The Batman Part II (2027)

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Same
Man of Tomorrow>> Beyond the Spiderverse>> The Batman 2. It’s going to be an epic year.

The Batman 2 will be a great time. The others? I will catch MoT on streaming, maybe. Zero interest in the Spiderman expansion toy pack.

[moreorless]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

A lot of people say Reeves Batman world is really grounded and you can't do X, Y, Z villain but I swear if you actually got a really great design for the characters and did a great job on any prosthetics and CGI work, you could most definitely introduce a darker Else worlds type Clay Face, Mr Freeze etc.

HELL, I'd say Mr Freeze would work really well and be grounded down for Reeves a good amount to nudge into that side and then continue it onwards to introduce characters like Poison Ivy etc.

My only gripe with the Batman movie as it started is that Bruce Wayne as a character just isn't around properly in the world. He's basically an emo recluse. I wonder if they will find a way for this version to better balance his daytime persona as a playboy and show him trying to once again use that to get info when it's not night and he can't be Batman.

I liked the "shut in" Bruce personally, I think it fit the character and the setting, played up the idea of the distance between the bottom and the top of society.

If you think about it as well the setting around Bruce himself, the batcave, the penthouse, etc are pushed a bit further from reality as well. Gothham has some very realistic elements to it but so elements which are clearly "more" than that.

I actually think the first film already has a bit of a horror element to it, Riddler being almost a slasher character, albeit a smarter one than typical of the genre. I mean its no secret horror works with Batman, the Burton films obviously played it up with the general atmosphere but Batman a detective also works very nicely within.

[joshsquash729]

I mean, the whole point of The Batman was that he was leaning too much into the persona and letting it overtake him and his judgement; he led with vengeance over any other thought/feeling. I have no doubt that, since he learned what the true purpose of Batman is in the eyes of the public, he'll start to lean a bit more off that and into the lighter side of things with Bruce. Kinda like with the church in part 1, there'll be something he'll have an easier time doing as Bruce, and we'll get that growth there.

Regarding Gunn's feelings on this movie- I mean, if he really wanted to can it, wouldn't be have just done so by now? Same if he wanted to try and work it into his DCU- we know he's more than willing to explain how so-and-so got to this new universe. But he clearly made the "elseworld" comment knowing that fans would inevitably ask where it fits in. He supposedly canned a couple other movies in development, so if he really wanted to, he could've canned part II as well, but I think he knows that would be an idiotic move, given the glowing reception of part I.

Also, do we know for sure that Reeves' first draft had Clayface in it? I remember the rumors, of course, but they were never confirmed, and at this point, it seems like it may have just gotten mixed up with the Clayface solo movie. To my knowledge, Reeves has never explicitly stated who the villain was going to be; on the contrary, he's quite expertly avoided giving a concrete answer to anyone.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Same
Man of Tomorrow>> Beyond the Spiderverse>> The Batman 2. It’s going to be an epic year.

Beyond > Secret Wars > The Batman II > MoT

[spider-neil]

The detective parts of The Batman worked wonderfully. The detective part of TDK I found odd and confusing. The scene where they reconstruct the bullet went a little over my head. In The Batman, the clues and the solution were much easier to follow, so it made it more satisfying when Batman worked the clues out. More of that, please, in the sequel.

[Troll2fan]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

Beyond > Secret Wars > The Batman II > MoT

Batman II > MoT > Secret Wars

Zero interest in Beyond and just slightly interested in SW.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

When he showed up as Bruce Wayne, it wasn't done so as a way to upkeep this Playboy persona of Bruce Wayne but he was there actively trying to investigate something he could only do as Bruce Wayne. Funnily enough, even though during the day is when he seems forced to do so as Bruce Wayne, we saw him go to the Iceberg Lounge as Bruce took when he directly went to confront Falcone about the connection to his father.

I still think the best way we ever got to see Batman and Bruce Wayne as two sides of the same coin is in Batman: The Animated Series but live action TDK probably comes close showing it off and there was a moment in BvS.

I just wish for something that seems to make it more organic though.

Bruce Wayne, is that his real self, or is Batman his real persona? As Riddler suggested at the end confrontation before the flood.

Maybe this version of Bruce Wayne isn't worried about how others perceive him when he appears at the funeral or Falcone's lounge club. He seems angry or frustrated to them, but as long as they don't suspect he's Batman, not much else matters IMO.

His riches, we don't really see how they're being spent to help others as his character often would do.

The movie mostly stays focused on his father Tom Wayne, and how corruption seeped its way in to destroy the foundation billion dollar program he set up for orphans. The mob took it over and little of the money ever went to help the orphans, according to Riddler.

Originally Posted by oneway23

Good thing none of the goons tried to shoot him in the face! LOL

His vulnerable point, true.

Originally Posted by Farerb

we're getting a Superman sequel before The Batman Part II. This movie is never going to be made.

Originally Posted by Farerb

I wonder if you would still laugh after you realized this movie is never going to be made.

Filming is scheduled to begin at the start of January 2026 at Warner Bros. Studios Leavesden in England https://variety.com/2025/film/news/t...26-1236481330/, as the last update, so things seem on schedule.

[drb999]

The only villain role I remember being rumored was Mr. Freeze. Never hear anything about Clayface. The hold up with the script was something going on in Reeves’ life.

[Farerb]

On September 20, 2024 Matt Reeves confirmed to Entertainment Weekly that the script was completed:

https://ew.com/matt-reeves-the-batma...lusive-8714200

And then you can even see the editors note that on December 19 2024 James Gunn that the script wasn't done despite what Reeves said before:

Reeves is now gearing up for the next movie sequel. The script is finished, he confirms, and everyone is preparing to start production next year. [Editor's Note, Dec. 19, 2024: After the publication of this article, DC Studios head James Gunn wrote on Threads, "There hasn’t yet been a first draft of a script." Reeves clarifies he's "finishing the script," saying, "We've given big parts of what we've written so far to DC and they know what we're doing."

And then on last July:

Gunn in the recent Rolling Stone interview:



Clearly he was making a dig at Reeves.

He can't just cancel the movie because the first film was a success but he's going to make the experience unbearable until Matt Reeves gets sick of it and leaves.

[Jay Mammoth]

Making stuff up again lol

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Making stuff up again lol

It's all backed up with links and Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone are not some unknown grifter websites

[spider-neil]

Across the Spider-Verse is my favourite CBM of all time so Beyond is far and away my most anticipated movie of 2027.

Second is a toss-up between The Batman II and Secret Wars. At the moment, for me, Secret Wars is number 2 on my list, but if Doomsday sucks, then The Batman II will move to second in my list. My hype for The Batman II is super high because I absolutely loved The Batman, except that awful deleted Joker scene (but it's a deleted scene, so not canon).

Man of Tomorrow is a hard fourth place on my list. I didn't hate Superman 2025, but I didn't exactly love it either.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Farerb

Clearly he was making a dig at Reeves.

He can't just cancel the movie because the first film was a success but he's going to make the experience unbearable until Matt Reeves gets sick of it and leaves.

No offence to Gunn, but I think The Batman is better than every movie Gunn has ever made (and I love the first two Guardians movies). So for me, Reeves is a far better writer. I also loved Let Me In, which is a solid remake of Let the Right One In.

[dyne]

With the timing of everything, IF they wanted to they certainly could change the tone of the next film to fit it into the wider universe. Have a cameo in Peacemaker to get it started. The one character already mentioned Gotham.

[moreorless]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

The detective parts of The Batman worked wonderfully. The detective part of TDK I found odd and confusing. The scene where they reconstruct the bullet went a little over my head. In The Batman, the clues and the solution were much easier to follow, so it made it more satisfying when Batman worked the clues out. More of that, please, in the sequel.

I felt it tapped into that kind of "men doing tasks" drama you associate with someone like Michael Mann, not so much what's being done as how its being done.