Is The Wizard of Oz Screen Aspect Full Screen? - Blu-ray Forum

johnnyblackout22 · 10-04-2009, 02:57 AM

Just curious if that's how it's supposed to be. I have the black bars on the side of the screen.

MattJoseph · 10-04-2009, 02:58 AM

Yes.

DimebagCFH · 10-04-2009, 02:59 AM

yes it is the original aspect ratio

Wdm81 · 10-04-2009, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyblackout22

Just curious if that's how it's supposed to be. I have the black bars on the side of the screen.

It's actually 2.40:1... your TV might be sideways

johnnyblackout22 · 10-04-2009, 03:04 AM

Thanks guys!!!

RocShemp · 10-04-2009, 05:23 AM

Your disc is fine, johnnyblackout22. This movie had a 1.37:1 aspect ratio. So the pillarboxing is normal.

Anthony P · 10-04-2009, 01:24 PM

It is actually academy ratio(1.375), not exactly 4:3 but close to it, it was the standard AR after silent movies, until the time of TV when the cinema industry started worrying that people would just stay home to watch moving pictures and so went wider to differentiate themselves.

ai3rocks57 · 10-04-2009, 01:27 PM

This was probably the first 4:3 movie that the black bars on the right and left sides did not bug me. I remember watching 28 Days Later in FS and I was ready to scream

charlieray1 · 10-04-2009, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ai3rocks57

This was probably the first 4:3 movie that the black bars on the right and left sides did not bug me. I remember watching 28 Days Later in FS and I was ready to scream

There's a big difference: 28 Days Later was shot widescreen, so you were missing huge chunks of the picture.

You watched Oz intact, seeing the complete image as it was filmed.

deangrazy · 10-04-2009, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyblackout22

Just curious if that's how it's supposed to be. I have the black bars on the side of the screen.

Yep the aspect is fullscreen, it looks good too.

Russell_L · 10-04-2009, 04:43 PM

Anyone else notice that the opening credits are windowboxed (i.e., black bars on all 4 sides of the image)? I got worried for a moment but all returned to normal (pillarboxing only) once the credits were over.

I assume WB did it this way to counteract the varying amounts of overscan that might be present on peoples' displays since the text on the credits pretty much fill up the entire frame.

steve_dave · 10-04-2009, 04:56 PM

Opening credits are 1.37:1 proper to retain the correct framing on televisions with overscan. However, after the credits, the film shifts AR slightly to 1.33:1.

Casablanca and The Adventures of Robin Hood have the same effect. Its not a big deal. The difference between 1.37 and 1.33 is about the same as 1.85 and 1.78.

nycomet · 10-04-2009, 06:23 PM

The annoying black bars on the SIDES of the movie on these older titles should have that AWESOME feature we saw on Pinocchio: static artwork on the sides. It is SO EASY for the movie company's to include it as an optional feature.

In the case of Wizard of Oz, I would have liked to see various side panel artwork to match scenes in the film: clouds, poppies, the yellow brick road, the forest, the cornfield... anything but that plain black on the sides.

For the Star Trek Original Series, the enhanced special effects should have shifted to a full presentation, then jump back to the normal view during the non-effects scenes. The shifting aspect ratio was stellar and highly effective in The Dark Knight.

Ironically, it is only the black bars on the sides of the movie that irk me. I have no problem at all with the black bars on the top and bottom on wide screen presentations. I guess I am a freak.

Blu-Malibu2009 · 10-04-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nycomet

Ironically, it is only the black bars on the sides of the movie that irk me. I have no problem at all with the black bars on the top and bottom on wide screen presentations. I guess I am a freak.

I guess you are.

goofystitch · 10-04-2009, 07:36 PM

I don't mind black bars at all, but I do mind when movies are released in the wrong aspect ratio.

sfmarine · 10-04-2009, 07:59 PM

My first experience was Casablanca and then Pinocchio. It's not that big of a deal I mean there's nothing else to see lol.

blugojira · 10-04-2009, 08:58 PM

to those with problems

turn off the lights!

retablo · 10-04-2009, 09:06 PM

Can't wait for the people who champion the 21:9 TVs to become the norm to start complaining that close to half the TV is black screen when watching any movie pre-1954.

blugojira · 10-04-2009, 09:12 PM

i find black bars unnoticeable when watching movies
does everyone have add or somthing?

JJ · 10-04-2009, 09:16 PM

Lights off in my room - I dont see black bars. Love that Kuro.

10-04-2009, 02:57 AM	#1
johnnyblackout22 Active Member Member since:Jul 2008 Blu-ray collection:331 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:2	Is The Wizard of Oz Screen Aspect Full Screen? Just curious if that's how it's supposed to be. I have the black bars on the side of the screen.

10-04-2009, 04:43 PM	#11
Russell_L Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:San Francisco Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:800 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 11	Anyone else notice that the opening credits are windowboxed (i.e., black bars on all 4 sides of the image)? I got worried for a moment but all returned to normal (pillarboxing only) once the credits were over. I assume WB did it this way to counteract the varying amounts of overscan that might be present on peoples' displays since the text on the credits pretty much fill up the entire frame. Last edited by Russell_L; 10-04-2009 at 06:42 PM.

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10-04-2009, 02:58 AM	#2
MattJoseph Member Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:554	Yes.

10-04-2009, 02:59 AM	#3
DimebagCFH Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:35	yes it is the original aspect ratio

10-04-2009, 03:04 AM	#5
johnnyblackout22 Active Member Member since:Jul 2008 Blu-ray collection:331 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:2	Thanks guys!!!

10-04-2009, 05:23 AM	#6
RocShemp Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray reviews:2	Your disc is fine, johnnyblackout22. This movie had a 1.37:1 aspect ratio. So the pillarboxing is normal.

10-04-2009, 01:24 PM	#7
Anthony P Blu-ray Count Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	It is actually academy ratio(1.375), not exactly 4:3 but close to it, it was the standard AR after silent movies, until the time of TV when the cinema industry started worrying that people would just stay home to watch moving pictures and so went wider to differentiate themselves.

10-04-2009, 01:27 PM	#8
ai3rocks57 Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Ohio, USA Blu-ray collection:54 Trading Score:3	This was probably the first 4:3 movie that the black bars on the right and left sides did not bug me. I remember watching 28 Days Later in FS and I was ready to scream

10-04-2009, 04:56 PM	#12
steve_dave Blu-ray Duke Member since:Nov 2008 Trading Score:21	Opening credits are 1.37:1 proper to retain the correct framing on televisions with overscan. However, after the credits, the film shifts AR slightly to 1.33:1. Casablanca and The Adventures of Robin Hood have the same effect. Its not a big deal. The difference between 1.37 and 1.33 is about the same as 1.85 and 1.78.

10-04-2009, 06:23 PM	#13
nycomet Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Long Island, NY, USA ; I enjoy watching 3D blu-rays; 41 Blufans steels so far Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:1344 DVD collection:55 Digital collection:246 Blu-ray reviews:40 Trading Score:343	The annoying black bars on the SIDES of the movie on these older titles should have that AWESOME feature we saw on Pinocchio: static artwork on the sides. It is SO EASY for the movie company's to include it as an optional feature. In the case of Wizard of Oz, I would have liked to see various side panel artwork to match scenes in the film: clouds, poppies, the yellow brick road, the forest, the cornfield... anything but that plain black on the sides. For the Star Trek Original Series, the enhanced special effects should have shifted to a full presentation, then jump back to the normal view during the non-effects scenes. The shifting aspect ratio was stellar and highly effective in The Dark Knight. Ironically, it is only the black bars on the sides of the movie that irk me. I have no problem at all with the black bars on the top and bottom on wide screen presentations. I guess I am a freak.

10-04-2009, 07:36 PM	#15
goofystitch Senior Member Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:488 DVD collection:490 iTunes collection:2	I don't mind black bars at all, but I do mind when movies are released in the wrong aspect ratio.

10-04-2009, 07:59 PM	#16
sfmarine Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Swan Station aDdIcTeD 2 LOST PSN:U5MC51473 Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:930 Blu-ray collection:2311 DVD collection:276 MA collection:461 Digital collection:492 iTunes collection:534 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:43	My first experience was Casablanca and then Pinocchio. It's not that big of a deal I mean there's nothing else to see lol.

10-04-2009, 08:58 PM	#17
blugojira Active Member Member since:May 2009 Location:go away stalker Blu-ray collection:137 Blu-ray reviews: 4	to those with problems turn off the lights!

10-04-2009, 09:06 PM	#18
retablo Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hollywood Blu-ray collection:1307 Trading Score:1	Can't wait for the people who champion the 21:9 TVs to become the norm to start complaining that close to half the TV is black screen when watching any movie pre-1954.

10-04-2009, 09:12 PM	#19
blugojira Active Member Member since:May 2009 Location:go away stalker Blu-ray collection:137 Blu-ray reviews: 4	i find black bars unnoticeable when watching movies does everyone have add or somthing?

10-04-2009, 09:16 PM	#20
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Lights off in my room - I dont see black bars. Love that Kuro.

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