiator, check post 2349.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by king_patrick_7

This has got to be the worst thread in the history of this website

Ya it's getting pretty crazy.

[dahoover]

I am sorry guys, I must be a horrible human being because I bought and enjoyed Gladiator on Blu!

I know it wasn't perfect (Braveheart was pretty much perfect) but it was still perfectly fine. Some people here are making it sound like it is unwatchable but I have watched it twice and I enjoyed it both times!

So enough with all this crap about it being unwatchable and trying to influence others decisions. I will admit it could have been better but it is nowhere near as bad as a lot of people are saying.

[milner828]

Can someone please send me the Cliff notes of whats really going on in this thread...As of right now I see that Mokus has made an a** of himself....

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Gremal

I think this is a false premise. Not all movies are going to look the same. Gladiator had heavy CGI in most scenes and that has an impact on PQ. Braveheart did not have CGI. Do the math.

So thats why all Pixar movies look like crap?