How do I Light up dts and dolby HD? - Blu-ray Forum

BlueOx2k4 · 12-14-2009, 10:57 PM

I am using an hdmi with the samsung 1590 and onkyo 605 but the reciever isnt lighting up on the display...do I need to use optical?

progers13 · 12-14-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOx2k4

I am using an hdmi with the samsung 1590 and onkyo 605 but the reciever isnt lighting up on the display...do I need to use optical?

No, you can only get DTS-HD MA and TrueHD over HDMI or analog outs. Does your blu-ray player have the ability to bitstream over HDMI?

Edit: I'm having trouble finding a manual online for this player. From what I've seen, it looks like it supports decoding of TrueHD but not DTS-HD MA. Have you tried running the audio as PCM over the HDMI to test whether you're getting the lossless audio this way?

phantompwr · 12-14-2009, 11:15 PM

You should check that the blu-ray player is set to output Bitstream and not PCM, also check that your movie is set to play the HD soundtrack. Some of them (especially Warner Blu-rays) default to regular Dolby Digital and you need to change it in the menu.

solarrdadd · 12-14-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by progers13

No, you can only get DTS-HD MA and TrueHD over HDMI or analog outs. Does your blu-ray player have the ability to bitstream over HDMI?
Edit: I'm having trouble finding a manual online for this player. From what I've seen, it looks like it supports decoding of TrueHD but not DTS-HD MA. Have you tried running the audio as PCM over the HDMI to test whether you're getting the lossless audio this way?

from what i have read, yes, it can bitstream HD audio via HDMI.

summo · 12-14-2009, 11:29 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=124819

Read my Topic i made a week ago mate, should give you the info you need.

Steve · 12-14-2009, 11:51 PM

In a nutshell, yes the 605 can decode DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD. You need to connect the blu-ray player with an HDMI cable and set your player to bitstream and make sure the appropriate track is selected when you play a blu-ray. In the receiver's setup menu, you want to also make sure it's set to play DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD when it receives them, and not downconvert to DTS and Dolby Digital. Here is a link to the 605s manual.

http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...6f5f7c337e7c36

Fors* · 12-15-2009, 12:29 PM

fireman is correct, as I had the 605 just like he used to. His post is spot on about how to set up the 605 to display the proper audio track from your player.

I know this may be a silly question, but I have to ask to be sure.......you are trying to play a blu that has a Dolby True HD or DTS-HD track, right?

crackinhedz · 12-15-2009, 09:48 PM

be sure on the Onkyo receiver that HDMI Audio Out = Off.

MrRoy · 12-16-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

be sure on the Onkyo receiver that HDMI Audio Out = Off.

This is extremely important. I had the 605 and couldn't figure it out either. Then I turned off the HDMI audio out and that was the problem.

crackinhedz · 12-16-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by solarrdadd

glad to see it worked out!

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solarrdadd · 12-16-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

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BlueOx2k4 · 12-16-2009, 04:13 AM

ok guyz I figured it out...

there were 3 settings:

~PCM - player does the decoding so no lit up hd logos on the reciever

~Bitstream Re-encode - reencodes and outputs standard dts

~Bitstream Audiophile - outputs audio to be decoded by the reciever (we have hd lights!

The only problem is you cant switch between PCM and Dolby/DTS HD on the movie with out modifying the player settings

Zman2k2 · 12-16-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOx2k4

ok guyz I figured it out...

there were 3 settings:

~PCM - player does the decoding so no lit up hd logos on the reciever

~Bitstream Re-encode - reencodes and outputs standard dts

~Bitstream Audiophile - outputs audio to be decoded by the reciever (we have hd lights!

The only problem is you cant switch between PCM and Dolby/DTS HD on the movie with out modifying the player settings

I wouldn't worry about that. The only difference there is PCM is letting the player decode the HD audio and send it out over HDMI, and Bitstream Audiophile is sending the HD audio out for the receiver to decode. There should be no difference in sound between the two.

phansson · 12-16-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOx2k4

The only problem is you cant switch between PCM and Dolby/DTS HD on the movie with out modifying the player settings

I don't think you need to switch the settings on the player ever. What are you thinking here?

BIslander · 12-16-2009, 03:30 PM

The PCM output includes secondary audio. Bitstream Audiophile does not.

If you you want secondary audio, then it's best to set the output to PCM and you can leave it there. But, of course, lossless won't light up on the AVR.

Also, while the PCM produced by player and receiver decoding will be the same, some AVRs handle post decoding processing differently depending on where the decoding was done.

Zman2k2 · 12-16-2009, 10:47 PM

You're right BIslander. I always forget about secondary audio, because I rarely use it.

BlueOx, he is right though. If you use the commentary tracks often when watching a movie, you'll definitely want to leave the audio selection on PCM. I think that if you bitstream, you lose the menu beeps and clicks as well, during playback. Just something to keep in mind.

solarrdadd · 12-16-2009, 10:53 PM

looks like this one had a happy ending and guess what lots of good learning material here for the future. sometimes it does take a village....

12-14-2009, 10:57 PM	#1
BlueOx2k4 Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Las Vegas,NV	How do I Light up dts and dolby HD? I am using an hdmi with the samsung 1590 and onkyo 605 but the reciever isnt lighting up on the display...do I need to use optical?

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12-14-2009, 11:15 PM	#3
phantompwr Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Cape Cod, MA Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:63	You should check that the blu-ray player is set to output Bitstream and not PCM, also check that your movie is set to play the HD soundtrack. Some of them (especially Warner Blu-rays) default to regular Dolby Digital and you need to change it in the menu.

12-14-2009, 11:29 PM	#5
summo Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Perth, Australia	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=124819 Read my Topic i made a week ago mate, should give you the info you need.

12-14-2009, 11:51 PM	#6
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	In a nutshell, yes the 605 can decode DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD. You need to connect the blu-ray player with an HDMI cable and set your player to bitstream and make sure the appropriate track is selected when you play a blu-ray. In the receiver's setup menu, you want to also make sure it's set to play DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD when it receives them, and not downconvert to DTS and Dolby Digital. Here is a link to the 605s manual. http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...6f5f7c337e7c36

12-15-2009, 12:29 PM	#7
Fors* Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Pottstown, PA Home Theater Gallery:160 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:11	fireman is correct, as I had the 605 just like he used to. His post is spot on about how to set up the 605 to display the proper audio track from your player. I know this may be a silly question, but I have to ask to be sure.......you are trying to play a blu that has a Dolby True HD or DTS-HD track, right?

12-15-2009, 09:48 PM	#8
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	be sure on the Onkyo receiver that HDMI Audio Out = Off.

12-16-2009, 04:13 AM	#12
BlueOx2k4 Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Las Vegas,NV	ok guyz I figured it out... there were 3 settings: ~PCM - player does the decoding so no lit up hd logos on the reciever ~Bitstream Re-encode - reencodes and outputs standard dts ~Bitstream Audiophile - outputs audio to be decoded by the reciever (we have hd lights! The only problem is you cant switch between PCM and Dolby/DTS HD on the movie with out modifying the player settings

12-16-2009, 03:30 PM	#15
BIslander Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Bainbridge Island, WA	The PCM output includes secondary audio. Bitstream Audiophile does not. If you you want secondary audio, then it's best to set the output to PCM and you can leave it there. But, of course, lossless won't light up on the AVR. Also, while the PCM produced by player and receiver decoding will be the same, some AVRs handle post decoding processing differently depending on where the decoding was done.

12-16-2009, 10:47 PM	#16
Zman2k2 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Calgary, Canada Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:136 Trading Score:54	You're right BIslander. I always forget about secondary audio, because I rarely use it. BlueOx, he is right though. If you use the commentary tracks often when watching a movie, you'll definitely want to leave the audio selection on PCM. I think that if you bitstream, you lose the menu beeps and clicks as well, during playback. Just something to keep in mind.

12-16-2009, 10:53 PM	#17
solarrdadd Blu-ray Prince Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Virginia Home Theater Gallery:255 4K collection:209 Blu-ray collection:1344 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 42 Trading Score:316	looks like this one had a happy ending and guess what lots of good learning material here for the future. sometimes it does take a village....

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